Adam Block

Hello, Since no one has replied I will tell my story. spam_I decided to breed some rats to help out on the grocery bill. I started on a rack system and found Adam Block's ad on Kingsnake sipper tubes for $1.00 a piece. I e-mailed 2 times for availability and sent $50.00 Money Order Aug.10th (he said to allow 2 weeks after receipt of the money order). Labor Day Weekend I e-mailed for status of order(do not have this e-mail)He replied that I should receive order by the end of the week well no tubes. E-mailed again around the 7th or 8th of Sep I got reply the 11th spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ (Sorry it took me so long to get back to you I've been having some troubles
with my email. spam_I think they were shipped but give me a day and I'll let you
know for sure. spam_Just to remind me what type did you get?

Thanks a lot,
Adam Block) spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ I e-mailed the info he asked for and told him I was not happy with the service I was getting from him. He e-mailed me on the 13th his reply was;;
(Well, I am sorry for the trouble. spam_There was a delay in me even getting your
money order and that's been the hold up. spam_My wife thought that they were
already shipped to you and discarded your address. spam_I again very sorry for
the trouble, I can keep on top of the snake shipping but she handles
everything else and with three kids sometimes ends up forgetting or loosing
track. spam_Send your address again please and they'll go out today.

Thanks a lot
Adam)
So after telling me twice they were shipped,he did not even have my address and it was my fault because the money order had been delayed supposedly. Well I sent my address again asking politely that he e-mail me when he shipped.Now it is the 21st and guess what no sipper tubes and he will not reply to e-mails all this BS for $50. So now my question is what should I do next?? Hope this all makes sense my typing can not keep up with my thoughts!
Thank You for listening
Ken Town

Well first off let me start by saying I am totally unfamilliar with this " Adam Block " person, but the first thing you should do you have already done and that is posting on the BOI to let other people know how this person does business.  I would like to see his side of the story and see what he has to say so you may want to email him and let him know you have posted about him and his business practices.  Honestly to lose sleep over $50 .... not me but money is money and it's good to know who not to send it to.  In my opinion the best watering system is made by freedom breeders and even if this does not work out you will still need a watering system for your rodents, and I guarantee you won't have this problem with them.  I wish you the best of luck .

Gary Walsch
Sunshine State Reptiles

Well,
    I think he IS probably reading your e-mails, so I would e-mail him and tell him that you had no choice but to post bad guy posts about him on every site you know of, he then maybe will in turn to save face contact you and make up another lame excuse, or go the other way and you are just out fifty bucks!   I would also e-mail him every day and remind him how unhappy you are.  We got our watering system from Bush Herpological, but they are no longer in business.
     My recommendation would be AGSelect their web address is www.agselect.com, and we have found that they are cheaper and better all around than Bush.  I have never dealt with freedom breeder, so I know nothing of them.
&nbsp; &nbsp;I hope this helps you out a little. <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

There are also fraud reports you can file...hopefully someone will post who knows of all these different avenues to take. &nbsp;I know they are available but I don't know how to access them. &nbsp;I know for sure you're not just stuck emailing him & hoping something happens. &nbsp;In fact, I believe K-snake has a fraud dept. &nbsp;maybe you could start there.

good luck,
rip-offs suck,
Steve Himes

You will find some helpful links at:

http://market.kingsnake.com/complaint.php

Good luck! &nbsp; <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

Don't forget mail fraud. It's illegal to use the u.s.p.s for fraudulent services. By his receiving the payment thru the p.o. he's accepted their terms of service as well. Email him, letting him know your giving him a week to make good on the delivery. Let him know that if you haven't received either a return payment or the products you purchased you'll be reporting him to his local police dept who will investigate and possibly turn him over to FBI for breaking federal laws. If after a week has gone by and no response contact his local police dept and give them his name address and phone number, letting them know he's obtaining money using the p.o under fraudelent purposes. Good luck! Gina

Hello all, Thanks for information. I e-mailed Adam and told him I had posted on this forum to give him a chance to tell his side of the story(I would like to hear it also). I also gave him until next Sat. to get something done or I would file fraud charges. I wish he would just be an adult and fulfill his part of the deal. Thanks again all the information I received was very useful.
Ken Town

WHAT A JOKE!! &nbsp;I endorse this forum and don't even read it. &nbsp;I had to find out this was posted from a friend loaclly who called and told me.

First off, I never told you the delay was your fault. &nbsp;I only mentioned there was a delay and you assume it was your fault when in fact it was mine. &nbsp;You didn't mention the day you sent it and I don't check my PO Box unless there's a need. &nbsp;By the Time you mentioned it 10 days (give or take) had gone by. &nbsp;To be hoenst with you I've bitten off way more then I can chew right now and my main worry has been making sure my hatchlings are healthy and shipped healthy and alive. &nbsp;Shipping those has been my main effort. &nbsp;All things made harder with three kids two of them under 2 and planning for a 2000 mile cross country move.

In any event, I'm 100% to blame here and maybe I should just stick to snakes and leave the dry goods alone. &nbsp;I live way the heck out and FedEx picks up, the post office doesn't.

As a side note, I've always said the BOI is a great thing and tell everybody to check it. &nbsp;While I think it will tip you off to the Rainwaters of the world I doubt how useful it really is. &nbsp;If you don't know the person being mention what good is what you have to say? &nbsp;I think you may want to keep the gossip and opinions to yourself. &nbsp;People love to talk about others and assume but that isn't a good thing when you don't know who or what you're talking about.

Thanks to all who know me and have done business with me for comments and to those of you that don't, oh well, take a guess right, it's only somebodies reputation. &nbsp;I can see why so many of the known, quality breeders are against this board, guess it's time for me to join the ranks.

What known, quality breeders are against this board, and where have they declared this? spam_As always, I am not a snake person and not privy to the movements of the snake community, but I have not neard of any well known breeders (except the Dan Biffield and Stanley Whitt kind of well known) who have voiced opposition to this board.

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Well gee adam
I do not see where anyone besides Ken says anything bad about you.
I read and read and read....can you show me where anyone BESIDES Ken says anything bad about you?

The only thing that was remotely close to saying something bad about you is this
--Don't forget mail fraud. It's illegal to use the u.s.p.s for fraudulent services. By his receiving the payment thru the p.o. he's accepted their terms of service as well

Everyone else and everything they have said so far was to offer advice on what steps he can take. spam_And to tell him they want to hear both sides of the story.

Calm down and humble yourself
Statements like this won't help you
--I can see why so many of the known, quality breeders are against this board, guess it's time for me to join the ranks.

If you make a statement like that
1. spam_You gotta show us the quotes or the forum in which they said this.
2. spam_I know a quite few QUALITY breeders who frequent this place.
3. I could go on and on but why....................



Again.......no one said anything bad about you escept the original poster.
And if they did...point it out to me...maybe I am blind