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Old 10-09-2009, 06:12 PM   #1
RedDevil
David and Danielle Dedrick AKA simply_vivid@yahoo.com - Dead Snakes

I made a purchase in the amount of $1,300 with D. Dedrick back in June. All four snakes arrived dead the day after he told me they would arrive. When I opened the box I could immidiately smell that there was something dead inside, and all four snakes had already begun rigamortis. I contacted the seller minutes after their arrival and provided him with my phone number.

He started off by insinuating that I had killed the snakes myself in order to get a refund, and then went on to suggest that I might have gotten the hogs to play dead for the pictures (which they are clearly not). After getting the run around, he proceeded to tell me that I was never offered a live arrival guarantee, and that he might consider giving me hatchlings later in the year.

Hatching time came around, and it didn't look like I was going to get anywhere. Luckily Sam from GBU Enterprises knew about my problem, and when Dedrick tried to purchase snakes from him, he declined and told him he needed to fix our transaction first.

I then received a call from Dedrick, where he apologized and said he thought I was a friend of Justin Mitcham (I had already told him some time ago that I had no affiliation with Justin, but he continued to believe I did) and was "trying to screw him." He went on to say that he would never have called me if it were not for Sam, and that I owe Sam for setting the record straight with him. Eventually we decided that I would purchase an axanthic 66% het albino for $3,000, the $1,300 would be deducted from that price, and we would exchange in person at Daytona.

Neither of us could make it to Daytona, so I offered to drive out there and collect it. He then told me it was no longer for sale, and he sent me a partial refund. I was told that I would receive an additional $700 at a later date.

Not long after, I received an email stating his entire collection was for sale (including the axanthic I wanted), and that I could use the $700 as credit or just get a refund. His list said he had 1.3 extreme albinos for $800, so I inquired about those. He replied saying they were sold pending payment.

He deleted his ad from Fauna a couple of days later, and has made no new ads trying to sell anything or send me any of my refund.

I feel that I remained quite civil throughout the transaction, even after a few comments he made both over the phone and through email that were clearly meant to provoke me. I eventually contacted him to (sarcastically) inquire about his sales, and was told I was being uncivil, and that I should "grow up."

And so here we are now. I have all emails ready to be posted, and I will do so in a few minutes.
 
Old 10-09-2009, 06:28 PM   #2
RedDevil
And here are the emails. The link to my Flickr in one of the emails was to show him all of the dead snakes, but those pictures have since been buried in new uploads. This is a more acurate link (for now, atleast).

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
To: simply_vivid@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 11:38:12 PM
Subject: Hognose


Hey,

I seen your Hognose ad on KS, and was wondering if you could send me some prices for them.

Thanks,
Tommy

Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hognose
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 11:44 PM

make me an offer on the hogs you whant.

D.Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
To: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 9:56:22 PM
Subject: Re: Hognose


Would you take $1300 for the two females (het extreme and normal) and the poss. het snow pair?
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hognose
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 9:59 PM

yes but the 28gram het extreme is on hold pending payment

D.Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
To: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 10:10:29 PM
Subject: Re: Hognose


You mean the one that layed 16 eggs (I'm assuming the 28g was a typo)? Let me know if that pans out. That was actually the main snake I wanted. I can pay cash immidiately if they don't go through.

Thanks,
Tommy
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hognose
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 10:13 PM

sorry thought you were talking about the 28 gram femal
sounds like you are good to go
D.Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hognose
To: "Danielle Dedrick" <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 10:25 PM

Sorry about that, I didn't even realize there was a 28g female for sale. I see the pic now. It's very nice; let me know if they back out.

Is this your PayPal address? I'll be back online tomorrow to make payment.

Thanks,
Tommy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
To: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2009 8:16:15 AM
Subject: Re: Hognose


Also, if I pay today (just need your PayPal address), would you be able to hold off on shipping for about a week? I'll be out of town for about 9 days starting tomorrow.

