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Old 11-17-2009, 02:44 PM   #41
Smash39
Casey...there is no timetable for deficating...seems like you should know that. Just because a boa does not eat right away does not mean there is a problem...seems like you should know that too.

Jessica...nowhere have I claimed to know more than anyone else. You're comment is unjustified therefore I'll ignore it from here on out.

Jesus...good customer service? After this guy did everything I told him not to do? Not a chance. I told him not to try and feed him and I told him not to handle him...he did both. I'm sorry but that's not my problem if he doesn't listen and doesn't know how to care for a boa properly. Mike never expressed any interest in wanting a refund until a full week after the boa was out of my hands. I'm sorry but I can't give a refund after he has been out of my care for a week.

Mike...Many boas grow at different rates. Example...I have an anery het albino from the same litter as my ghost het albino...the anery is almost twice the size of the ghost but they are both completely healthy and eating and shedding. You're listening to all these other people Mike and that's not doing you any good. Instead of coming on to a website and complaining you should be taking care of your boas, or learning how to.
 
Old 11-17-2009, 02:50 PM   #42
aleria
Mike, could you post every email in regards to this from the first inquiry of purchase to the last contact, including headers in one single post, so we can attempt to get a clear picture of what really was or wasn't requested.
 
Old 11-17-2009, 02:52 PM   #43
Doomtrooper
Zach you are straight up telling lies.. you told me to try and help him shed and try to peel off any loose skin how can I do that without hendeling him ?? you never said not to offer him a meal I figured maybee if he ate he might have some strenght to shed ..your just getting deeper and deeper in your lies just do whats rite and refund me I have done everything you said mist him and soak him and leave him be to shed "any day " the only thing I did do that you siad I should but shouldnt have done was to trust you would be a stand up seller and back your animal You are a discredit to these sites
 
Old 11-17-2009, 02:53 PM   #44
Tigger the Tiger
Of course he didn't ask for a refund, he was going on your word that the boa would be ok and shed. So after a week of "going on your word", the snake got worst, and a hell of a lot worst IMO. Therefore you owe him a refund, and I'm pretty sure alot of people would agree.
 
Old 11-17-2009, 02:59 PM   #45
Doomtrooper
here is the whole thing there is allot left out becouse we talked on the phone quite a bit you have to start at the bottom and work your way up i dont know how to flip it sinces its all replies to an origonal email

Since you're obviously not going to listen to reasoning from me maybe you will from another person. This is a breeder friend of mine who I've spoken to about this boa. He's been breeding for 6-7 years I can't remember exactly but his number is 626-252-4699. If you won't listen to me maybe you'll listen to him. His name is Kevin and he said exactly what I've said. He's a young boa who when in shed is going to wrinkle up quite a bit from time to time. Also to spray him with luke warm to warm water several times a day and provide him a spot to soak in and even place him in the soaking area...and wait. It's not something that happens overnight it takes some time. Since you're going to have him for good you'll see that he'll eventually shed and when he does I know you'll be happy and apologize for coming at me and accusing me of "screwing" you. I'm speechless man because I know there is nothing wrong with him he just needs to shed. It's been 6 days and with the stress of shipping and you trying to feed him I am not surprised he hasn't shed yet. I can't believe I'm getting attacked for selling a healthy snake to someone. This is so bizarre to me. Call Kevin and talk to him. He'll tell you there is nothing to worry about. When you do let me know. If I were you I would hold off on whatever it is you think is going to make sure I'll never "screw" anyone again. Because first of all the snake is very much alive. Second you were worried because he bit you? Dude snakes bite. He never bit me but after you trying to feed him twice and holding him to peel the skin off him I'm sure he stressed more and got mad. No surprise there. And third when he does shed you won't have to go back on yourself and tell everyone how you made a big mistake and that the boa is perfectly fine just like I said from the start. Keep spraying him and his enclosure to keep the humidity up. Get a hygrometer. They sell thermometer/hygrometers for like $10 at wal-mart. That way you can make sure the humidity and temps are right. I don't know what kind of substrate you use but you might try wetting it some. That will help boost the humidity some and keep it up for a while. Again Call Kevin.



