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Old 04-05-2005, 12:57 AM   #11
Wilomn
My guess would be coastal. But there is quite a bit of similarity.

Which is it?
 
Old 04-05-2005, 01:03 AM   #12
reptilebreeder
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Originally Posted by Stevefromsd
If you had to guess, does this look more like a Coastal or Whitewater?
a coastal whitewater
 
Old 04-05-2005, 01:11 AM   #13
pch101
It could be a Hemet local Coastal, or even another. It could also be a Whitewater. It is really hard to say. Can you post a pic that shows the side a little better. Whitewaters will often have very fine dark edging between the pink and the blue-grey, and this is most obvious on their sides. This can be seen best in Wilomn's 3rd pic that he posted.

Again Whitewaters sometimes look very much like Coastals, and other times just like Deserts. Whitewaters are thought to be intergrades between the two subspecies since their range is found in the center of what would be the intergrade zone between the two different subspecies. So when you say Whitewater or Coastal from the pic, I would remind you that it could look very much like both and it actually does.

Either way it is literally impossible to tell exactly what you have for sure without specific and complete history that would need to trace back to the original Wild collected stock that from which it came. Anyway, from that one pic, I am leaning toward the Hemet Coastal, but that is just a hunch, and not at all definite. That being said it is a really nice Rosy!
 
Old 04-05-2005, 01:37 AM   #14
reptilebreeder
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Originally Posted by pch101
It could be a Hemet local Coastal, or even another. It could also be a Whitewater. It is really hard to say. Can you post a pic that shows the side a little better. Whitewaters will often have very fine dark edging between the pink and the blue-grey, and this is most obvious on their sides. This can be seen best in Wilomn's 3rd pic that he posted.

Again Whitewaters sometimes look very much like Coastals, and other times just like Deserts. Whitewaters are thought to be intergrades between the two subspecies since their range is found in the center of what would be the intergrade zone between the two different subspecies. So when you say Whitewater or Coastal from the pic, I would remind you that it could look very much like both and it actually does.

Either way it is literally impossible to tell exactly what you have for sure without specific and complete history that would need to trace back to the original Wild collected stock that from which it came. Anyway, from that one pic, I am leaning toward the Hemet Coastal, but that is just a hunch, and not at all definite. That being said it is a really nice Rosy!
James, that's what I said . Well, the 3 word sentence version
 
Old 04-05-2005, 01:59 AM   #15
pch101
Ya, I just caught that. Again, we are right on the same page. Mine is just much longer today.
 
Old 04-05-2005, 02:02 AM   #16
pch101
John, Are you working with Rosy Boas? If so, drop me an e-mail and tell me about what you have.
 
Old 04-07-2005, 05:43 AM   #17
reptilebreeder
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Ya, I just caught that. Again, we are right on the same page. Mine is just much longer today.
yeah, I just took the readers digest route. Your answer is much better, especially for any members really wanting to know the situation with Rosies and whitewater.

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John, Are you working with Rosy Boas? If so, drop me an e-mail and tell me about what you have.
I finally let my CA native breeders permit expire two years ago, so no longer have any native stuff. All I have are some mid-baja Rosies. I like the AZ chocolates, but don't have any more of those either. There was a post (I can't find it right now) where someone said they had 20 something (or maybe it was even 30 something) Rosy Boas, was that you? (never mind that ?, checked your website. Duh) Just wondered after seeing your other photos. Nice stuff, let me know if you are going to have anything available this year.
 
Old 04-07-2005, 09:50 AM   #18
pch101
I sure hope so. The Trivs are breeding like rabbits. I should at least get some of them. But I may also get some AZ Chocolates, unicolors, San Felipes Whitewaters, Ww amels, Snows, Anerys, and various hets. I am keeping my fingers crossed
 
Old 04-07-2005, 05:48 PM   #19
reptilebreeder
Cool, keep me updated. I'd like to get some more chocolates and I'm becoming interested in those snows, unicolors, and maybe Anerys.
 
Old 04-12-2005, 01:09 AM   #20
Stevefromsd
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Originally Posted by pch101
It could be a Hemet local Coastal, or even another. It could also be a Whitewater. It is really hard to say. Can you post a pic that shows the side a little better. Whitewaters will often have very fine dark edging between the pink and the blue-grey, and this is most obvious on their sides. This can be seen best in Wilomn's 3rd pic that he posted.

Again Whitewaters sometimes look very much like Coastals, and other times just like Deserts. Whitewaters are thought to be intergrades between the two subspecies since their range is found in the center of what would be the intergrade zone between the two different subspecies. So when you say Whitewater or Coastal from the pic, I would remind you that it could look very much like both and it actually does.

Either way it is literally impossible to tell exactly what you have for sure without specific and complete history that would need to trace back to the original Wild collected stock that from which it came. Anyway, from that one pic, I am leaning toward the Hemet Coastal, but that is just a hunch, and not at all definite. That being said it is a really nice Rosy!

It does have that dark edging between the pink and the blue-grey. I bought it to breed as a Coastal but she will probably only be a pet.
 

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