Evan Stahl - Sent Me Sick Pine Snakes

Sorry, but maybe I missed it earlier in this thread, but what exactly is Evan's TOS concerning his sales and delivery of live animals to customers? If there is one, did he comply in this instance with his own stated guarantee?

To be blunt, sellers of live animals really can't guarantee the health, either overt or covert, of an animal forever. Many will limit their liability to the point of delivery, and no further. Others are more generous with their guarantees. Everyone should judge who they want to do business with, with this set of details in mind as to what you are willing to accept concerning a safety net of a guarantee. In my opinion, where someone earns the label of "bad guy" is when they blatantly refuse to honor their own word and stated claims. Did this or did this not happen in this case?

Yeah, it sucks when an animal dies unexpectedly. It also sucks when people die unexpectedly. Both happen with a fair amount of frequency without some alleged bad guy being behind it.

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As stated many times over, improper technique was utilized to handle the fact these animals regurgitated. Multiple regurgitation can and do result in gradual organ failure as well as animals wasting away while suffering these complications. Without any type of probiotic or other gut flora restoration medication, the outcome of not allowing such gut flora to grow back naturally was grimly inevitable.

Perhaps they came to the OP with issues and perhaps they did not, due to the timeline of events as they are laid out, there is no definitive way to know without full pathology having been done.

For what it is worth, I have purchased from Evan. I received a Motley Boa and a Golden Knee Chaco Tarantuala last year. I have had no issues with any of the animals. They arrived feeding, alert and free of parasites.