Expect a restructuring here.

Obviously this idea was a bust. The state forums are rarely used, if at all, so I can't see any sense in maintaining this any longer. Not sure exactly what I am going to do, but the state forums will, at the very least, be going away. I haven't decided if this entire category will remain here or not.

I do thank adamanteus for all the work he put into finding those links for each state forum, and I do regret that it apparently was wasted effort.

Anyway, just a heads up in case you come looking for this section and it is gone in the near future.

Rich,
Although there isn't much posting going on within these threads, I still feel that they are a valuable resource. I have referred people to them on several occasions to research their state laws.

Perhaps we could set them up as just links. But I feel that it would be a real shame to just do away with them. They are an excellent resource and as legislation continues to creep up on our hobby, I feel that they will become even more important.

I have recently come across some additional information that relates directly to this forum and if given some time, I will be happy to update each and every state with the new info.

What do you think?

Mike,

I will put up just about as many forums as people ask for about mostly any pertinent topic. My only requirement is that they be used. Otherwise they are just taking up real estate and serving no purpose but to confuse people with too many options to choose from.

What I look for is any forum that does not have new posts within the last 30 days and then just ponder who would actually miss it if it were gone. When I see some of these state forums that have NEVER had any posts in them beyond the initial links thread, well, what would you think if this was your site?

So, any thread that gets a new post at least once a month will probably not show up on my radar screen. Hint, hint....

Rich,
I really think that the State threads should fall under a different category then your basic "chat-type" forums. These forums are informational in nature.

If we hold them to the same rules as the other forums, we'll end up with only a few states being represented. Logic dictates that each state should at the very least have the basic information listed for anyone who needs a reliable source of information for their individual state laws.

As I stated previously, I'll be happy to update the various state threads with new information. I really feel that with the current issues involving county and state legislation, these forums will prove to become even more valuable.

If you ultimately decide to do away with them, please give a little notice and I will copy them all to a page on my website. Then possibly you could at least leave a link to the information there.


Sound fair?

I am with you on this one, Mike.

Some forums are there for the information it contains as a benefit to the community, like care sheets. It does not necessarily need discussion to be beneficial.

Maybe we do not need each State to have a separate forum, but convert the links that are currently in each State forum into a single sticky within the Laws and Legislative Forum.

Also along the "FYI" lines, I think we need some links to places to report fraud and theft. I know most of the regs around here already know this info but the new people to this industry/hobby/internet may not. I would be more than happy to put together a list of state attorney general links and internet fraud reporting sites for this. I think it would be a valuable contribution to the site.

Well, OK. If you guys think the wood here isn't as dead as it looks to me, I will keep them on until they appear to be even MORE dead then they already are. Does that sound OK?

Rich,

I agree with Mike. There may not be posts to those forums, but they're referred to frequently.

It might help if someone volunteered to keep particular states updated with relevant news about or proposed changes to any laws within that state. If you think that would help to keep more current information available, I'll certainly volunteer for Missouri.

Rich, do what you want with this info. Move it to a more apporpriate place, delete it or whatever you want. I just hink it would be a good thing to have somwhere on this site.

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The Attorney Generals of all 50 states and American Territories.

Alabama: Troy King (R) (334) 242-7300
State House, 11 S. Union St. Montgomery, AL 36130
http://www.ago.state.al.us

Alaska: Scott J. Nordstrand (Acting) (907) 465-3600
P.O.Box 110300, Diamond Courthouse, Juneau, AK 99811-0300
http://www.law.state.ak.us

American Samoa: Malaetasi M. Togafau (684) 633-4163
American Samoa Gov't, Exec. Ofc. Bldg, Utulei, Territory of American Samoa, Pago Pago, AS 96799
http://www.samoanet.com/asg/asgdla97.html

Arizona: Terry Goddard (D) (602) 542-4266
1275 W. Washington St., Phoenix, AZ 85007
http://www.attorneygeneral.state.az.us

Arkansas: Mike Beebe (D) (800) 482-8982
200 Tower Bldg., 323 Center St., Little Rock, AR 72201-2610
http://www.ag.state.ar.us

California: Bill Lockyer (D) (916) 445-9555
1300 I St., Ste. 1740, Sacramento, CA 95814
http://caag.state.ca.us

Colorado: John Suthers (R) (303) 866-4500
1525 Sherman Street, Denver, CO 80203
http://www.ago.state.co.us

Connecticut: Richard Blumenthal (D) (860) 808-5318
55 Elm St., Hartford, CT 06141-0120
http://www.cslib.org/attygenl/

