holy cow... I was just saying yesterday (after my phone call with Heather) that there are some serious loons floating around this world.
I have no clue where this lady comes off.
1.) Heather emailed me: here's our email dialogue:
heatherblackall@yahoo.com to me
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I have been looking for some caiman lizards. I absolutely fell in love with this species a while back, but have been after some true captive, babies. How long are yours? Do you know the sex yet? How do they do with handling?
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Heather,
They are 12-15" in length. They are no sexable, sorry. They are very calm and very easy to handle.
Take care,
Jordan
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Heather,
They are 12-15" in length. They are no sexable, sorry. They are very calm and very easy to handle.
Take care,
Jordan
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Heather,
They are 12-15" in length. They are no sexable, sorry. They are very calm and very easy to handle.
Take care,
Jordan
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Heather Blackall to me
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Hi Jordan
I appreciate you getting back with me so quickly. I would love to see some photos of some individuals. Preferably the smallest ones that you have. That would truly help me in choosing which I like the best. I may buy more than one. I would also like to chat with you via phone as I do have some additional questions that would be more in depth than an e-mail would require.So please let me know what a good time to call would be. I am in Nashville, TN.
Thanks
Heather
Jordan Russell to Heather
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Heather, just heading out for a run. I should be back in about 2 hours. If that is too late, you can always try me tomorrow. My cell # is 714.931.9903
Take care,
Jordan
2.) she called me while I was out for a run, I called her when I got home.
3.) She asked who bred them, I told her that per my knowledge no one was actually proficient at breeding
Dracaena in the United States, and that all of the animals on the market were from a farm in Peru, I even freely gave her the individual's name. She snapped at me saying that plenty of her friend's breed them (red flag, why are you calling me if your friend's breed them?). She stopped me and asked who else bought animals from that shipment, I told her that I didn't feel comfortable talking about other people. She asked if she said names if I would say yes or no, I told her I wasn't interested in doing that. She went on and on about how she's a scientist, and her recent job opportunity- kudos- that's rad but not pertinent- and was clearly done to validate who she was- particularly after stating "I know everyone in this industry" bold claim.... Anyhow, after her telling me that she wasn't interested in buying a "third hand animal, with unknown genetics, because she wants it for research" I asked her who has successfully reproduced dracaena on a regular basis in the States aside from a zoo, she skirted I asked again, she skirted and I said "ok, well you have a good night" and hung up. I don't need to waste my night on the phone with a loon, who was in my opinion talking out of her arse in a conversation. That was the end of the conversation, and here is this? I didn't realize being
honest makes me a
plague??? harsh words, very harsh words. Excuse me Heather let's see some scientific papers you've written to back up your words? I have bred over 40 species of animals, written numerous articles for Reptiles magazine, been hired by Animal Planet as a guest commentator, owned a retail store at 22 years old from my hard earned money, maintain the highest quality of care I have seen in nearly any collection- and you're calling me a PLAGUE?
Sincerely,
Jordan Russell
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