Sent from my iPhone
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hognose
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 8:30 AM

yes I can hold off on shipping but not the selling of these snakes $1300 pluse add 3% paypale Fee for the two females (100% het albino adult and
>rusty red normal) and the 1.1 adult poss. het snow pair?
, hop you understand... my PayPal address is simply_vivid@yahoo.com where will they shipp (to next day)
D.Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hognose
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 12:17 PM

sorry but I would like to repost the add if you don't whant them

D.Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hognose
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 3:29 PM

Hi, (RedDevil) I thought I new you ,If you would like I can fill you in on whats going on here..I like the red hog pic you posted in the forums a wile back


D.Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
To: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2009 5:36:21 PM
Subject: Re: Hognose


lol How'd you know that was me? I'm purchasing these on the behalf of my brother. Right now I'm paying off Brent for a 'conda het albino male and a few normal girls.

Sorry for the delay. I've been working out of town and emailing from my phone, but I lost service at 9AM today. I'm back home now, and will be sending payment now.

Thanks for the compliment on my Hog. He's been a bit of a pain as far as feeding goes, but he's coming around. Unfortunately I have to sent, but atleast he'll take tuna scented.

-Tommy
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hognose
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 2:20 PM

(lol How'd you know that was me?) enter net, and you called me once. lol...will ship when you like just let me know...

D.Dedrick
I would like to take this opportunity to point out that at this point in time I had never called him, so I'm not sure who he thought I was. This was also the first email I received while I was on vacation.

Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hognose
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 10:15 PM

just checking if you got my last e-mail,,

D.Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hognose
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 12:38 PM

when do you what your hogs shipped

D.Dedrick
I sent the following email from my phone, right after arriving in Florida and beginning my trip home.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
To: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 9:37:03 AM
Subject: Re: Hognose


Sorry, just got back in town.


You can ship them any day to:


**My address was here, but I deleted it for this post***

Sent from my iPhone
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hognose
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 3:01 PM

your hogs are going out tomarrow..........how was the Cruz .
D.Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
To: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Hognose


Awesome. I'll let you know how everything is when they arrive.


What line axanthic are the poss hets? If you don't get albinos and axamthics in your clutch I'll replace the male with a 100% het, and want to make sure they are compatible.

Sent from my iPhone
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hognose
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 11:29 PM

BHB. if I was you,, if you have 100% male you should go that rout........ UPS Tracking Number: 1Z14W5622490991957 Track shipment at UPS.com

D.Dedrick
And here is when everything arrives dead. Note that this is the day after they were supposed to arrive.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hognose
To: "Danielle Dedrick" <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 9:32 AM

How long were these packed up? All four are DOA, and it smells as if they've been dead for awhile.


Call me
**I removed my phone number for this post**

Sent from my iPhone
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Pic
To: "Danielle Dedrick" <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 10:02 AM

Taken with my phone. I'm about to get a real camera to photograph them, though. You can't see it too good (atleast not on my phone), but the females' tubs are all soaked and had very high humidity. The male's tub was dry, though.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hognose
To: "Danielle Dedrick" <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 4:24 PM

I figured it would be quicker to upload all the pics to my flickr. The first pics are of the dead snakes. Everything else is just a bunch of random stuff that you can ignore. I'm still uploading, so they may not all be up when you look.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7388650@N07/

Let me know if you wanted me to go take more.
I think I deleted those pics from Flickr later on, but they are definately buried if they are still up

Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hognose
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 6:47 PM

I sow the pics , no need to ship them back
D.Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hognose
To: "Danielle Dedrick" <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 7:11 PM

Will do. I'll hold onto the bodies a bit longer just incase.

So what are we going to do about this? Is there anything that could replace them?

-Tommy
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hognose
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 7:53 PM

I don't have any hogs that could replace them with. I have been selling off my collection to pay the bills since my layoff. The courier error is certainly unfortunate, I made no live arrival garuntees because there is no way to insure against it. I'm out $40.00 on the shipping and the $38.00 which was the 3% you didn't add to your paypal payment as specifically addressed in our emails . Knowing about the 3% that you didn't pay I sold them to you anyway believing it to be an oversight.also I knocked $200.00 off the lot... I have shipped all over the country for years and this is the first and only DOA. As breeders, we are all aware of the possibility of this happening and it is a risk we take. I have some eggs that are due to hatch out next month. Depending on how the hatch goes I may be able to send you some of them.