Delaware: M. Jane Brady (R) (302) 577-8338
Carvel State Office Bldg., 820 N. French St., Wilmington, DE 19801
http://www.state.de.us/attgen

District of Columbia: Robert Spagnoletti (D) (202) 724-1305
John A. Wilson Building, 1350 PA Ave, NW Suite 409, Washington, DC 20009
http://occ.dc.gov

Florida: Charlie Crist (R) (850) 487-1963
The Capitol, PL 01, Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
http://myfloridalegal.com/

Georgia: Thurbert E. Baker (D) (404) 656-3300
40 Capitol Square, SW, Atlanta, GA 30334-1300
http://ganet.org/ago/

Guam: Douglas Moylan (671) 475-3409
Judicial Center Bldg., Ste. 2-200E, 120 W. O'Brien Dr., Hagatna, Guam 96910
http://www.guamattorneygeneral.com/

Hawaii: Mark J. Bennett (R) (808) 586-1500
425 Queen St., Honolulu, HI 96813
http://www.state.hi.us/ag/index.html

Idaho: Lawrence Wasden (R) (208) 334-2400
Statehouse, Boise, ID 83720-1000
http://www2.state.id.us/ag/

Illinois: Lisa Madigan (D) (312) 814-3000
James R. Thompson Ctr., 100 W. Randolph St., Chicago, IL 60601
http://www.ag.state.il.us

Indiana: Steve Carter (R) (317) 232-6201
Indiana Government Center South - 5th Floor, 402 West Washington Street, Indianapolis, IN 46204
http://www.in.gov/attorneygeneral/

Iowa: Tom Miller (D) (515) 281-5164
Hoover State Office Bldg., 1305 E. Walnut, Des Moines, IA 50319
http://www.IowaAttorneyGeneral.org

Kansas: Phill Kline (R) (785) 296-2215
120 S.W. 10th Ave., 2nd Fl., Topeka, KS 66612-1597
http://www.ink.org/public/ksag

Kentucky: Greg Stumbo (D) (502) 696-5300
State Capitol, Rm. 116, Frankfort, KY 40601
http://www.law.state.ky.us

Louisiana: Charles Foti (D) (225) 342-7013
P.O. Box 94095, Baton Rouge, LA 70804-4095
http://www.ag.state.la.us/

Maine: G. Steven Rowe (D) (207) 626-8800
State House Station 6, Augusta, ME 04333
http://www.state.me.us/ag

Maryland: J. Joseph Curran Jr. (D) (410) 576-6300
200 St. Paul Place, Baltimore, MD 21202-2202
http://www.oag.state.md.us

Massachusetts: Tom Reilly (D) (617) 727-2200
1 Ashburton Place, Boston, MA 02108-1698
http://www.ago.state.ma.us

Michigan: Mike Cox (R) (517) 373-1110
P.O.Box 30212, 525 W. Ottawa St., Lansing, MI 48909-0212
http://www.ag.state.mi.us

Minnesota: Mike Hatch (D) (651) 296-3353
State Capitol, Ste. 102, St. Paul, MN 55155
http://www.ag.state.mn.us

Mississippi: Jim Hood (D) (601) 359-3680
Department of Justice, P.O. Box 220, Jackson, MS 37205-0220
http://www.ago.state.ms.us/

Missouri: Jeremiah W. (Jay) Nixon (D) (573) 751-3321
Supreme Ct. Bldg., 207 W. High St., Jefferson City, MO 65101
http://www.ago.state.mo.us

Montana: Mike McGrath (D) (406) 444-2026
Justice Bldg., 215 N. Sanders, Helena, MT 59620-1401
http://doj.state.mt.us/

Nebraska: Jon Bruning (R) (402) 471-2682
State Capitol, P.O.Box 98920, Lincoln, NE 68509-8920
http://www.nol.org/home/ago

Nevada: Brian Sandoval (R) (775) 684-1100
Old Supreme Ct. Bldg., 100 N. Carson St., Carson City, NV 89701
http://ag.state.nv.us/

New Hampshire: Kelly Ayotte (603) 271-7680
State House Annex, 25 Capitol St., Concord, NH 03301-6397
http://www.state.nh.us/nhdoj/

New Jersey: Peter C. Harvey (609) 292-8740
Richard J. Hughes Justice Complex, 25 Market St., CN 080, Trenton, NJ 08625
http://www.state.nj.us/lps/

New Mexico: Patricia A. Madrid (D) (505) 827-6000
P.O. Drawer 1508, Sante Fe, NM 87504-1508
http://www.ago.state.nm.us

