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02-25-2012, 12:21 AM
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This just smells fishy to me...
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02-25-2012, 12:37 AM
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#72
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Originally Posted by TattooLost
This just smells fishy to me...
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The OP or Fluker Farms?
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02-25-2012, 01:31 AM
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#73
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The OP. Just so over the top. And then disappears. *shrug* Maybe I'm just paranoid being around the BOI so long.
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02-25-2012, 04:09 AM
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No, I have not gotten a refund yet. I stand by my original opinion and I still think Flukers is a horrible company. I think it's okay if some of you have a different opinion but I don't think it's okay to treat people like dirt just because they have a different opinion than you do. I decided to stop debating with you because it was pointless. I stated my opinion, posted the evidence, and will leave it up to readers to decide whether to order crickets from Flukers or not. There's no logical reason to keep arguing with people who can't discuss a difference of opinion without becoming abusive.
Fishy? Seriously? What an odd thing to say. I left the thread because some of you can't have a difference of opinion without behaving abusively. It isn't really worth discussing this anymore so I stopped. What's so fishy about my deciding to drop it and move on? Are you implying that I made the whole thing up? I went out and bought or found flesh beetles for no other reason but to make Flukers look bad? Why would I do that? And if someone were weird enough to do something that strange, it seems a bit odd that other people keep saying they got the same beetle larvae (and sac spiders) in their shipments from the same company. Are you implying that they are lying as well or that they are friends of mine coming here to back up my claims? Yeah, I made it all up, my complaint was so fishy. LOL
It's okay to disagree with someone about whether getting beetles in their shipments is a good thing or an outrage but to attack someone the way some of you people do is uncalled for. People should be entitled to have different opinions and if someone like me thinks it is a sign of a sloppy and/or unclean supplier to be shipping out so many flesh beetles you should respect their right to have that opinion and try to refrain from abusive behavior. I respect your right to not think it is a big deal to get these larvae, or spiders, (or whatevers), in cricket shipments. It is all a matter of perspective. One person's tragedy is another person's good fortune. (if you wanted the beetles you'd be thrilled you got a shipment like this). I tried to point that out when I brought up the fact that someone with antique leather furniture might be outraged at something like this but my point fell on deaf ears. At that point I realized it wasn't worth any further arguing so I decided to stop. You have your opinion, I have mine. The world keeps spinning.
People who want flesh beetles will order from Flukers hoping to get some. People who do not want them will avoid Flukers. As far as I am concerned I've done what I needed to do. I put a warning out there. I'm finished with it now.
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02-25-2012, 09:03 AM
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#75
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I am still wondering why the OP has not received a refund when the company said they would give it?
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02-25-2012, 11:01 AM
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I don't recall anyone being "abusive" towards you. I think most people that chimed in here, myself included, thought you were a bit over dramatic about your order and the problems.
I will agree, however, that if you haven't received a refund yet you are definitely due one. I should also point out that, to date, we have heard nothing from Fluker's, so all we have to go by is your word. Given your exaggerated and, in my mind, screaming claims, I'll wait until I see proof before I call them Bad Guys or "avoid like the plague."
Let me make another thing clear as well. I say fishy because, after looking at some of the other posts here, you seem to enjoy digging up dirt on people and posting it in threads about them, though some of it seems to have nothing to do with the thread at all. I'll let others look at that as well and pass judgement. Just making an observation was all I was doing.
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02-25-2012, 12:13 PM
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#77
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I have only posted at Fauna a handful of times, so I am assuming you are referring to how I unmasked a poser in The Reptile Etc...thread. The guy runs around all over the net pretending to be a high ranking military hero when in fact, he was kicked out as a specialist for bad behavior, plus he was charged with fraud for falsifying documents during his domestic abuse case.
I guess if the poser was a buddy of someone's they'd think what I did was "fishy" and hold a grudge against me. That explains your behavior a bit.
You may think what I said about him was unrelated to the thread but a person's habitual lying is relevant when they are taking up for a known scammer, at least in my opinion it is. I think what I said was appropriate. The only thing I did that wasn't appropriate was posting the same info in a different thread. I wanted people to know that the guy was a liar so they wouldn't trust him but I probably should have created a new thread for that and not posted it in that other guy's BIO. It could have derailed the thread.
We are a military family so posers seriously annoy us and I wanted to spread the word about the guy. Some people, like TattooLost, may not care about scumbags who pretend to be military heroes, but some of us in the world care a great deal and would want to know if someone in the herp biz is a poser. To me and people like me, what he did was a big deal and worth telling people about. You can disagree if you want but if that's what you're basing your "fishy" opinion of me on, that says more about you than it does about me.
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02-25-2012, 12:36 PM
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#78
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Sorry, don't know the guy. Just following up on you and discovered the other posts you'd made. Sorry to blow that theory of yours out of the water.
As for my "grudge" against you, I have none. I'm just trying to figure out why the over the top post, trying to get Fluker's shut down, threatening to do everything in your power to shut them off, all because you got one bad shipment? Especially after they seem like they tried to take pretty good care of you.
Also, you never did answer my question. What, in your mind, would have satisfied you that they had cleaned up their act. Did you expect them to send you a new order that was absolutely perfect? Or perhaps a personal tour of the facility? It seems no matter what they did, you would have continued to be irate and unreasonable, and I think they made the right decision to suggest you find another supplier.
BTW, I don't know if anyone else has contacted Fluker's, so I went ahead and shot them an email letting them know about this thread. If they did in fact not send you a refund, shame on them. If they did, and you're lying to save face, shame on you.
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02-25-2012, 01:11 PM
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#79
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I have to agree with the Op on one aspect. That post about her being "fishy" was uncalled for. She may have overblown the situation and been a little overdramatic in her concerns over some beetles. But she also provided proof of her claims. So Tattoo, that statement was def stepping over the line. I know if I provide proof of an accusation on the boi and someone took my character into question I'd be ticked off too. You need to take a step back and think about how you'd react being in her shoes and having ppl question your integrity after you posted pics clearly showing a problem.
And I dont know the Op and have never had any dealings with her in any way. So dont even think about trying to say Im sticking up for a friend. Because I stated earlier, I thought she should have taken the refund and gone to a new supplier....
G kilsby/Killer Chameleons
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02-25-2012, 01:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Killer Chams
I have to agree with the Op on one aspect. That post about her being "fishy" was uncalled for. She may have overblown the situation and been a little overdramatic in her concerns over some beetles. But she also provided proof of her claims. So Tattoo, that statement was def stepping over the line. I know if I provide proof of an accusation on the boi and someone took my character into question I'd be ticked off too. You need to take a step back and think about how you'd react being in her shoes and having ppl question your integrity after you posted pics clearly showing a problem.
And I dont know the Op and have never had any dealings with her in any way. So dont even think about trying to say Im sticking up for a friend. Because I stated earlier, I thought she should have taken the refund and gone to a new supplier....
G kilsby/Killer Chameleons
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No worries there, I get what you're saying. I probably shouldn't have "thought aloud" so to speak, but I did. People asked questions, and she'd given up on responding. Just seemed fishy to me, given her other interactions on here.
I'm still waiting for an answer though, on what Fluker's could have done to satisfy her. I have a feeling the answer is "nothing."
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