UPS and Ship Your Reptiles do not guarantee perishable items or live arrival of shipped animals, no shipping company does.



This is from the ups web site::::



Packages containing live animals must be prepared in accordance with the requirements as specifically stated herein. Packages containing live animals must provide for the basic humane care and safety of the animal during transportation. Any package containing a live animal shall be considered a perishable commodity and will be accepted for transportation solely at the shipper´s risk for any damage or loss arising from the perishable nature of the item. UPS shall not be liable for any special, incidental, or consequential damages.



D.Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hognose
To: "Danielle Dedrick" <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 8:34 PM

I would have no problem accepting an equally valued amount of hatchlings whenevever they are available. Please keep me posted on what you will be hatching.

Thanks,
Tommy
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hognose
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 9:42 PM

could you send me an email I think i blocked you
on aksident lol
D.Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hognose
To: "Danielle Dedrick" <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 12:11 PM

Sure. I never sent any emails after that one, though.

-Tommy
Nearly a month later...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
To: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:46:43 PM
Subject:


Just checking up to see if any Hogs started to pip yet.

Sent from my iPhone
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 12:01 AM

Every thing here has hatched whating on my last 0f 4 from Purple line het albinos to hatch, only 9 eggs it was here first time. I saw you did well on the forums, the pic's you posted. O that pair was dubl het snow, what a whast.

>>>>>I would have no problem accepting an equally valued amount of hatchlings whenevever they are available. Please keep me posted on what you will be hatching.

First of all I made no live arrival guarantees because
> there is no way to insure against it.

2nd. I said,,, this is the olive branch part that I was extending to you Because of your loss... Depending on how the hatch
> goes I may be able to send you some of them.
...... be happy for what you get!!!

P.s don't let Justin scru you to death he is my cuzen so I now, he got me good

And if you ever hatch something mindblowing DON’T show or tell any one untill you have TOTLE control of It, then Trade for the top morphs. Wish some would have told me That.




D.Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:
To: "Danielle Dedrick" <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 4:10 AM

I'm just hoping I don't get stuck with $100 worth of Hogs, while spending over a grand. While you may not have offered me a live arrival guarantee, you never specified that there wasn't one (which is normally how it goes). Had you so much as implied that, I would never have sent you a dime.

-Tommy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re:
To: "Danielle Dedrick" <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 6:22 PM

Any updates?

Sent from my iPhone
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re:
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 7:45 PM

Every thing is almost feeding. the possible hets will not eat on there own they suck. How many het's and albinos do you think you should get for not getting a live arrival guaranty.

And assuming that we are responsible for your lack of planing and not giveing you a live arrival guaranty…. I’m just asking because you said you didn't want to get stuck with 100.00 worth of hogs,after

I generously offered to get something to you for your loss

so please let me now what is fare so you will be happy.


Danielle Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Re:
To: "Danielle Dedrick" <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 7:51 PM

My lack of planning? I don't even know what that is trying to imply.


Let me think about it. I don't want to accidentally ask for too much.


Did you hatch any snows? Just wondering; not expecting anything like that.

Sent from my iPhone
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Re:
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 8:14 PM

you might want to speak up soon I will put the hogs on kingsnak soon.......let me now.


Danielle Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
To: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:19:35 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re:


What exactly did you hatch out? Will you be in Daytona?


If you had something I needed that was worth more than I sent you (such as the snow, or an axanthic poss het albino), I was going to try working out a deal. Such as you send it to a third party, and then I pay you the difference, or we can meet up and exchange cash/snakes in person.

Sent from my iPhone
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re:
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 8:27 PM

you Tell justin to smile like a donut for me lol...

Danielle Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
To: "Danielle Dedrick" <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 8:40 PM

You lost me on that one...

Sent from my iPhone
iPhone touchscreen kind of ruined that first sentence on me. lol

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
To: "Danielle Dedrick" <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 9:10 PM

It you aren't interested in ghat deal, so I'd like a female albino and normal from the DH snow clutch.


If you change your mind I'd be interested in adding cash and getting an axanthic poss het albino of either sex, or maybe a snow (male only).

