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Old 12-27-2013, 11:30 PM   #21
Celtic Constrictors
Ahhh, that I did not know. I was told it was 3%. Thanks for the clarification.
 
Old 12-28-2013, 09:08 AM   #22
StuTennyson
On Dec 22, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Jeffery Lockman <jefferylockman@yahoo.com> wrote:





I sent the payment









On Sunday, December 22, 2013 6:44 PM, Stuart Tennyson <stuart.tennyson@gmail.com> wrote:


I have pics posted on my ads and Facebook page linked on my ads.

Sent from my iPhone


> On Dec 22, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Jeffery Lockman <jefferylockman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> West virginia. I would prefer a picture first if all possible
>
>
> ------------------------------
>> On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 11:57 AM PST Stuart Tennyson wrote:
>>
>> It would be best if you send a deposit to hold one because since you started emailing me I've sold 2 more and only have 3 left. I will send pictures after I receive payment or a deposit. I'm sorry to be this way but you might be surprised how many people I've sent pictures to that I never hear back from. I also think it would be best to wait until we have a week without a holiday in the middle to ship. I wouldn't want there to be a delay over a weekend or even more than one day. Especially this time of year. What state are you in?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 22, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Jeffery Lockman <jefferylockman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> temps are warm tomorrow but will be around 40 for the high the remainder of the week. I was wondering about shipping Christmas eve. would it be best the day after Christmas? Also, can you send pictures?
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 11:29 AM PST Stuart Tennyson wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes if you PayPal payment today I can ship tomorrow for a Tuesday delivery. I will also email pics as soon as I receive payment. What state are you in? West Virginia ? What are temps like? I can ship with a heat pack but they don't always stay warm until delivery. Also shipping a day before Xmas could be risky.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Dec 22, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Jeffery Lockman <jefferylockman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> if I send the money today would you be able to overnight it tomorrow? Do you use fedex, usps, or ups?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, December 22, 2013 12:19 PM, Jeffery Lockman <jefferylockman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> When can you can send pics of the most docile one you were referring to?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:47 AM, Stuart Tennyson <stuart.tennyson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> My email is my PayPal and yes I can send pics
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Jeffery Lockman <jefferylockman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Can you send me the pictures and also where to send the paypal payment?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:11 PM, Stuart Tennyson <stuart.tennyson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> If you paypal then add 3 % to cover paypal fees. My ad in kingsnake.com listed pairs for $350 plus shipping and lone males for $175 plus shipping. The few I have left are pretty docile. Once I receive payment I will email pics of what I have for you to pic from.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 19, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Jeffery Lockman <jefferylockman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I had seen it on kingsnake. There were male and female listed for sale. Can you email me pictures of the most docile you have? Do you accept paypal payments?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, December 19, 2013 6:32 AM, Stuart Tennyson <stuart.tennyson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Jeffery,
>>>>
>>>> What ad did you see my price at $150? Both my ads in king snake.com and fauna classifieds has them listed for $175 plus shipping. Shipping usually runs more than $50 so you get a little break there. Earlier in the season I had them listed for $150 because I had too many males but that price was a special price for a short period of time. I'll honor that old price plus the new shipping cost and sell a male for $200 shipped if you want one now. I won't hold that price for long though. Let me know soon.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Stu
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 9:48 PM, Stuart Tennyson <stuart.tennyson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> $225 shipped for one well started albino male hog. Feeding on frozen/thawed unscented pinkies. As a general rule hognose snakes are pretty docile. They take on their own individual personalities though. About one in 15 will hiss and strike when disturbed. They never strike to bite. Some develop very aggressive feeding responses and may bite when fed. They have good eye site and when feeding will try to grab anything that moves. Having said all that I can pick one out for you with a quiet disposition. They are really cool snakes to have and work with.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Jeffery Lockman <jefferylockman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What would be your best price on one shipped? Also, I several pythons and boas but never a hognose. What are their temperaments like? I have heard they rarely ever strike and some say they strike constantly. Just wondering as I have kids at home and would like reliable information from someone who sells them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, December 16, 2013 11:41 PM, Stuart Tennyson <stuart.tennyson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I'll ship a flat rate of $50 for a male albino hog. Let me know. I have a few nice ones left. Thanks. Stu
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 16, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Jeffery Lockman <jefferylockman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What would shipping to zip code 25057 be on the male baby hognose?
>
 
