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Originally Posted by dahlhouse23
at the White Plains show Sunday. We originally wanted a female enchi breeder but he was already in negotiations with someone about her and respectfully gave him first dibs.
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Originally Posted by bullies&balls
those enchis he was selling, he just got at the cleveland show. They may be awsome healthy snakes, but in his care for less then a few days....... Absolutely no way he knows if they are feeding regular or any other issues. Everyone on here screams about flipping and everyone KNOWS Tim wheels and deals, but this is flipping pure and simple. Make your own assumptions (you know what they say about assuming)
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I'll play along.
I was contacted, by Tim, on Friday evening (1/21). He was getting things ready to leave for White Plains the next morning, and he had seen an I placed regarding animals I would be looking for at the show. He told me he had just picked up a 1300g enchi female; and said if I was interested he would bring her to the show. The discussion/negotiation took place over a period of 2 hrs at the show; as Tim had a steady stream of customers, and I had another matter that required my attention.
I'm not one that gripes about flippers - there are good ones, and bad ones. I was aware from the start that this was a new acquisition; Tim was able to tell me what she was eating (and she ate the first meal I offered because I acknowledged that information); and he asked for feeding info on the snakes that were involved in our trade. I fail to see why some people choose to rail on the fact that Tim flips animals, when he is honest about it. Does he tell every potential customer where his snakes came from, and how long he's had them? Probably not...but I did witness him telling several walkups that he hadn't had the snake they were asking about very long, and he needed to check his information to give them an accurate answer. To me, that says a good deal about how Tim does business - I've purchased from breeders that didn't reveal feeding idiosyncrasies, but a
condemned flipper does? Go figure.
It's all about choice. If one is onboard with only buying directly from breeders, good for them - I would never criticize them for their choice.
By the same token, if a buyer is okay with purchasing from a flipper, middleman, reseller, whatever you want to call them; I don't have a problem with that, either. (I'm obviously willing to do so, so I wouldn't have much of a platform to argue from, lol.) Maybe I'm getting old, or maybe somebody slipped started slipping a healthy dose of
Live and let live into my breakfast cereal, but why do the flipper haters need to jump in to cast a shadow on a group of people talking about transactions they are happy with? At least keep it in context - wait until people are griping, then swoop in with anti-flipper doctrine and convert the victims to the <xxxx>. Bet you could probably get them to wear a t-shirt or hat at the next show