New York: Eliot Spitzer (D) (518) 474-7330
Dept. of Law - The Capitol, 2nd fl., Albany, NY 12224
http://www.oag.state.ny.us

North Carolina: Roy Cooper (D) (919) 716-6400
Dept. of Justice, P.O.Box 629, Raleigh, NC 27602-0629
http://www.ncdoj.com/default.jsp

North Dakota: Wayne Stenehjem (R) (701) 328-2210
State Capitol, 600 E. Boulevard Ave., Bismarck, ND 58505-0040
http://www.ag.state.nd.us

Northern Mariana Islands: Pamela Brown (670) 664-2341
Caller Box 10007, Capitol Hill, Saipan, MP 95960

Ohio: Jim Petro (R) (614) 466-4320
State Office Tower, 30 E. Broad St., Columbus, OH 43266-0410
http://www.ag.state.oh.us

Oklahoma: W. A. Drew Edmondson (D) (405) 521-3921
State Capitol, Rm. 112, 2300 N. Lincoln Blvd., Oklahoma City, OK 73105
http://www.oag.state.ok.us

Oregon: Hardy Myers (D) (503) 378-4732
Justice Bldg., 1162 Court St., NE, Salem, OR 97301
http://www.doj.state.or.us

Pennsylvania: Tom Corbett (R) (717) 787-3391
1600 Strawberry Square, Harrisburg, PA 17120
http://www.attorneygeneral.gov

Puerto Rico: Roberto J. Sanchez-Ramos
GPO Box 902192, San Juan, PR 00902-0192
http://www.justicia.gobierno.pr

Rhode Island: Patrick Lynch (D) (401) 274-4400
150 S. Main St., Providence, RI 02903
http://www.riag.state.ri.us

South Carolina: Henry McMaster (R) (803) 734-3970
Rembert C. Dennis Office Bldg., P.O.Box 11549, Columbia, SC 29211-1549
http://www.scattorneygeneral.org

South Dakota: Larry Long (R) (605) 773-3215
500 E. Capitol, Pierre, SD 57501-5070
http://www.state.sd.us/attorney/attorney.html

Tennessee: Paul G. Summers (D) (615) 741-5860
500 Charlotte Ave., Nashville, TN 37243
http://www.attorneygeneral.state.tn.us

Texas: Greg Abbott (R) (512) 463-2100
Capitol Station, P.O.Box 12548, Austin, TX 78711-2548
http://www.oag.state.tx.us

Utah: Mark Shurtleff (R) (801) 538-9600
State Capitol, Rm. 236, Salt Lake City, UT 84114-0810
http://attorneygeneral.utah.gov/

Vermont: William H. Sorrell (D) (802) 828-3173
109 State St., Montpelier, VT 05609-1001
http://www.state.vt.us/atg

Virgin Islands: Alva Swan (Acting) (340) 774-5666
Dept. of Justice, G.E.R.S. Complex 48B-50C Kronprinsdens Gade, St. Thomas, VI 00802
Virginia: Judith W. Jagdmann (R) (804) 786-2071
900 E. Main St., Richmond, VA 23219
http://www.oag.state.va.us

Washington: Rob McKenna (R) (360) 753-6200
900 Fourth Street, Suite 2000, Olympia, WA 98504-0100
http://www.wa.gov/ago

West Virginia: Darrell V. McGraw Jr. (D) (304) 558-2021
State Capitol, 1900 Kanawha Blvd. , E., Charleston, WV 25305
http://www.wvs.state.wv.us/wvag/

Wisconsin: Peg Lautenschlager (D) (608) 266-1221
State Capitol, Ste. 114 E., P.O.Box 7857, Madison, WI 53707-7857
http://www.doj.state.wi.us

Wyoming: Pat Crank (D) (307) 777-7841
State Capitol Bldg., Cheyenne, WY 82002
http://attorneygeneral.state.wy.us

I guess whatever it takes. I guess I am just getting tired of looking at forums on this site with a pitiful number of posts after such a long time of being here. I would think that even just one person out of the 17,000 registered here would be able to find time to post in any of the forums here and make them fruitful. It would be a whole lot less cluttered by having just a single forum for State issues and have a separate THREAD where there are now separate forums.

Really, all I am asking is that you all SHOW me that you want these forums to be here, not TELL me. That's all that I am looking for.

Shrap, it would take me ALL day to cut and paste that info into the separate forums where they should go. Which, quite honestly, I am not going to do. In fact, you are basically proving my point that consolidating all of those forums into one catchall forum might be the best thing to do here.