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From: mike <tat2mike@optonline.net>
To: Zach Ashwood <zachashwood@yahoo.com>
Sent: Mon, November 16, 2009 9:28:46 PM
Subject: Re: Payment for 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male + shipping

how can I try to help it shed by peeling the loose skin without handeling it ??


----- Original Message ----- From: "Zach Ashwood" <zachashwood@yahoo.com>
To: <tat2mike@optonline.net>
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: Payment for 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male + shipping


So pretty much what i said...stress from you trying to feed not once but twice,and handling which i also suggested not to do,he was eating and pooping and acting normal so health problems are out. He eats the same food my ghost baby eats and she super healthy and ate today so improper diet is out, humidity is out because i have hygrometers to check humidity,that leaves stress,stress from shipping is normal, but trying to feed twice and handling him doesnt help.

mike wrote:
> 
> thanks for the advice I looked up shed ease
> they say the reason for problems shedding is " reptiles suffering from stress, poor health, improper diet, or a
> lack of humidity."
> so much for you shipping me a healthy
> animal Im going to do everything to make sure you dont screw anbody else
> over like your screwing me !!!! what goes around comes around my friend
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From:
> Zach
> Ashwood
> To: mike
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:41
> PM
> Subject: Re: Payment for 2009 Lipstick
> sunglow boa male + shipping
> I am being completely fair and you telling me I'm not does not bother me.
> That's fine that you're going to talk to the credit card company if that's
> what you feel you need to do. But I'm not refunding you any money. I sold you
> a healthy, eating snake. He was 100% outwardly healthy and like I said if I
> thought for any reason he was sick I never would have shipped him. But he
> didn't have any issues besides being wrinkled from needing to shed. That's all
> a person can do. Back to the snake though, you told me you twice tried to feed
> the snake which I actually suggested you not do that, and if you
> thought there was a health issue I don't know why you would be handling the
> snake. That's just extra stress you've caused which can delay shedding even
> more. The sell some stuff at petstores called shed-ease. I would maybe look
> into that. I've never used it because I've never had to but I've heard lots of
> good things about it. But the name calling and cursing at me did not help at
> all, you told me I was not being a "man". To me cursing and name calling is
> childish and not being a "man". Do your thing and I'll do mine. Keep an eye on
> the boa and think about that shed-ease, and stop trying to feed him.
>
>
> From: mike
> <tat2mike@optonline.net> To: Zach Ashwood
> <zachashwood@yahoo.com> Sent: Mon, November 16, 2009 7:35:31
> PM Subject: Re: Payment for
> 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male + shipping 
> I have filed a complaint against you with
> paypal they have recomended I go strait to my credit card company
> and have them the a charge back on my account .. This will cost you
> money !!! either way .. so its not to late to do the rite thing and
> refund me and take back your animal ...be fair zach I was very trusting
> and patient with you
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: Zach
> Ashwood
> To: mike
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:48
> AM
> Subject: Re: Payment for 2009 Lipstick
> sunglow boa male + shipping
> If you go to constrictors.com there is a place on the left side where
> you can click on forums. There's some snake forums. It's not a real big site
> but I snoop around there every once in a while. I know what you mean about
> wanting to see him healthy but this is just something you sometimes come
> across. You said some of the skin came off? Did you feel the open spot on
> him where the skin had come off? If the skin that is peeling is soft then
> you can actually peel some of the skin off to help him. Some people don't
> like peeling the skin off but in my experience as long as the skin is soft
> and comes off smoothly the snake has no problem with it. I don't want to
> scare you but there have been cases of stuck sheds that take until the next
> shed cycle for both to come off. Now I know that it usually means the
> humidity was too low but that's obviously not the case with this guy. So I
> don't think it's stuck I think it's just taking a while. Which is also very