Sent from my iPhone
It was around this time that I contacted Sam from GBU Enterprises asking about a triple het (PPA Axanthic Hypo) pair of Hognose snakes he was going to be hatching next year. During our conversation we ended up talking about my deal with Mr. Dedrick. Well a few days later Dedrick calls Sam looking to buy some Hogs. Sam tells him he will not sell until he gets things right with me, so Dedrick calls me up, apologizes for everything, and says he thought I was one of Justin's friends trying to screw him around. We then worked out a deal that I would purchase the axanthic 66% het albino male he hatched out for $3,000, and that the $1,300 I spent would be used as credit. We were going to meet up at Daytona and exchange in person.

Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: EX-Red 100% het Albino pic's weight
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 8:05 PM

she is 147.5 grams eating F/T I'm thinking about selling or trading ,what do you think I should ask for her?
D.Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
To: "Danielle Dedrick" <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 8:08 PM

Looks like I won't be able to make it to Daytona. I do have the cash, though, so maybe when you guys are passing through we can meet up somewhere and exchange.


Our shop with my hogs is right off of I12, so if you happen to be on that road you can stop by and see the little that I have in right now. Lol

Sent from my iPhone
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benacso
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: EX-Red 100% het Albino pic's weight
To: "Danielle Dedrick" <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 8:16 PM

She's pretty nice! No clue what an extreme red het albino breeder would sell for. I payed around $500-600 for my normal hets if that helps any. I'd have to guess $800-900 since the extreme hets are usually about 50% more in price than a normal het.


I'd make an offer, but right now I'm paying off another group of Hogs.


1.1 albino
2.2 het albino
0.2 normal


All breeders, and the normals are 300-500 grams. The seller wouldn't be too happy if they found out I "bought" that axanthic in full while still paying him off, but it's not like I have much of a choice. Get it now, or risk shipping again.


Feel free to cool her and send her over for my extreme male, though! Lol

Sent from my iPhone
We talked over the phone sometime after that, and he told me that he was no longer going to Daytona, and that the axanthic male was no longer for sale

Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: EX-Red 100% het Albino pic's weight
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 12:40 AM

I'm getting out of snakes want some lol, you still have 700.00 credit or i will pay you after I sell my colection

1.0 Anry 66% snow f/t pinky 2009

1.0 albino 66% snow f/t pinky 2009

0.3 66% snow pinky pump the bigest one eats hot dog sent f/t 2009

1.0 66% snow hot dog sent f/t 2009

2.0 Purple Line Extreme het albino sub adult 2008

1.3 Extreme red albinos f/t pinky 2009

6.0 09 Extreme Sulfer Lav's f/t 2009

0.5 09 Extreme Sulfer Lav's f/t 2009

1.0 adult dad brooks breading this year 2008

0.1 adult mom brooks first breading this year
2008

0.1 Creemmyy Normal adult hog first year- dudes 2008

0.1 Extreme Red Het albino Purple Line adult femal 147.5 g 2008 not been bread yet
below is link to pics


http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ALE/?start=all


D.Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
To: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 6:53:05 AM
Subject: Re: EX-Red 100% het Albino pic's weight


Now you want to sell the anery... Lol


Shoot over some prices and we'll see.

Sent from my iPhone
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: EX-Red 100% het Albino pic's weight
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 2:21 PM

I will consider any REASONABLE offers on the group, (Group offers will take priority until 8am central Monday 8/17/09, so if you are interested in the whole group make an offer!) This e-mail is going out to 70+ contacts that have requested this list, so I appologize if this email is not covering your specific question, or addressing purchase of individual snakes.Thanks for your patience! I'm answering e-mails as fast as I can. The collection asking price is $10K. If no reasonable offers are recieved by Monday morning snakes will be sold individually or in small groups per request. I look forward to hearing your offers.

