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Old 04-08-2008, 01:50 PM   #11
KJUN
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Originally Posted by Keith Northrop
assume this is about Texas??? Since when does Texas Laws ever apply out side of Texas??? Antarctica, Africa, North America? With Non-game pemits covering native venomous. It would only seem logical Non native venomous would be covered by the Exotic permit. That's Non native to "Texas" Not
South Florida...HaHa...Besides this would leave the group of Venomous USA indigenous in a void??? Unregulated.....
Actually, I'm not sure what you are trying to say, but the intent of the law - according to what I have been told by the "big guys" at TPWD is "exotic to the US." Not just exotic to Texas. You need it for a cobra, but not a red rattlesnake. Rd rattlesnakes are not regulated under this Texas permit. TPWD doesn't have the authority to regulate exoticsUNLESS there is a special law about it...and THIS particular law was intended to only apply to venomous NOT found within these United States naturally.

KJ
 
Old 04-08-2008, 02:15 PM   #12
Tim Cole
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Originally Posted by KJUN
Actually, I'm not sure what you are trying to say, but the intent of the law - according to what I have been told by the "big guys" at TPWD is "exotic to the US." Not just exotic to Texas. You need it for a cobra, but not a red rattlesnake. Rd rattlesnakes are not regulated under this Texas permit. TPWD doesn't have the authority to regulate exoticsUNLESS there is a special law about it...and THIS particular law was intended to only apply to venomous NOT found within these United States naturally.

KJ
Exactly!
 
Old 04-08-2008, 11:06 PM   #13
Keith Northrop
That doesn't sound Kosher.....

That makes No sense........To leave such a loophole........KJUN Who are these Big Boys at TPW that you spoke with???? HaHa
 
Old 04-19-2008, 02:39 AM   #14
chuck_33
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Originally Posted by Tim Cole
Antarctica, Africa, North America? The way it was written before TP&W put it's spin on it, it was indicated to apply ONLY to snakes non-indigenous to the USA.
TP&W cannot change the law.
Tim where can one find the law as written before TP&W put their spin on it??

Chuck
 
Old 04-20-2008, 01:19 PM   #15
Tim Cole
Here you go...

This link takes you to the original HB 1309 where it does say "indigenous to the country"...
Hb 1309

This is an exerpt from HB 12 which it was added to.

"SUBCHAPTER V. NONINDIGENOUS SNAKE PERMIT
Sec. 43.851. PERMIT. (a) The commission by rule shall establish permits that allow permit holders to possess or transport in this state a live nonindigenous:
(1) venomous snake; or
(2) constrictor that is one of the following:
(A) African rock python, Python sebae;
(B) Asiatic rock python, Python molurus;
(C) green anaconda, Eunectes murinus;
(D) reticulated python, Python reticulatus; or
(E) southern African python, Python natalensis.
(b) The commission shall establish separate permits for recreational and commercial purposes.
(c) A permit under this subchapter is not required for:
(1) a state or county official performing an official "

Notice, it does not set the parameters.
 
Old 04-20-2008, 10:32 PM   #16
Keith Northrop
That changes Nothing! If you take the.....

context of the paragraph you will conclude that "Country" is Indicative to "State". we are talking Texas Law.
 
Old 04-21-2008, 12:06 AM   #17
Tim Cole
You are ASSUMING

and you know where that will get you. Contrary to what most Texans think, Texas is a State not a Country! LOL
 
Old 04-21-2008, 03:23 AM   #18
chuck_33
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Originally Posted by Keith Northrop
context of the paragraph you will conclude that "Country" is Indicative to "State". we are talking Texas Law.
Yes we are talking about state law. HOWEVER in the state law it says 'country' in black and white in 1309 which failed. HB 12 has passed so far and does not say from where. I'm with Tim on this, coule be fought in court. Is it our fault the guy who wrote this got a 'D' in his English Composition class in college???I'm not going to argu with a loop hole the size of Texas, Just relish in it.....

Chuck
 

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