> common. I'll be honest if I thought there was any chance of him having even
> the slightest problem I would have held him but man he never showed any sign
> of any issues. That's why I keep saying to just be patient. I've had enough
> experience with boas to know when there is a problem and he has none. Just
> try not to worry and again stay positive.
> From: mike
> <tat2mike@optonline.net> To: Zach Ashwood
> <zachashwood@yahoo.com> Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009 8:30:44
> PM Subject: Re: Payment for
> 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male + shipping 
> where did you find that thread I know
> when he sheds he will be ok im still nervous im sorry if
> im a pain in the ass I just want him to be healthy and happy he
> is very mellow i just hope he sheds soon and eats for me
> then i will breath lol
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: Zach
> Ashwood
> To: mike
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009
> 9:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Payment for 2009
> Lipstick sunglow boa male + shipping
> Hey Mike. I remembered seeing this thread on constrictors.com and thought it would make you feel a
> little better. It's an albino boa that the guy was worried about. It had
> "loose" looking skin and the guy was worrying about the health of his boa.
> Then his boa shed and he said everything looked just fine after that. My
> honest opinion is that he's just having a hard time shedding. He's
> healthy, alert, and eating, not making any funny breathing noises, and
> flicking his tongue. So his health is fine. I just thought this picture
> might put your mind at ease a little bit.
> From: mike
> <tat2mike@optonline.net> To: Zach Ashwood
> <zachashwood@yahoo.com> Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009 7:24:06
> PM Subject: Re: Payment
> for 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male + shipping 
> Ill probably soak him tomorrow again I
> know im being a worrie but I never bought a $500 snake online
> before lol yeah im a little freaked out !! ill keep you
> informed
> ----- Original Message ----- From: Zach
> Ashwood
> To: mike
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009
> 7:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Payment for 2009
> Lipstick sunglow boa male + shipping
> If he's still moving around and acting normal then there's nothing
> wrong. If he was "cruising around" then I wouldn't worry about it. If
> there was a problem you'd be able to tell in his actions and like I said
> he ate with no problem. That's a very good indication of good health. Oh
> and if some of the skin came off that's also good. I've had to "assist"
> snakes in shedding before but for now just let him chill and do his
> thing. Just try not to worry and think positively. Worrying never helps.
> Keep me posted.
>
>
> From: mike
> <tat2mike@optonline.net> To: Zach Ashwood
> <zachashwood@yahoo.com> Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009
> 6:36:23 PM Subject: Re:
> Payment for 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male + shipping 
> yeah I have a cool whip tub i put
> holes around the sides I let hom out and he was crusing
> around now he is curled up again ill keep you informed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: Zach
> Ashwood
> To: mike
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009
> 7:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Payment for 2009
> Lipstick sunglow boa male + shipping
> There are air holes in the tub he's in right? Keep me
> updated.
> From: mike < tat2mike@optonline.net > To: Zach Ashwood < zachashwood@yahoo.com > Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009
> 4:37:20 PM Subject:
> Re: Payment for 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male +
> shipping 
> I have a lid on him when i took the
> lid of this morning he hung out in there about an hour ill give him
> time im just worried about him I know you will do the rite
> thing im going to let him soak a little longer and ill kep you
> informed
> \
> ----- Original Message ----- From: Zach Ashwood
> To: mike
> Sent: Saturday, November 14,
> 2009 5:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Payment for 2009
> Lipstick sunglow boa male + shipping
> Well from the pictures he doesn't look as bad as I thought but
> yeah just leave him in to soak. Do you have a top on it to keep him
> in there or does he have the choice to soak or not? I was just
> asking becuase some people do both but I always like to give them a
> choice. I'm telling you I've seen lots of baby boas needing to shed