1.0 Anry 66% snow f/t pinky 2009 $3k

1.0 albino 66% snow f/t pinky 2009 $2k

0.3 66% snow pinky pump the bigest one eats hot dog sent f/t 2009 $250.00

1.0 66% snow hot dog sent f/t 2009 $100.00

2.0 Purple Line Extreme het albino sub adult 2008 $600.00

1.3 Extreme red albinos f/t pinky 2009 $800.00

6.0 09 Extreme Sulfer Lav's f/t 2009 $600.00

0.5 09 Extreme Sulfer Lav's f/t 2009 $600.00

1.0 adult dad brooks breading this year 2008 $100.00

0.1 adult mom brooks first breading this year $150.00
2008

0.1 Creammmy Normal adult hog first year- duds 2008 $300.00

0.1 Extreme Red Het albino Purple Line adult femal 147.5 g 2008 not been bread yet
below is link to pics $1.500.00


http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ALE/?start=all

D.Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
To: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 3:45:17 PM
Subject: Re: EX-Red 100% het Albino pic's weight

Are the prices listed group prices or individual?
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: EX-Red 100% het Albino pic's weight
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 12:34 AM

group prices

D.Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
To: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:14:29 AM
Subject: Re: EX-Red 100% het Albino pic's weight


Well, if you will guarantee live arrival, I'll take the extreme red group.

Sent from my iPhone
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: EX-Red 100% het Albino pic's weight
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 10:25 PM

Sorry, sale is pending, but thank for your interest.

D.Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: EX-Red 100% het Albino pic's weight
To: "Danielle Dedrick" <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 11:07 AM

That's fine. I'll just take the refund then.

Sent from my iPhone
His ad here on Fauna was deleted soon after this, and never reposted anywhere

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: EX-Red 100% het Albino pic's weight
To: "Danielle Dedrick" <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 12:14 PM

So how are the sales going?


Thanks,
Tommy

Sent from my iPhone
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: EX-Red 100% het Albino pic's weight
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 10:34 AM

crappy..lol

D.Dedrick
Naturally I did not find it quite as funny as he did, but chose to ignore it for the time being

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
To: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 12:03:22 PM
Subject: Re: EX-Red 100% het Albino pic's weight


So did those extremes sell? If not I'd still be open to taking them as the remainder of the payment (and I'd throw in the extra $100 after they arrived). If they did sell, then I'd appreciate the remainder of my money since that lot easily covers it.


Thanks,
Tommy

Sent from my iPhone
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: EX-Red 100% het Albino pic's weight
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 11:26 PM

I discounted all the snakes for a group sale exsept 3 main hogs, The prices will go up if now one gets the group.

D.Dedrick
I apparently misunderstood his pricing. I thought he only wanted $800 if you took all of the albinos, but he was only charging $800 if you took the entire collection. Now I know better

I let a little more time go by in hopes that he would relist the ad so I could be refunded. When he made no further attempts to sell the collection, I got a bit annoyed and sent a sarcastic email.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: EX-Red 100% het Albino pic's weight
To: "Danielle Dedrick" <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 2:27 PM

Are you going to atleast put some ads up? I'm no business expert or anything, but I think people knowing they are for sale might help your sales a bit.

Thanks,
Tommy
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: very Quit
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 10:27 AM

Just got my computer back, fixed now,I thought I was going to Die with out the Internet. checked my e-mails ,I am so happy, and look a smart ASS e-mail,from you , lol. I thought it was very Quit..... a word to the wise! honey will get you further then vinegar will.

D.Dedrick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
To: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:01:48 AM
Subject: Re: very Quit


Really? Because I've been more than patient so far, and it hasn't gotten me very far..


You want honey? Let's see how much 'honey' you get when it goes to the BOI. I'm tired of the games. I'll give you another 30 days, and that's it.


Thanks,
Tommy

Sent from my iPhone
Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Dedrick
From: Danielle Dedrick <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: very Quit
To: "Tommy Benasco" <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 11:52 AM



lol, here is the link to the BOI,((WHY STOP THERE,Hell call your attorney wile your at it. lol)) I have all your e-mails, and the ones that you try ed to break up. (In Order).
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...splay.php?f=13 when you become more civil with your e-mails,we will resume communications. if some one owes you a dollar, you can't expect them to pay you back with there house because that is the only thing you need for your collection lol. GROW UP. .((( RETAIL PRICES))) not LOW BALL OFFERS.



