Mitch Whyte (WHYTEARK)

I would not do business again with this guy. I tried to purchase a U. milii from him, for him to respond affirming that I could get one, only to later have him email me saying that "Oops, all of them are are now sold". Wasted my time.

Sean, Did you send Mitch a deposit or full payment ?

No, Mario, I did not. No monetary transaction occurred. Nevertheless, he did tell me I could purchase an (he had three posted on the ad) animal, stating he would get back to me, only to then tell me that he sold them all and removed the ad. This was extremely unprofessional, regardless that there was no monetary transaction involved. In that respect, perhaps I would amend my initial statement of "doing business with him", to a different phrase, but that does not change the point.

Originally Posted by Scallahan72

No, Mario, I did not. No monetary transaction occurred. Nevertheless, he did tell me I could purchase an (he had three posted on the ad) animal, stating he would get back to me, only to then tell me that he sold them all and removed the ad. This was extremely unprofessional, regardless that there was no monetary transaction involved. In that respect, perhaps I would amend my initial statement of "doing business with him", to a different phrase, but that does not change the point.

Sean, unless a seller expressly tells you he will hold stock for you (not 'I will get back to you' but 'I will hold these animals for 24 hours', or unless you have placed a deposit or paid in full, there is no obligation for any seller to hold animals for you.
All sorts of people express interest in animals and sometimes even tell sellers that they are going to buy, or as you did, ask for further information, but then walk away. No commitment was made by either side.

In my opinion Mitch did nothing wrong.

Originally Posted by Lucille

In my opinion Mitch did nothing wrong.

I would have to agree. While it is certainly frustrating to miss out on an animal you want, the seller doesn't deserve a negative BOI post in this case. Since these threads are permanent, I hope that those who do a search, will at least give Mitch a chance.

Kathy

Originally Posted by Lucille

Sean, unless a seller expressly tells you he will hold stock for you (not 'I will get back to you' but 'I will hold these animals for 24 hours', or unless you have placed a deposit or paid in full, there is no obligation for any seller to hold animals for you.
All sorts of people express interest in animals and sometimes even tell sellers that they are going to buy, or as you did, ask for further information, but then walk away. No commitment was made by either side.

In my opinion Mitch did nothing wrong.

I completely agree with this, and that would be my opinion also.

Hi thanks for my 1 st bad review in 20 years. Without even contacting me 1st. You contacted me saying that you were “interested” in 1 Female Gecko But that it was dependent on its weight. Never was a deal made. I was out of town and said I would weight them when I got back in town meanwhile someone else bought them and paypaled me in 5 minutes for all 3 no questions. Was I supposed to tell him no. I have to weigh a single one and hope that a caller decides to get one ? Sorry 1st come 1st served. I never promised you anything and at this point I’m glad you didn’t get them or won't order from me again as I wouldn’t sell you cockroach bud Thanks again !!

yes, he seemed to think simply inquiring on an ad saying he may or may not be interested in 1 gecko based on whether or not it meets his weight criteria locks him into a deal and obligates me to hold the geckoes for him at his whim, and that i should suspend all ad inquiries and activity until he makes up his mind on whether to purchase or not. I get tire kickers that do that all the time never to be heard from again, he never asked me nor did i ever offer to hold anything. He basically said he was "Interested" and asked for weights on the geckoes nothing more. Some else called next and just said ill take them and paypaled me right away like its supposed to work.. At that point i contacted him saying they were sold. Then instead of contacting me about his displeasure he e mails me telling me about his lovely post here..

Mitch I'm sorry you got a bad guy post. But the thread does have a small bit of value, I think that after reading it, some sellers may now refuse to sell to the OP or deal with him at all.

A few of my own random thoughts-

We've all missed out on animals that were sold to someone else. Until the buyer says "I'll take it" (and the seller acknowledges), there is no deal, and generally that, in and of itself, does not justify a bad guy thread. If the seller is ignoring the buyer's request for info (extremely common among herp dealers, unfortunately), then chalk it up to poor service and move on. I've missed the boat myself more than once, trying to make a decision while somebody else is sending in their money. Life goes on. There are usually more opportunities to buy herps later.

Regarding:

Originally Posted by WHYTEARK

Some else called next and just said ill take them and paypaled me right away like its supposed to work...

I personally disagree with this statement, which suggests that buyers should be expected not to ask questions. I ask a lot of questions when I am buying herps, just as I might when making any other purchase. However I sometimes detect an attitude of impatience from sellers that suggests they would rather I forgo the questions, and just send the money. This can create a negative atmosphere that, even if a transaction is completed, may lead to later dissatisfaction with the purchase. Nobody has such great animals that I'm not going to ask questions.

Regarding the insulting rant:
If one is going to be in business, then one needs to develop a thick skin. There are going to be upset customers, rightfully and not. No matter how much they may tick you off, losing your cool and insulting them is not the professional choice. For some reason, this type of dialogue between buyers and sellers appears to be fairly common in the herp business, and quite rare almost everyplace else. In most non-herp businesses, a rant like this would have gotten the employee fired, or at least severely reprimanded. Self-employed business owners should hold themselves to a higher standard, not a lesser one. In any event, the OP's mild snarkiness didn't remotely warrant this type of response.