> and look like that. I don't think he's dehydrated though he always
> passed urates and they were perfectly formed. Just hang in there and
> hopefully he'll shed very soon.
>
> Zach
> From: mike
> <tat2mike@optonline.net> To: Zach Ashwood
> <zachashwood@yahoo.com> Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009
> 3:39:42 PM Subject:
> Re: Payment for 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male +
> shipping 
> Zach I soaked him all night
> and he looks so dehydrated I was holding him and a tiny bit of
> skin flaked off his back so I put him back in the water
> hopefuly it will get under the skin and he will let it
> go heres some pics best I could do for now
> ----- Original Message ----- From: Zach Ashwood
> To: mike
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11,
> 2009 4:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Payment for 2009
> Lipstick sunglow boa male + shipping
> Ok if your other snakes do well with sheds then the humidity
> is probably ok. You do have to watch though becuase if the
> humidity is really high they'll shed great but they can form
> health issues if the humidity is too high. That's in extreme cases
> though like if the humidity was always at 90%. In my racks the
> humidity stays between 50%-60% and of course higher when my I
> mist. I don't usually mist though but with babies sometimes it
> makes it easier when you help out with shedding.
>
>
> From: mike
> <tat2mike@optonline.net> To: Zach Ashwood
> <zachashwood@yahoo.com> Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009
> 2:56:43 PM Subject: Re: Payment for 2009
> Lipstick sunglow boa male + shipping 
> I dont realy know the exact
> hmidity my boa any python always shed great I
> keep my sprat botle on top of the cake so its sussualy a
> little warmer the room temperature
> ill just spray him and let him do his thing thanks
> bro
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From:
> Zach Ashwood
> To: mike
> Sent: Wednesday, November
> 11, 2009 3:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Payment for
> 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male + shipping
> You don't need to soak him before he sheds but if you
> really want to you can. I think it would be better though if you
> left him alone and just sprayed him. Make sure the water is warm
> water. Even hot water is ok because after it comes out of the
> bottle in mist form, it's only luke warm. Spraying a boa with
> cold or cool water won't make them happy, it will just stress
> them more. Think about if someone pours cold water on you you
> probably wouldn't be too happy. Just make sure the water is warm
> and keep that humidity up. He'll shed anyday. What's the
> humidity in his tank right now?
>
> From: mike
> <tat2mike@optonline.net> To: Zach Ashwood
> <zachashwood@yahoo.com> Sent: Wed, November 11,
> 2009 1:33:38 PM Subject: Re: Payment for
> 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male + shipping 
> shoukld I sock him now ?? or just
> keep misting him he is crazy wrinkly
> lol
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: Zach Ashwood
> To: mike
> Sent: Tuesday, November
> 10, 2009 11:59 AM
> Subject: Re: Payment for
> 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male + shipping
> As long as you mist him and the humidity stays around
> 50-60% he'll shed fine. If all of his shedding doesn't come
> off put him in a bath with luke warm water for 10-15 minutes
> and it should come right off. It's been a very long time
> though since I've had a boa not shed all the way. I mean it's
> probably been a year or so. I use a rack system and the
> humidity is always around 60% and higher when I mist. I know
> what you mean about looking so wrinkly but every boa is
> different. He's just being a punk and doesn't want to shed is
> all. Once he does he'll look like his normal self.
> From: mike
> <tat2mike@optonline.net> To: Zach Ashwood
> <zachashwood@yahoo.com> Sent: Tue, November 10,
> 2009 10:41:44 AM Subject: Re: Payment for
> 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male + shipping 
> yeah my boa gets a little
> wrinkly he was just realy realy wrinkly
> maybee couse he was cold he is moving aroing and
> in the warm part of the cage will he soak or do I
> need to mist him ??
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From:
> Zach
> Ashwood
> To: mike
> Sent: Tuesday, November
> 10, 2009 11:34 AM
> Subject: Re: Payment
> for 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male + shipping
> That's why I wait right by the door so that even if
> they don't knock or ring the doorbell I still can hear the
> truck. Oh and no UPS does not require anyone to be there
