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03-18-2002, 09:20 AM
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Neil, exactly what insulting or disparaging thing did I say to deserve this?
"I suppose KenyanBoa "guy" throws his untensils away after every meal?? I mean, heck...why should you use the same fork for a totally different dinner?? I guess it's because it's not HIS money he's WASTING!! That is very self-centered and, as far as the RULES of this board go, WRONG!
Doesn't ANYBODY give a XXXX about anybody else anymore???
Where do you think ROAD RAGE comes from?? It's the TOTAL LACK of respect for the OTHER person, that's where...people will drive 20 miles per hour in the fast lane, and then SLAM on their brakes if another car flashes them to move over....who the heck are THEY to tell me I can't drive 20 in the fast lane?? THE LAW, that's who!
This scenario (to ME) is the SAME THING!! And if this KenyanBoa dude can't understand that....I wouldn't be surprised!!
Now, I suppose he'll STILL try to tell me it's a different topic and mind my own business! ....Neil "
Also, I don't understand that because in the beginning of the statement it sounds like you are defending the person who wants to drive fast, then it sounds like you are defending the person going twenty and breaking. So who are you? Tha tail gater or the break-hitter?
Also, I don't know about Florida, but here in MA there is a minimum highway of 45mph so actually, the law (here at least)DOES say you can't go 20 in the fast lane.
What I want to know is why the personal attack? I managed to express an opinion without name calling, finger pointing or putting anybody down. You don't even know if I am a man or woman and your putting me down and calling me self centered. Why? What have I ever don't to you? Why the personal attack? I only lightly disagreed with you.
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03-18-2002, 10:54 AM
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Heather....As I said in my PERSONAL e-mail to you...I AM SORRY for dissing you like that! My ONLY excuse is I was having a very bad day, and I guess I took it out on you! I apologize for that! I had just gotten off the phone about this very topic and then I see ALL those threads about the same thing and I just lost it! My problem is...I ALWAYS try to think of the OTHER GUY FIRST! When I see people wasting someone else's money and bandwidth...I say something! I realize that I was TOTALLY WRONG in my thinking (as Rich Z. plainly put it!<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=' '> about THIS subject! As I've said before...I put my thoughts out there for ALL to see,and let the chips fall where they may! Nobody's perfect, as you can tell! When I'm wrong ...I ADMIT IT!! I WAS WRONG in saying what I did to you! ....Neil
BTW...I'm from NY, remember? I'm the Tailgater who would like to give all these slowpokes tickets (or death sentences!<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=' '> lol
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03-18-2002, 01:12 PM
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Yes, Neil, thankyou. The reason I posted publicly was because I saw that you were online when I wrote you a personal message. When you left without replying I thought you were going to ignore it. But you didn't! Thankyou for addressing me in a more nice way. I appreciate that. I feel better about the whole thing now. Okay, your back in my good book! <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=' '> Thanks for the email.
-Heather
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03-18-2002, 01:34 PM
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Heather...You're sweet! It takes a BIG MAN (WOMAN) to accept an apology! I really respect you for that! Thanks! BTW...I would NEVER ignore a question meant for me...good OR bad! ....Neil
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03-18-2002, 02:53 PM
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MR.Hunter has taken a perfectly good animal and blamed it on S.D.V. What he is not telling you is that he brings in w.c. animals, quite frequently. i know this because he has tried buying from me numerous times.He does not practice quarantine procedures, at least he didnt. I am not saying
that this animal didnt die from IBD. What i am saying is that
it did not come from here.Unfortunately i am not able to scroll down to post a full statement, so please feel free to contact me at sandiegovivarium.com and i will give a full statement
regarding matt hunter and bill cagle. OR CALL 619-944-1772
SINCERELY SAN DIEGO VIVARIUM
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03-18-2002, 03:39 PM
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Yes, I do bring in WC animals. I did not introduce the animal I got from you into my collection. I am not blaming you Dale, I simply had no other choice but to post this because people brought my name up in their posts and I was being asked to tell the truth. Dale, you are a victim as much as I, Bill, Chris, and numerous other people are. I did not intend to slander or make a bad name for you. I am sorry that all of this has happened, but the fact still remains that there is an original source that the virus came from and I think we would all like to know including you. Now, I remember you said on the phone that a pet store in your area was selling you IBD infected animals. If this is so, then who is this pet store?