Old 12-28-2013, 10:09 AM   #23
StuTennyson
Jeffery Lockman
3:24 PM (17 hours ago)

to me
Only the uneducated are whining individuals. Stop messaging me and take your fraud somewhere else.

>>

Stuart Tennyson <stuart.tennyson@gmail.com>
3:05 PM (17 hours ago)
to Jeffery
You're still whining......


>>


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Jeffery Lockman <jefferylockman@yahoo.com> wrote:

I don't have to brag or bully. Come to my office you question my level of education and professionalism. I'm alot better than you obviously because I don't try to scam people. I had to dispute it with paypal to get a full refund. You are the one harassing me so stop messaging me.



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On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 12:29 PM PST Stuart Tennyson wrote:

>I question your claim to be a professional and your educational level. I
>cannot believe anyone with that much education and professionalism would
>stoop to your level of false allegations and name calling. Bragging about
>ones education and belittling and insulting someone you know nothing about
>only alludes to you having some serious insecurities about yourself. You
>sound like you have bully complex. You're like a little kid throwing out
>insults in an effort to make yourself look bigger and better. You got your
>full refund so quit your whining....little man.
>
>
>On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Jeffery Lockman
><jefferylockman@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Post what you please and contact who you want. If you post about me
>> obviously your harassing me. I'm telling the truth regarding you in all the
>> posts I have prepared to launch. You are harassing me and misrepresented
>> yourself by selling something you don't even have. I sent you your $200
>> which you agreed to. Then you ask for a paypal fee. I had no problem
>> sending had paypal allowed me to do so. I could have easily sent you the
>> little $7.00 had you waited until I made it home from traveling. You
>> refused to do so because I doubt you even have a legitimate sale. You kept
>> wanting a check which I clearly said I will not send since there is so much
>> fraud and paypal or a credit card is more secure. Had I sent a check I
>> would have never received a product nor a refund. The day after Christmas
>> was the only day the temperature was cooperative.
>> I'm a professional with a Doctorate in Counseling and Psychology so I am
>> an honest educated person. One reason I hate dealing with the uneducated
>> like yourself is a low comprehension level. I will not email you further
>> since you are indeed a fraud but I will definitely make the fraud known to
>> others which is not threatening or harassment (check the law). Consumers
>> have the right to know when they are being scammed and I intend to make
>> them completely aware of it don't worry about that. Because of you someone
>> lost wages from taking off a days work (not a minimum wage rate like
>> yourself) and I lost on an enclosure I had to purchase. No big deal I had a
>> reputable dealer order one at a better price than you allegedly offered so
>> I will have it by tomorrow. Have a nice life and stop wasting peoples time
>> with fraud. Do not contact me further or I will block your email.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 27, 2013 12:11 PM, Stuart Tennyson <
>> stuart.tennyson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This is what I've posted regarding my recent experience with you. I
>> believe it is an accurate description of what transpired between us. Let
>> me also tell you there are laws prohibiting the use of electronic
>> communications, internet and social media for making terrorist threats and
>> harassment. I will report you to the authorities if you continue to
>> harass or threaten me. Do not contact me anymore.
>>
>> Jeffery Lockman/John Pennington-I'm not sure which name is his as he uses
>> one for email and the other for his paypal account.
>>
>> He contacted me a few weeks ago regarding some snakes I had advertised for
>> sale. He asked me to sell one to him for less than the advertised price.
>> I agreed and even gave him a discount on shipping. He asked if he could
>> paypal the payment and I told him to include 3% to cover the paypal fee. He
>> sent the payment without the additional amount to cover the fee. He
>> insisted I ship his snake the day after Christmas even though I recommended
>> against it due to temperatures and before a weekend. This gave him a
>> week to get the $7.00 paypal fee to me. He did not make the payment so I
>> told him I would not ship his snake. He requested a refund which I sent
>> immediately. He then sent me a threatening email saying he would make
>> numerous derogatory comments about me on several social media venues.
>>
>> This is it in a nutshell but there are a lot more details in the emails
>> that went back and forth which I kept copies of. This individual was
>> very difficult, demanding and uncooperative from the start. Even though
>> I gave him a discount on what he wanted he still tried to short change me.
>> Be forewarned if he contacts you regarding any purchases. I will not do
>> business with this individual and I recommend anyone else to think twice
