San Diego Vivarium and IBD

"IN EARLY OCT. WHILE ATTENDING AN IRBA SHOW, I PURCHASED A TRIO OF C.B. SURINAME BOAS FROM A 16 YR. OLD KID. THESE ANIMALS WERE RAISED UP FROM BABIES, AND WERE THE ONLY ANIMALS THIS KID HAD.
HIS PARENTS WERE FORCING HIM TO GET RID OF THEM."

Way to go Dale. spam_Now you just dump everything on a "16 YR. OLD KID" hugh??? spam_This should be called SAN DIEGO VIVARIUM CODE OF ETHIC <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> spam_ I came to that show on October in San Diego on Saturday only. spam_Unless I missed out some "good stuff" or you had that deal on Sunday, I don't recall that there were any "16 YR. OLD KID" with "A TRIO OF C.B. SURINAME BOAS". spam_Since I was looking for an adult female Suriname by that time, I kept my eyes wide open during that day for one. spam_I wonder if someone may be able to trace the record with IRBA to see if there's any "16 YR. OLD KID" in that show as Dale say.

Now prove me wrong Dale. spam_"A TRIO OF C.B. SURINAME BOAS FROM A 16 YR. OLD KID. THESE ANIMALS WERE RAISED UP FROM BABIES, AND WERE THE ONLY ANIMALS THIS KID HAD.
HIS PARENTS WERE FORCING HIM TO GET RID OF THEM.
THE BOAS APPEARED WELL TAKEN CARE OF, WITH EXCELLANT BODY WEIGHT. THEY WERE 5.5.FT" spam_For Suriname, how long does it take to raise one from baby to 5.5 ft Dale? spam_2-3 years maybe? spam_That means the kid may have them since he was 13-14 yearsold? spam_(I hope you can do the math here spam_<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> ) spam_For a 13-14 yearsold kid who can afford to buy 3 CB Suriname in the year of 1998-1999, he must be Bill Gate's kid... spam_Unless his parents bought him them, but then I don't understand why they forced him to sell them if they bought them for their kid... spam_You may need to rework on your story here Dale, and PLEASE, don't blame it on Gary (typo, or whatever reason you want to come up), whom you to post it on behalf of yours.

Eventhough I am a nobody in herp community, I will still publicy apologize you Dale, if you point out that I am wrong. spam_In the mean time, I am humbly singing a song called "Dale Started a Joke." <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

John Nguyen
Boa Voyage

Dale,
You stated that you & your friend had "put away" any snakes that had come in contact with the one that Matt received from you. &nbsp;I am not trying to start a war, but did you have any of them tested for IBD? &nbsp;If so, what were the results?

KEN WOW!!!!!! YOUR BACK!!!!! <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> where the heck ya been man??? its nice to see ya around, just be careful man I would hate to see you get sued for exposing this guy Ken, ya know, I mean this whole ordeal must be someone elses fault as quick as Dale is to try and intimidate people, you were supposed to back down Ken, shame on you!!!!! Its good to see ya around man how ya been??

"Dale started a joke" that abosolutly kills me man way to funny LMAO!!!!!!

Chris I agree that whole post sounds exactly like a politician, trying to make two points in a post about three miles long, all he had to do was say I reinstate everything everyone else has said, one sentacne could have wrapped that whole thing up, oh well it was neat to see how he tries to shift things to a child

Hey dale everything you said there we all knew so I am just curious what was your whole point??? to start a joke???and from now on when you address me I am NOT a bandwagoner, I am the bandwagon leader and YOU will address me a such, dont forget that

Chris ,

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; The reason I posted for Dale was because if you look at his prior posts they were short and that is because for some unknown reason the system was only letting him post a paragraph or so at a time, according to Dale he contacted the webslave and asked why and the webslave did not know and could not figure it out. So he asked me to post it for him as a neutral party. &nbsp;I am sure that the webslave could verify this fact if Dale did contact him to report the problem, he would most likely have a record of the email.


Gary Walsch
Sunshine State Reptiles

JASON I WILL ADDRESS YOU AS AN IGNORANT IDIOT.
YOU CAN COME SEE ME IN JACKSONVILLE AND DISCUSS IT WITH ME IF YOU WOULD LIKE.YOU DONT REALLY QUALIFY AS A BANDWAGONER. MORE LIKE A CLOWN IN CAGLES THREE RING
CIRCLE JERK.I POSTED CHAINS OF EVENTS THAT ACTUALLY
HAPPENED AND WERE WITNESSED. IF THE TRUTH HURTS,
WELL SORRY.
THE OTHER GENTLEMAN KEN, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE OLDER
THEN TEN, SO WHAT DONT YOU GET ABOUT YOUR POSTING.
YOU ARE SAYING SNAKES CANNOT DIE OF IBD QUICKLY, YET MR.
HUNTERS DID. ITS NOT MY DEMEANOR, ITS YOUR STUPID
UNEDUCATED SELF WHO NEEDS TO REGROUP.MR. HUNTER RECIEVES AN ANIMAL FROM, IT DIES FAIRLY QUICK ALONG
WITH OTHERS BELONGING TO HIM. SIMPLE KEN.

