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Old 06-05-2002, 09:25 AM   #81
HallsHerps
just was reading over this thread ....####heads like this need to be castratedhas anyone else  yet to receive payment? as i was going down the python ads on KS  low down and dirty behold there still at it !Have-a-herp
i hafta agree looks like old Dan Camara doesnt care who he sales to long as they pay him to defraud or just plain STEAL his patrons monies kingsnake charges outragious prices to post forsale items so it looks like by doing the right thing ... they would say ok look people are getting taken by this paying advertiser so maybe we should cut there ads loose and help keep KS a good place but do they <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> doesnt look like it .Owell i hope those who have been taken can get what is theres ... good luck to all
 
Old 06-05-2002, 10:42 PM   #82
The BoidSmith
Deja vu? <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/boi/...ptiles/0/43350
 
Old 06-06-2002, 11:21 AM   #83
sexysnake
[b] <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> Good Question,

Why didn't you freely give up their phone number? &nbsp; I think you can see how frustrated people are about this, come back on here and GIVE IT UP!!!!!!!!! &nbsp;Jeff, the only inside person to the phone number sooooo many want. &nbsp;


torie miller (sexysnake)
 
Old 06-07-2002, 10:44 PM   #84
mtsd
Hello all:

My name is Scott Bulgrin and I have been ripped off by Angela Fletcher and Al Heck for ball pythons. &nbsp;I have not had any contact from her since May 25, 2002 and have not received a refund. With respect to Al's offer of restitution-Bull####. &nbsp;I have reported them to Kingsnake.com, the FBI Internet Fraud Consumer Complaint Section, and the Havana, IL police dept. &nbsp;for internet fraud, false advertising, and mail fraud. I would suggest that any others do the same. &nbsp;I also am filing fraud charges with the U.S. Post Office, the New Mexico Attorney General for Consumer Protection, and the Illinois Attorney General for Consumer Protection. &nbsp;I plan on charging her with fraud to as many agencies as possible, and will continue to follow up on them. &nbsp;Hopefully, her so called business will be shut down. &nbsp;I will be happy to assist anyone else who has been ripped off by her and her boyfriend. &nbsp;I would also beg, anyone who is contemplating doing business with her NOT TO DO SO!!!!

Scott Bulgrin

Scott Bulgrin
 
Old 06-08-2002, 05:21 AM   #85
Christy Grayson
I can't believe that she is STILL posting on Kingsnake!!!! I guess she is not phased at all about the reality of what she is doing can get her in serious trouble! I hope everyone in this hobby now knows of her and will avoid her. I hope that everyone that she has burned will speak up and take action. Scott, I wish you luck and let us know how everything turns out.
 
Old 06-08-2002, 10:02 AM   #86
The BoidSmith
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have 2.2 het. ghost pairs left and .2 extra het. ghost females left for sale along with several possible het. ghost ball pythons. Hets. are $225.00 a pair, Extra Het females are $150.00 ea., 66% poss. hets. are $175.00 a pair, and 50% possible hets are $130.00 a pair. Two ringer males are also available for only $50.00 each (photos available). I also have a list of African Exporters available for purchase (please inquire). All trades for reptiles or the exporters info will be considered.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

This add was posted on June 5. Prices are really out of this world. Just as an example Estillian Reptiles is selling 100% hetero Butterscotch females for $400 (which I believe is already a good price)

Have-a-Herp is selling theirs for $225 a pair and additional females at $150!!! Possibles go from $130 to $175 a pair. (Those of you that have been in this list for a while probably remember the "Tyronne" thread).

They have now diversified their business and now sell a list of African Exporters!

Jeff, I know you are enjoying the balls you traded for your Nintendo. Good for you. But if I were you I wouldn't put too much hope on the genetics of those snakes. Kingsnake.com is doing absolutely nothing to stop this. It's in your hands to do the right thing and provide the telephone number of Have-a-Herp to the people that have been deceived in one way or another.

Thanks, &nbsp;<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
 
Old 06-08-2002, 02:09 PM   #87
mtsd
Daniel:

Thanks for the support and I'll let you know what happens.

Scott Bulgrin
 
Old 06-08-2002, 07:56 PM   #88
cuga
OKAY,,i lost the paper that their ### was on,,,BUT i do remember some of it...it will be easy to find the area code,,i dont remember that,,,but i am positive that the last 4 ###s are 9099,,,and i am fairly sure that the first 3 ###s are 357... however,,everytime except twice,,,when i have called that number,,,it said customer is unavailable... &nbsp;you should be able to find the complete ### with what ihave given...good luck
&nbsp;Daniel,,as far as the genetics go,,,if they are not what they said,,,oh well,,i got 5 beautiful(and i do mean BEAUTIFUL) babies for next to nothing!!!! healthy and feeding babies i might add,,,so if their not 50%s,,it really doesnt make any difference to me/.... and if they are,,,,all the better.......
&nbsp;hope this ### helps in some way,,,sorry i cant find the exact number,,,but i am fairly sure those are the right ###s,,i know the last 4 are
&nbsp;Jeff Lewis
 
Old 06-08-2002, 08:33 PM   #89
The BoidSmith
Jeff,

Well, you did your best with the phone #, although, as you suggest, I can bet they can't be reached either.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Daniel,,as far as the genetics go,,,if they are not what they said,,,oh well,,i got 5 beautiful(and i do mean BEAUTIFUL) babies for next to nothing!!!! healthy and feeding babies i might add,,,so if their not 50%s,,it really doesnt make any difference to me/.... and if they are,,,,all the better.......
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Hey!, enjoy them for what they are, beautiful baby ball pythons. Don't get into the "morph craze". Don't get me wrong, I do believe they are 50%s, but the "other 50"!!!

<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

Have a nice weekend!
 
Old 06-09-2002, 01:00 PM   #90
cuga
hi all,,,i found the ###for have-a-herp,,,hope this helps in some way,,,good luck!!!!!!
&nbsp;(309)357-9099
&nbsp;i told yall i thought i had it right!!!!!!
&nbsp;Jeff Lewis
 

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