>> before engaging this individual in any business transactions.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Jeffery Lockman <jefferylockman@yahoo.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for wasting my time and money. For that I'm posting what a fraud
>> your ads are on kingsnake, fauna, and facebook so look for them on all
>> those sites in the near future.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 26, 2013 11:58 AM, Jeffery Lockman <
>> jefferylockman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> You sent $200 instead of doing a refund which charged me a fee. If you
>> do a refund it doesn't charge either a free. Please refund the entire
>> amount the proper way or I will dispute it with paypal. That is sad you
>> costed me an enclosure plus someones daily wage over $7.00 I could easily
>> send tomorrow from another account. Let me know what you decide.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 26, 2013 11:55 AM, Stuart Tennyson <
>> stuart.tennyson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I just refunded your payment. I sent it to the paypal account
>> associated with penningtonjr@grizzlies.adams.edu John Pennington. It's
>> the same account the you sent your payment from.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On Dec 26, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Jeffery Lockman <jefferylockman@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > When a payment is refunded the fee goes away so no one is charged a fee.
>> You would definitely get 7.00 tomorrow if you would ship the item. I would
>> take a huge loss on buying accessories and someone losses a days worth of
>> wages for nothing. It isn't worth it over a small 7.00 that I can send from
>> my dad's account tomorrow.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> > On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:35 AM PST Stuart Tennyson wrote:
>> >
>> >> Its not the $7 but rather the principal of the entire deal. Paypal
>> deducted $7 from your $200 payment but I will absorb that fee and send you
>> $200 back.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPad
>> >
>> >> On Dec 26, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Jeffery Lockman <
>> jefferylockman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It isn't fair to me since I already spent so much on an enclosure and
>> accessories. Also had someone take off work to wait on it. I can talk to
>> paypal tonight again or try to send the 7 from a friend's account
>> tomorrow. I'm traveling now which makes it hard to do anything. It's up to
>> you. i can send the money from another account tomorrow if you want to ship
>> it today or you can do a full refund with pay pal. I'm not going to rip
>> someone off over a tiny 7.00.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:17 AM PST Stuart Tennyson wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm sorry for your paypal problems but I feel the price we settled on
>> included the paypal fee. I've already discounted your snake by $25 and
>> shipping by $5. I don't charge a box fee but they cost me $5 for box,
>> packing and heat pack. If I discount anther $7 that just too much. How do
>> you want your refund?
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPad
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 26, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Jeffery Lockman <
>> jefferylockman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I'm trying to get my PayPal confirmed but in no way shape or form
>> will I use a checking account over what happened previously. If someone
>> uses paypal with my card it's easily canceled but a checking account is a
>> nightmare. If you don't want to wait then you can refund the amount and I
>> will purchase from someone else. I have already purchased an enclosure and
>> accessories and had someone take off work to wait on it. I have talked to
>> paypal numerous times and they still can't figure out how to add my PayPal
>> card because they said it should be there which it was prior to canceling
>> my last account with them. There literally isn't a way for me to add the
>> card back as it says can't add a paypal card. customer service should but
>> getting someone who speaks English and knows what they are talking about is
>> ridiculous as they just go through the trouble shooting crap and have no
>> idea what they shouldered doing. I have been spent hours talking to them.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 7:34 AM PST Stuart Tennyson wrote:
>> >>
>> >> There is still the matter of the unpaid $7.00 PayPal fee.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPad
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 26, 2013, at 8:32 AM, Jeffery Lockman <
>> jefferylockman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The enclosure is set and my dad took off work tomorrow to wait on the
>> snake to arrive the alternate address works well. I have been away the week
>> but should arrive back tomorrow evening so I will let you know how
>> everything arrived then. It looks as if the temps will drop significantly
>> after Sunday and stay that way so I guess this is the best weather days we
>> will have for a while.
>> >> Thanks and he will be watching for it tomorrow.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 1:55 PM PST Stuart Tennyson wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ok I will ship to your alternate address thurs. Hognoses prefer