Matt
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03-18-2002, 07:04 PM
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HEY MATT, DALE, AND TO WHOMEVER ELSE IT MAY CONCERN,
I AM NOT SIDING UP WITH ANYONE OR ATTEMPTING TO SLANDER ANYONE. THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE HAVE DONE TO ME. I AM IN NO WAY TRYING TO LAY THE BLAME ON ANYONE. BUT THE FACTS REMAIN. WE HAVE TWO SEPERATE ANIMALS; ONE IN TEXAS, ONE IN FLORIDA, THAT HAVE TESTED POSITIVE FOR IBD. BOTH OF THESE ANIMALS CAME FROM SAN DIEGO VIVARIUM. THESE ARE NOT MERELY ACCUSATIONS. THESE ARE VET REPORTS FROM TWO DIFFERENT VETS LOCATED IN TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT STATES. spam_I AM VERY SORRY FOR ALL THE PARTIES INVOLVED, BUT THE FACTS REMAIN. spam_MATT, YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY LESS DISTURBED ABOUT ALL THIS THAN I THOUGHT. DALE, YOU CAN SAY I'M THE BAD GUY, MATT'S THE BAD GUY, OR ANYONE OUT THERE IS THE BAD GUY. BUT ALL THE FACTS POINT TO YOU. IF YOU NEED MORE EVIDENCE, I SHOULD HAVE IT SOON. WE ARE STILL MAKING ARRANGEMENTS TO SEND THE 3 REMAINING ANIMALS PURCHASED FROM DALE TO THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA. I PERSONALLY AM GOING TO LISTEN TO WHAT DR. JACOBSON HAS TO SAY. I AM NOT MAD AT YOU, NOR DO I HATE YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. I JUST HOPE YOU HAVE LEARNED SOMETHING WHEN ALL OF THIS IS OVER. I HAVE ALSO NOTIFIED THE POLICE AFTER YOUR FRIENDS' THREATENING PHONE CALL TO ME LAST NIGHT. I HAVE HAD MY LAWYER IN ON THIS MATTER SINCE CHRIS STARTED POSTING ON THE BOA FORUM. HAVE YOU GUYS EVER HEARD THE SAYING, "ONLY FOOLS RUSH IN"? WELL THIS HAS PROVEN TRUE ONCE AGAIN, AND THAT IS WHY I CHOOSE TO GET THE FACTS BEFORE I OPEN MY MOUTH.
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03-18-2002, 09:47 PM
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Bill, you have two boas that you purchased fom me that have
come up with IBD.But of course Bill they couldnt have contracted this at your facility, you're Bill Cagle, and you only sell the best right? Quit kidding yourself, I have talked to numerous individuals today who relize they could have this dreaded virus in their collection, without even knowing it.
What you need to realize young man,is that denial is your worst enemy.Nobody knows where this came from so put it away.Your dentures are clackin in the wind.Be a man!
Nobody called you and threatened you. You are starting to sound dillusional. I will hopefully have a full statement posted
tomorrow about this.
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03-18-2002, 11:15 PM
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"What he is not telling you is that he brings in w.c. animals, quite frequently." what does this have to do with anything last time I checked there was not reports of wild animnals having IBD, IBD is a capivity related desease
"What i am saying is that it did not come from here." I dunno sounds like denial if ya ask me
just my 2 cents
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03-18-2002, 11:31 PM
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DALE, IF ANYONE IS DILLUSIONAL, IT IS OBVIOUS THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE YOU. I CAN HARDLY SEE HOW THE ANIMAL MATT GOT TESTED IN FLORIDA, OR THE ANIMAL CHRIS GOT TESTED IN TEXAS, COULD HAVE ANYTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH ME. I CAN'T SEE YOUR LOGIC, PLEASE EXPLAIN. WE WOULD ALL LOVE TO HEAR MORE.
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