D.Dedrick
When messages get too long, my phone asks if I would like to download the entire message. I always choose not to in order to keep the email sizes smaller. Apparently he took this as an attempt to hide our past emails. Either that or the couple of times I replied to an old email on accident because I could not find the most recent ones. Sometimes Yahoo will find old emails and searches but not new, so I just choose the newest one the search finds.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Benasco
From: Tommy Benasco <xboxskin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: very Quit
To: "Danielle Dedrick" <simply_vivid@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 12:22 PM

Tried to break up? That's funny.


No uncivil emails or lowball offers here. Had your ad not stated $800, I'd have never offered that.


Don't worry, I have every email from both of us, and I'm glad you do too. Feel free to do me the favor of posting them. No need to wait 30 days for the thread if you don't want to.


Thanks,
Tommy
 
Old 10-09-2009, 07:49 PM   #3
HyderHouseHerps
That is sad for the snakes
I don't think I'd buy from someone that can't spell "want".
 
Old 10-09-2009, 08:49 PM   #4
critical bill
No live arrival guarantee means no live arrival guarantee. If the terms are not available for you to read and clearly understand - its on you to ask about it and clarify it. Then you have to get it in writing, and even then you still have to hope that the seller will actually stand behind his terms of sale.

I feel for you - but you got a partial refund which a whole lot more than most get in such similar circumstances.

Crap game.
 
Old 10-09-2009, 08:59 PM   #5
spyder79
i agree. live arrival garuntee and TOS should have been requested and at least brought up. I would be happy that i got the 700 and drop it. Chock this up to a learning experience. Always ask about TOS
 
Old 10-09-2009, 08:59 PM   #6
RedDevil
Quote:
Originally Posted by critical bill View Post
No live arrival guarantee means no live arrival guarantee. If the terms are not available for you to read and clearly understand - its on you to ask about it and clarify it. Then you have to get it in writing, and even then you still have to hope that the seller will actually stand behind his terms of sale.

I feel for you - but you got a partial refund which a whole lot more than most get in such similar circumstances.

Crap game.

I completely agree; I should have made sure before exchanging money. I'm beyond expecting anything from them. Just putting it out there as a warning.

Especially since the snakes were already starting to smell and become hardened by the time they arrived. These are my first DOAs, but I still find it kind of odd that they would begin to decompose from an overnight trip from Texas to Louisiana.
 
Old 10-09-2009, 09:00 PM   #7
spyder79
if the heat was extreme enough (which if its hot outside it is 10 times hotter inside one of those trucks) it can greatly speed up decomposition. so it is quite possible they died during shipping and began rotting due to heat.
 
Old 10-09-2009, 09:32 PM   #8
critical bill
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedDevil View Post
These are my first DOAs, but I still find it kind of odd that they would begin to decompose from an overnight trip from Texas to Louisiana.
Is it possible he shipped you dead snakes? Sure, though I'd not like to think so ugly of people that would do such. But has it been done? I;d have to say yes.

Is it possible that due to his layoff that the animals were in less than healthy condition and the slightest stress enough to do them in? Absolutely.

But that's another thing to seriously consider before entering into a transaction. Reputation.

And why is the person selling the animal to begin with? Its a fair question to ask. If the person says: "I'm unemployed and need the money to pay bills", what do you think the chances are that he is feeding his animals in front of himself? Not very good.

Thank you for the warning and I do hope you have much better success on your next deal(s).
 
Old 10-09-2009, 11:11 PM   #9
mvite
I can say that Tommy Benasco is one of the most honorable people I've dealt with.

I've had several transactions with Tommy and he's always exceeded my expectations of him as a buyer.

This Dedrick family is scum.

Whoever buys those snakes that they are trying to unload could suffer the same fate as the OP here.

BUYER BEWARE--

(Dedricks seem easy to spot by their "unique advertising techniques")
 
Old 10-10-2009, 04:44 AM   #10
ForkedTung
The UPS delivered a day late, so the seller should have recouped that loss. I believe it is against PayPal's terms for him to charge you their 3% in addition to sale price, so it's interesting that he expects you to follow his invisible TOS when he's clearly not following PayPal's.
Regardless, He said he would make it right and didn't, his word is not to be trusted.
"NO live arrival guarantee" = run like HELL.
 

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