>> warmer temps. Around 85-90 at the warm end and room temp at the other. I
>> feed mine every 4-6 days depending on activity level. After they eat they
>> usually curl up somewhere and digest. When the tart crawling around again I
>> feed them. I will use fedex. I used to use ups but had too many problems.
>> How did you want to handle the remaining $7?
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 23, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Jeffery Lockman <
>> jefferylockman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> That address would be best. What shipping method do you use. The
>> worst for delivery is ups as they 99 percent of the time say they attempted
>> to deliver but no one was home when in fact they never made an attempt. If
>> you want to ship Thursday that is fine as I doubt the temperature will
>> cooperate after the weekend.
>> >> Also I have never had a hognose so how often do you feed and how
>> much.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 11:41 AM PST Stuart Tennyson wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I can ship Thursday for Friday but I don't like to because if there a
>> delay then it could sit somewhere over he weekend. I can ship to your
>> parents if you think that's better. If you want you can put a check in he
>> mail for the 7. Address is 6218 S Ridge Rd, Ft Worth, TX 76135
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 23, 2013, at 1:25 PM, Jeffery Lockman <
>> jefferylockman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 13046102226 for the telephone number. I do not have an address in
>> town to shop to. The most successful has been the post office for prior
>> shipments. As for weather it looks as if this Friday is the best as the
>> high will touch 50. After Friday the next 14 days are averaging 35 to 38.
>> My parents have more success than I at receiving things on time even though
>> they live half mile above me. you can ship to them 152 is the assigned
>> house number with the rest remaining the same. I have to figure out how to
>> increase my PayPal limit for sending. It shows I have 2.47 limit left and
>> unconfirmed. my prior paypal had my checking info but was someone gained
>> access and I had to have the account canceled at the bank and PayPal some
>> years ago. I will try to figure it out but I will never add checking to
>> paypal again. Let me know regarding the shipping day as after Friday the
>> temps never touch 40.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 9:08 AM PST Stuart Tennyson wrote:
>> >>
>> >> They are both very similar in shade and color. I will hold the second
>> one for you. They are both very calm. I am glad you don't mind waiting
>> because I don't feel comfortable shipping with a holiday in the middle of
>> the week during winter. I don't like shipping in the winter but especially
>> when there's a possibility of a delay. I lived in a rural area before so I
>> know exactly what you mean. Do you by chance have an address in town I can
>> ship to? Keep on eye on the weather and temps because even though these
>> snakes are very hearty I don't want to take a chance if temps are too
>> cold. We will look at shipping week after next. I also need your phone
>> number for the shipping label. The is also the matter of the additional
>> paypal fee of $7.00. Normally I wouldn't be concerned about it but you're
>> already getting $25.00 off the snake and 10 off shipping.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Stu
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPad
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 23, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Jeffery Lockman <
>> jefferylockman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Either is fine. The second looks brighter by a few shades but it may
>> just be the picture. The brightest and most docile of the 2 would work just
>> fine with me.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Monday, December 23, 2013 6:34 AM, Jeffery Lockman <
>> jefferylockman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> You can wait until after Christmas if you think it would be best. I
>> live in a rural area so it is very difficult to get on time delivery with
>> fedex or usps. They will either say they can't find my address, or report
>> no one was home when they attempted to deliver but never even drive by my
>> house as it is in a rural area. I have had best results with overnight
>> shipping usps. I know the carrier will not take responsibility for any
>> delays so with that being said I can't take responsibility on a loss
>> shipped by either carrier as I know how they have been numerous times in
>> the past. There are no house numbers but only addresses assigned by 911.
>> >> My assigned physical address is:
>> >>
>> >> John Pennington
>> >> 16478 Deep Water Mnt. Rd.
>> >> Deep Water, WV 25057
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Monday, December 23, 2013 12:28 AM, Stuart Tennyson <
>> stuart.tennyson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Thank you for your payment. Here are pictures of 2 I have available.
>> They are both feeding on frozen thawed unscented pinks. I recommend
>> waiting until after the holidays but if you want me to ship tomorrow I can
>> but will have to take responsibility. I need to know ASAP.
>> >> <photo 1.JPG>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> <photo 2.JPG>
>> >>
>> >>
 
