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Old 07-07-2007, 06:08 PM   #11
Wolfy-hound
Puppytoes, if you are going to call the OP allessandro a liar, do it in plain english. So far he's answered a TON of questions, which some folks continue to RE-ask, apparently ignoring the answers which ahve been given already.
Again, line-breeding 4th cousins is not inbreeding. It has nothing to do with brother-sister breeding. It's not even 4th cousins.. it's fourth cousins 3 generations removed. Yes they are related, but then so are all humans if you want to go there. At some point nearly every morph was a single or a very small group. This includes color mutations.
The line breeding is not really a concern since it's been stated how far apart the pairings have been. To continue to state it's in-breeding and referance "breeding you to your sister" is false and misleading.
The continued referance to human breeding, especially stating Down's Syndrome children shouldn't breed, is also not relevant to the discussion, which is SUPPOSED to be about Silkbacks and their husbandry and origins.
If you don't LIKE a new morph or mutation, just say that. There's a lot of people who despise albino ball pythons, and they have every right to say they don't like them. But try to stick to facts.
The questions about "Well you haven't stated the long-term effects of this mutation" is also moot. They don't know, because they haven't gotten that far. I'm sure that the first pastel ball python has it's detractors too.
The physical possibilty that it has physical difficulties is the valid point. Can a bearded dragon without scales live in a fairly normal environment and bask, and eat, and grow, and breed? So far the answers seem to be yes from allessandro. He keeps all his dragons at a lower basking temp, so we won't know if the silkback can also be kept at the higher temps that U.S. dragons are commonly kept at. Not until someone keeps them at that temp to see.
Folks keep saying that the breeders are not biologists, and are not geneists(sp?), well... neither are 99% of the reptile breeders out there.
The adeno debate still has nothing to do with the silkback husbandry. Unless you are asking if the silkbacks have been tested themselves, it has nothing to do with this thread. OR it shouldn't. Past actions from someone that is affliated with the OP has nothing to do with silkback husbandry.
I'd really like to see a thread stay on topic long enough to get more information that everyone says they want. Of course, I'd also like to see a thread where questions are not re-asked after being answered and where folks ignore the facts stated by people who have the animals in hand.
It may be that the keratin is being processed perfectly by all of the dragon's body EXCEPT the skin. Maybe their livers will shut down at age 3 years. We don't know. We might find out, if we can keep an open discussion.
Theresa
 
 


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