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02-22-2006, 01:53 PM
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Here's one of the reasons why SPAM cannot be blocked....
I got this email (SPAM) recently that kind of points out the problem with why SPAM is so difficult to block effectively:
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Botnet Servers
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Multiple Ips that changes every 10 minutes (not SBL)
Excellent ping and uptime
100% uptime guarantee
Basic server spec:
100 mb shared pipe . P4 2.8Ghz up, 512Mb RAM up, 40G HDD up
Price - $1700/mo
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China
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Dedicated BP server pricing:
Normal bulletproof hosting: $1290/mo
Adult bulletproof hosting: $1380/mo
Direct emailling with 30 fresh IPs: $1490/mo
Basic server spec:
with 950GB/Mo transfer in a 100mb shared pipe. P4 2.0Ghz up, 512Mb RAM up,
40G HDD up
Shared normal bulletproof hosting:
100mb space: $199/mo)
200mb space: $219/mo)
300mb space: $239mo)
500mb space: $259/mo)
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Korea (low complaints)
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Dedicated BP server pricing:
Normal bulletproof hosting- $1600/mo
Basic server specs:
100mb shared pipe. P4 2.4Ghz up, 512Mb RAM up, 40G HDD up
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Hong Kong
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Dedicated BP server pricing:
Normal bulletproof hosting- $1500/mo
Basic server spec:
100mb shared pipe. P4 2.4Ghz up, 512Mb RAM up, 40G HDD up
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Thailand
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Dedicated BP server pricing:
Normal bulletproof hosting- $1600/mo
Basic server spec:
100mb shared pipe. P4 2.4Ghz up, 512Mb RAM up, 40G HDD up
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Japan
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Dedicated BP server pricing:
Normal bulletproof hosting- $1600/mo
Basic server spec:
100mb shared pipe. P4 2.4Ghz up, 512Mb RAM up, 40G HDD up
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The spammers go to these offshore hosts so there are no restrictions on what they use the servers for. And why would a server need to change IP addresses every 10 minutes except to dodge the blocks at ISPs? These sort of servers are likely even used as safe havens for people spawning virus programs and Denial of Service attacks.
Yeah, companies are in BUSINESS to provide this service to people would wish to engage in those kinds of practices.
IMHO...... 
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02-22-2006, 04:08 PM
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It sucks that there are actually companies that make a business out of providing the means to do nothing but annoy the hell out of the entire internet community. From the looks of those hosting costs though they're making a killing and that's why they are there.
Those hosting costs also tell you something else, the spammers are obviously making money from the spam or they could not afford to use the host. $1700 a month? Thats' a huge amount of money.
So it's the percentage of the internet users who are stupid enough to click on the links and even buy the products from the spam that's giving them a reason to continue.
Myself, if anything is advertised to me with spam then I absolutely refuse to even click on the link from the email let alone consider giving them any money. It's like telemarketers, if they call me trying to sell me something I never asked for it's a guarantee I will never buy anything from that company.
If people would just stop supporting them they'd be forced to go away.
As a side note, the Spam Assassin program you have on your hosting server is quite effective, as far as any such blocker can be I suppose. It grabs probably 95% of the spam I am sent before it ever reaches my inbox.
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02-22-2006, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by WebSlave
I got this email (SPAM) recently that kind of points out the problem with why SPAM is so difficult to block effectively:
The spammers go to these offshore hosts so there are no restrictions on what they use the servers for. And why would a server need to change IP addresses every 10 minutes except to dodge the blocks at ISPs? These sort of servers are likely even used as safe havens for people spawning virus programs and Denial of Service attacks.
Yeah, companies are in BUSINESS to provide this service to people would wish to engage in those kinds of practices.
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So thats why I keep getting those junk mails touting the latest version of some sort of herbal viagra which is "legal every where".
Sad thing is these hosting companies are making a killing by doing nothing but annoying us. Or allowing others the means to be very annoying. 
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02-22-2006, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Clay Davenport
Myself, if anything is advertised to me with spam then I absolutely refuse to even click on the link from the email let alone consider giving them any money. It's like telemarketers, if they call me trying to sell me something I never asked for it's a guarantee I will never buy anything from that company.
If people would just stop supporting them they'd be forced to go away.
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I'm the same way. I just can't understand the stupidity (well, actually I can) of people who even click on those links. I don't care how cheap or whatever, something is I'm not going to buy it by clicking a link from an e-mail that you don't even know where or whom it came from. Even more I hate the companies that seem legitimate, yet belong? to these kind of spammers, or pay these kinds of spammers to advertise. From that point on I refuse to do business with them even if they have a legitimate product/service.
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