Old 12-28-2013, 10:10 AM   #24
StuTennyson
sorry its all backwards but you can follow by the dates....
 
Old 12-28-2013, 10:30 AM   #25
Chris Kennard
After reading all of that I wouldn't do business with either one of you. You should have sent pics. You refused him over seven dollars. Both of you seem difficult here and you acted just as puerile calling him "little man". You had his money, you should have sent his snake.
 
Old 12-28-2013, 11:50 AM   #26
hypnoctopus
I understand being frustrated by people asking for pictures and then not hearing anything more from them, but if I'm interested in a specific animal, I definitely want to see pictures of it before I hand out any money.
 
Old 12-28-2013, 12:17 PM   #27
StuTennyson
You're right! I never should have stooped to his level of name calling. Most who know me know that is not my MO. I was just very frustrated at this point. I had given in to all his requests and just wasn't going to do any moe. Besides I gave an immediate refund so there should not have been a problem after that. I knew I would get flak over that comment but I wanted to put it all on the table, good and bad. BTW I had good pics posted on my ads and my FB site.
 
Old 12-28-2013, 04:10 PM   #28
Chris Kennard
Quote:
Originally Posted by StuTennyson View Post
You're right! I never should have stooped to his level of name calling. Most who know me know that is not my MO. I was just very frustrated at this point. I had given in to all his requests and just wasn't going to do any moe. Besides I gave an immediate refund so there should not have been a problem after that. I knew I would get flak over that comment but I wanted to put it all on the table, good and bad. BTW I had good pics posted on my ads and my FB site.
I stand corrected. I commend you for this stand up post.
 
Old 12-28-2013, 05:21 PM   #29
David Reid
If you want me to pay the 3% fee, for YOU to get paid, you are delusional. It is against Paypal's terms, and it makes you look cheap. I think the original poster hurt himself just as much as the guy he was making a bad guy thread about. Lame, both of you.

Dave
 
Old 12-28-2013, 05:46 PM   #30
Bobby Douglass
Quote:
Originally Posted by StuTennyson View Post
>> >> Its not the $7 but rather the principal of the entire deal. Paypal
>> deducted $7 from your $200 payment but I will absorb that fee and send you
>> $200 back.
It's clear you don't understand how Paypal works, but why were you willing to take a $7 loss here but refused to send the snake without the $7 fee? Also you need to do what's best for the animals you're shipping. Regardless of when a customer wants it shipped you should have better sense than to ship during the holidays. Instead of telling him to check his temps as the shipper that's your job. It just seemed like a terrible transaction by both of you.
 

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