> even shipping overnight. I told you man he's wrinkly because
> he's getting read to shed. Small boas can get very wrinkly
> looking before they shed. Older and larger boas don't but
> younger boas can look like that when they're going to shed.
> I'm glad he got there ok though.
>
> Zach
> From: mike
> <tat2mike@optonline.net> To: Zach Ashwood
> <zachashwood@yahoo.com> Sent: Tue, November 10,
> 2009 9:34:46 AM Subject: Re: Payment
> for 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male +
> shipping 
> he got here the dick ups
> guy didnt even ring the bell you would think
> guaranteed overnite would require a signature
> .. he was outside about 50 mineuts he is pretty
> cold I would say the guts of the box where in the low
> 60's why is he so wrinkly bro ?? he like a
> prune ??
> ----- Original Message ----- From:
> Zach
> Ashwood
> To: mike
> Sent: Monday,
> November 09, 2009 11:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Payment
> for 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male + shipping
> Sounds good. If I were you since he's still going to
> shed I would literately take him out and put him right in
> and leave him for several days at least. Shedding is a
> pretty stressful time and since he's being shipped it's a
> little more stressful. So you'll want to let him just
> relax for a few days.
> From: mike
> < tat2mike@optonline.net > To: Zach Ashwood
> <zachashwood@yahoo.com> Sent: Mon, November
> 9, 2009 9:30:30 PM Subject: Re: Payment
> for 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male +
> shipping 
> like I said your the
> one with the experience I trust your
> opinion ill let you know I have his tank all
> set up and the hot zone is 92 so he can
> get cozey when he gets here
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From:
> Zach
> Ashwood
> To: mike
> Sent: Monday,
> November 09, 2009 10:27 PM
> Subject: Re:
> Payment for 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male +
> shipping
> Actually that's when he was picked up and scanned
> at my house. I think he'll be fine. It was just too hot
> here to ship him with a heat pack. Shippers don't put a
> heat pack in if it's between 65-80. It was 75ish today
> and even late in the day it has been warm. He'll be
> fine. Like I said I've shipped to Michigan when it was
> in the low 40's at night there with no heat pack and the
> boa got there just fine.
> Zach
> From: mike
> <tat2mike@optonline.net> To: Zach Ashwood
> <zachashwood@yahoo.com> Sent: Mon, November
> 9, 2009 9:05:38 PM Subject: Re:
> Payment for 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male +
> shipping 
> he got to the airport at
> 2;05 pm
>
>
> ----- Original Message
> ----- From:
> Zach
> Ashwood
> To: mike
> Sent: Monday,
> November 09, 2009 3:13 PM
> Subject: Re:
> Payment for 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male +
> shipping
> Hey Mike. The sunglow is on the way. I didn't end
> up using a heat pack because it's pretty warm here
> today. When you get him he's going to look wrinkly but
> that's just because he's going to shed very soon. He
> might even shed the day you get him. I would mist him
> with warm water a few times a day until he sheds.
> Thanks again and shoot me a message to make sure he
> gets there ok.
>
> Zach
> From:
> mike <tat2mike@optonline.net> To: Zach Ashwood
> <zachashwood@yahoo.com> Sent: Sun,
> November 8, 2009 8:25:59 PM Subject: Re:
> Payment for 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male +
> shipping 
> great bro its going
> to be warmer here monday night the low will be
> about 48 so i think we be ok on my
> end ill leave it up to you your the
> one with experience
>
> ----- Original Message
> ----- From:
> Zach
> Ashwood
> To: tat2mike@optonline.net
> Sent: Sunday,
> November 08, 2009 9:09 PM
> Subject: Re:
> Payment for 2009 Lipstick sunglow boa male +
> shipping
> Hey Mike. Shipping is all set up for pickup
> tomorrow. You should see him by Tuesday before
> 10:30. I'll probably end up using a heat pack but
> what I'll do is cover part of the little red line
> where the heat pack actually gets the oxygen to make
> heat. That way the box will be warm even when it
> gets to you but so it won't be too hot while he's
> still here. I've done it before with success. Thanks
> and I'll let you know when UPS picks him up.
>
> Zach
> From:
> "tat2mike@optonline.net"
> <tat2mike@optonline.net> To: zach
> ashwood <zachashwood@yahoo.com> Sent: Sat,
> November 7, 2009 2:42:38 PM Subject:
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> shipping
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Old 11-17-2009, 03:00 PM   #46
MikeRusso
Zack,

