Wise Reptiles/ are they liars?

This discussion has been going on in another thread(off topic). so lets discuss it here.

This email was sent to me via the kingsnake reply to post system, c wise asked for a donation then later denied sending the email. you can clearly see that it came from c.wise87@yahoo.com the I.P. address originated from their computer in Michigan.

I sent the email to KelliH she looked it over and her opinion was that it was legit, some have said an I.P. address can be altered...some say they are static and are impossible to alter.

Would webslave take a look at the I.P. address and offer an opinion on if it came from their computer or not, also answer if an I.P can be altered. I have always been under the impression that they can not be changed. I ask webslave this because I believe him to have much knowledge on this subject.

Please no guessing... like I think this that or the other, lets hear from some computer wizards with facts not guesses. I will forward the email to knowledgeable people that know what they are doing with computers. I certainly don't.

Please no slamming,bickering or insults. this is an opportunity to learn something.

This is the email it came from.

From:
"c.wise87@yahoo.com" <c.wise87@yahoo.com> [Chat now]
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Add to Contacts
To: cmrcpythons@yahoo.com

Ed, why post a screenshot and NOT the email with headers?

This BS is really getting old........

Ok here is an email that I recevied from Jeff and Christina when this was all taking place.

Fw: Funny....
Fri, March 5, 2010 11:53:17 PMFrom: Christina Wise <c.wise87@yahoo.com> Add to Contacts
To: dean@strictlyexotics.net

Fw: Funny.....eml (6KB)


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Note: Forwarded message is attached.



--- On Sat, 3/6/10, fordgalaxy500@aol.com <fordgalaxy500@aol.com> wrote:

> From: fordgalaxy500@aol.com <fordgalaxy500@aol.com>
> Subject: Funny....
> To: c.wise87@yahoo.com
> Date: Saturday, March 6, 2010, 12:47 AM
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> You told me you won't have anything to do with Ed
> or ppl affiliated with
> him on the phone I try to help someone I know
> and this is how I get
> treated?
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> In a message dated 3/6/2010 12:45:35 A.M. Eastern
> Standard Time,
> cmrcpythons@yahoo.com writes:
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> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> From:
> "c.wise87@yahoo.com"
> <c.wise87@yahoo.com>
> To:
> cmrcpythons@yahoo.com
> Sent: Fri,
> March 5, 2010 1:18:22
> PM
> Subject:
> Message about: RW
> Snow Patty, Red Stripes.
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> *************
> NOTE: This
> message was sent to you via the Kingsnake.com
> Classifieds. If you feel this message is fraudulent
> or abusive please
> forward it to classifieds@pethobbyist.com.
> NOTE:
> DO NOT flag this message as SPAM/JUNK as your ability to
> receive legitimate
> messages from Kingsnake.com Classifieds may be
> compromised
> *************
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> Hey ed I was wondering if you had anything
> to put up for auction for chucks fundraiser. let me
> know...
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> Click on (or
> cut and paste into you browser's
> location window) the URL below to view the
> ad that
> this message is in response to.
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> http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?de=758408&cat=10
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> This
> message was sent by an unregistered or non logged in
> user.
> This person may
> or may not be who they say they are.
> The return address they provide may or
> may not be their correct address.
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> Sent 12:18 PM, Mar 05th, 2010 from
> I.P. Address
> 68.61.46.124/c-68-61-46-124.hsd1.mi.comcast.net
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> Howlin'
> Gale Dragons
> "Quality Not
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Fw: Fw: Message about: RW Snow Patty, Red Stripes.
Fw: Message about: RW Snow Patty, Red Stripes.Friday, March 05, 2010 11:45:34 PMFrom: "Ed Clark" <cmrcpythons@yahoo.com>
To: "Nicole" <fordgalaxy500@aol.com>




----- Forwarded Message ----
From: "c.wise87@yahoo.com" <c.wise87@yahoo.com>
To: cmrcpythons@yahoo.com
Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 1:18:22 PM
Subject: Message about: RW Snow Patty, Red Stripes.

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NOTE: This message was sent to you via the Kingsnake.com Classifieds. If you feel this message is fraudulent or abusive please forward it to classifieds@pethobbyist.com.
NOTE: DO NOT flag this message as SPAM/JUNK as your ability to receive legitimate messages from Kingsnake.com Classifieds may be compromised
*************

Hey ed I was wondering if you had anything to put up for auction for chucks fundraiser. let me know...

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Click on (or cut and paste into you browser's
location window) the URL below to view the ad that
this message is in response to.

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?de=758408&cat=10


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This message was sent by an unregistered or non logged in user.
This person may or may not be who they say they are.
The return address they provide may or may not be their correct address.

Sent 12:18 PM, Mar 05th, 2010 from I.P. Address 68.61.46.124/c-68-61-46-124.hsd1.mi.comcast.net



the funny thing is right there it states that Nicole knows that they do not want anything from anyone affilated with you Ed. She never mentioned to them that you were the one who got the email from them. Why would she not mention that to begin with?

Originally Posted by SPJ

This BS is really getting old........

Tell me about it. I am tired of it. I am trying to help someone out and we get attacked. I am not ending the auctions because I believe this is what they want I am not caving into them. I could careless to what they have to say anymore. I know I didn't send it and I know Jeff didn't send it. So far as I am concerned this is just thread for Ed to redeem himself to Nichole by getting her name off the first page like they did his.

Christina Wise

Is the BOI covering liars now? Or was there some sort of transaction or bad customer service involved here?

If this is about liars, I think there's about to be a LOT of Nicole Norton and Ed Clark bad guy threads posted.

The crap is ridiculous.

Honestly, if I'd made the mistake of sending you an email Ed, I certainly wouldn't want to admit I'd made that mistake.

Do I think they emailed you for support, no. Why would they do it on KS, when they are always on here and know very well you are a member her as well. Did they not solicit people on Fauna, only KS? Doesn't make sense.

As I said before, Jeff and Christina have helped my family tremendously in this time of loss. It's really brightened up my wife a bit to see complete strangers spearhead the campaign they did to help us, along with all the support and generosity from lots of Fauna members. People we've never even shook hands with or spoke on the phone with.

So, to answer your question Ed, No... I don't think they are liars.

And coming from one of the beneficiaries, that says a lot Ed.

Originally Posted by StrictlyExotics

Ed, why post a screenshot and NOT the email with headers?

This is the best I can do, I really have very limited computer skills.

LoL you cant copy and paste?

Originally Posted by Ed Clark

Would webslave take a look at the I.P. address and offer an opinion on if it came from their computer or not, also answer if an I.P can be altered. I have always been under the impression that they can not be changed. I ask webslave this because I believe him to have much knowledge on this subject.

Sorry, but I decline to acquiesce to your request.