ALSO KARA, I AM HAVING AN ANIMAL THAT WAS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE ANIMALS IN QUESTION TESTED AND WILL POST THE RESULTS.
THANKS TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO E-MAILED ME REGARDING THEIR FRUSTRATION WITH THIS SITUATION. I POSTED THE CHAIN OF EVENTS, THAT CAN BE VERIFIED. I THINK THE
THE VERY IMPORTANT POINT I MADE; YOU KNOW THE ONE ABOUT NOTIFICATION. IF YOU SENT A HEALTHY APPEARING BOA TO SOMEONE WHO SOLD IT TO SOMEONE ELSE, AND IT DIED OF IBD. WELL WOULD YOU WANT TO BE INFORMED IMMEDIATELY. I WAS NEVER INFORMED. IT WAS SOME TIME
UNTIL I FOUND OUT.

Dale....I've been staying out of this because I really don't know anthing about IBD...but, I DO KNOW PEOPLE! Do you really think that all of your whining, finger-pointing, yelling, threatening, condescending, pre-pubescent explanations are helping you?? You "could be" 100% correct (I don't think so, though), but...did you ever hear the phrase, ...."Thou doth protest too much"?? If you were be able to state your case without all the dribbling, you might be taken a little more seriously! You're digging yourself a whole that you might not be able to climb out of! There are LOTS of people reading this thread, and your answers are like a little kid getting caught with his hand in the cookie jar, and then proclaiming it wasn't him!! Hey...if the "glove" doesn't fit, we must acquit??? I don't think so! But, you keep trying, OK???

Had you come here and said, ..."Hey, ya know...it's always POSSIBLE it MIGHT have originated with me....I DOUBT IT, but, let's see what we can do to alleviate this problem!" You would probably have been hailed a King, with more ethics than the rest of us would know what to do with! Did you do that? NO! All you're looking for is a WAY OUT! That's SO WRONG!! Come on, man...take SOME responsibility??? It's called being a MAN!! .....I'm done! ....Neil

JASON, LET ME WALK YOU THROUGH THIS.
YOU SELL ME A HEALTHY APPEARING SNAKE. AFTER APERIOD OF TIME, I SELL THE SNAKE TO SOMEONE ELSE. ARE YOU WITH ME? GOOD! THE SNAKE DIES OF IBD. WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW JASON ABOUT THAT. OR WOULD YOU NOT CARE
ENOUGH TO THE POINT, THAT WHAT I DONT KNOW WONT HURT ME OR OTHERS. THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING ME ABOUT LAD. WHY DIDNT BILLY GIVE IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION ABOUT THIS, OR ANY TO ME FOR THAT MATTER.THAT IS BLATANT NEGLICENCE, AND IS HOW THIS VIRUS CAN GET OUT OF HAND.YOU WANT TO WAR OVER THIS
JASON. BE MY GUEST.ITS A LOSING BATTLE

Well Dale if you are gonna put it that way, I am happy being the clown, I would rather have people laughing with me then at me, because all you are, is the freak in a cage that everyone is throwing baseballs at, so I think I would much rather be the clown and thats Mr. Clown to you!!!!

NIEL IF YOU READ MY POSTS THOROUGHLY YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT THERE IS NO WAY THAT I CAN SAY THAT THIS VIRUS COULDNT HAVE COME FROM ME. WHAT YOU ARE SENSING IS MY FRUSTRATION WITH BILL CAGLES ARROGANCE
AND THE IMPOSSIBLE OF HIM EVER HAVING THIS IN HIS COLLECTION. LIKE I SAID IN MY POST, I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS WALKED ON BILLYS STREET.YOU SHOULD HERE THE OTHERS. NOT AS PRETTY. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE ANGER THAT IS COMING OUT, BUT AT THIS POINT IT IS SUBSTANTIATED, SO DONT MAKE COMMENTS LIKE YOU MAY BE RIGHT BUT I DONT THINK SO. I DONT CARE IF YOU THROW ME OFF THIS BOI. THERE ARE SOME ANGRY PEOPLE HERE
AND MORE THEN ONE AND IT IS WAY BEYOND JUSTIFIED.