The buyer complained about this wrinkly snake the day he received it!! You confirmed this already and he has email proof to back it up.. You told him to hang on to it so see how it goes.. That means that YOU are 100% responsible for the animal until the issue is resolved..

That snake is in horrible condition and we ALL know that it would take WAY longer that 5 days to get there.. In my opinion you dumped a sick snake on a guy and now your trying to weasel out of it just like all scammers do..

You know that should have NEVER been shipped out in anything close to that condition.. Shame on you!!

NOW, go ahead and do the right thing here, REFUND 100% of his hard earned money including shipping BOTH ways, then take this sick snake to a good herp vet to get checked out like you should have done BEFORE you decided to dump your problem on someone else!!

~ Mike Russo
 
Old 11-17-2009, 03:05 PM   #47
Doomtrooper
thank you mike !!!!!! and thanks to all the other good people who replied Zach new the snake had issues and he dumped him just like you said now he just emailed me and wants me to call his friend kevin the "boa expert " if Zach is so sure the snake is healthy he should take him back with no problem !!
 
Old 11-17-2009, 03:12 PM   #48
MikeRusso
If this snake was healthy You would not need to call any "Boa Expert" for help.. A FULL REFUND needs to be sent out along with an appology to the buyer and this sick snake NEEDS to be returned to the seller ASAP!!

Zack, I DO NOT know Mike, but if you are worried about his shipping skills I am Fedex Certified to ship snakes and I would be glad to help him ship this snake back to you.. I live about 20 minutes from Mike..

As far as your other excuses you will need to work those out on your own..

~ Mike
 
Old 11-17-2009, 03:17 PM   #49
Smash39
Mike you lectured me on being a good person and doing the right thing and yet you continue to come on here and tell these people lies and I just don't get it. I specifically told you on the phone "do not try and feed him" and you tried not once but twice. And I NEVER EVER told you to peel the skin off the snake. I told you that some people do it...and I told you that I had done it a long time ago...BUT I NEVER TOLD YOU TO DO THAT. That was all on you buddy. I wanted you to call Kevin because you obviously won't listen to reasoning from me so maybe you won't be so stubborn with someone else. And as far as me not taking him back...I told you already you've had him for a week and I know he has not been cared for like I would have cared for him because it's clear you don't know the proper way...I don't want that back in my collection after you've neglected him and done everything I said you shouldn't do.

Mike Russo-Wow don't even know where to start with this one...I guess we'll just go from the top. He asked me why he was wrinkly...doesn't sound like a complaint to me so out the door with that one. No I am not responsible for an animal that was out of my hands for a whole week, no matter what you say that's 100% wrong, so out the door with that. You weren't here to see what the snake looked like when I shipped him so how can you have an opinion that I shipped the snake in horrible condition? Out the door with that one. I assure you he was not even close to that condition when he left my house. As I've stated before he has some wrinkling on his neck and tail...that was all the wrinkling he had when I put him in his shipping box. It was not even close to how wrinkly other boas needing to shed that I've seen. 100% healthy boas. It is not the right thing to refund someone their money after they have not cared properly for an animal and asked for a refund after they realized they should not even have a boa. That's ignorant. And for like the 5th time. When the boa left my house he had eaten 5 days before he was shipped, he was very alert, very responsive and I knew he needed to shed...I knew that because I pay very close attention to all my boas. I don't know what Mike has done in the past week to actually care for this boa but he did not leave my house like that. Period.
 
Old 11-17-2009, 03:20 PM   #50
Tigger the Tiger
Zach, a snake that has stuck shed on him/her that isn't going to come off until the next shed is NOT a healthy snake. Man, just give Doomtrooper a refund.
 

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