How do I take back my credits from Alex Hue？

Originally Posted by critical bill

Whats amazing to me is that Alex Hue has far exceeded Chris Johnson in terms of the amount of money he ripped of from his customers, and yet there is only 10 pages (369 posts) on the slimy scumbag.

With the Johnson scenario, we all chipped in to establish a means to bring him to justice. Although not successfully, we did bring our "A" game to the table to see what we could do to help our fellow herpers who got burned by his scam.

I feel as though we let our foreign herper freinds down. There isn't much they can do thousands of miles away from the states. I wish there were something we could get involved with together to provide these folks with a means to find some restitution.

Hue, just shouldn't be able to just slip away so easily.

That is the problem exactly , if i would live in the USA i would have driven to mr alex and colect the monney myself , however i live in europe wich makes me unable to do so.

i do hope that he gets cought or somthing since he is living of our hard earned money but i guess that wil never hapen since there are still some people that believe that alex is a good guy ..... whoever thinks that still is either cross sighted or with self interest in alex.

( i have to work about 2 weeks to earn 750 dollar and since this debacle took place just before last christmas wich made it even worse since i had nothing to give to my girl ( no geckos no gifts ) )

ah wel i hope that alex chokes on a piece of turkey wich he bought with my money then atleast i would have had a laugh... ( i know its not nice to say but this is just the way i feel about a scumbag that is called Alex Hue ).

also him using the excuse that his mother was / is / got sick is just disrespectful for his mom ( that he uses her illness to steal money ) i hope she reads this.

alex if you read this karma is a hard thing it will come to bite you someday.

Richard van Vondel

Has anyone thought of contacting his Domain hosting service and have his site/domain name canceled due to Fraud. Be srue to point them to this site as evidence.

Registrant:
AHR

514 sunvalley ct se
Grand rapids, Michigan 49548
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: ALEXHUEREPTILES.COM
Created on: 19-Dec-02
Expires on: 19-Dec-10
Last Updated on: 02-Dec-08

Administrative Contact:
Hue, Alex info@alexhuereptiles.com
AHR
514 sunvalley ct se
Grand rapids, Michigan 49548
United States
+1.6168355405

Technical Contact:
Hue, Alex info@alexhuereptiles.com
AHR
514 sunvalley ct se
Grand rapids, Michigan 49548
United States
+1.6168355405

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.REPTILERELATED.COM
NS2.REPTILERELATED.COM

Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

Has anyone thought of contacting his Domain hosting service and have his site/domain name canceled due to Fraud. Be srue to point them to this site as evidence.

Registrant:
AHR

514 sunvalley ct se
Grand rapids, Michigan 49548
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: ALEXHUEREPTILES.COM
Created on: 19-Dec-02
Expires on: 19-Dec-10
Last Updated on: 02-Dec-08

Administrative Contact:
Hue, Alex info@alexhuereptiles.com
AHR
514 sunvalley ct se
Grand rapids, Michigan 49548
United States
+1.6168355405

Technical Contact:
Hue, Alex info@alexhuereptiles.com
AHR
514 sunvalley ct se
Grand rapids, Michigan 49548
United States
+1.6168355405

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.REPTILERELATED.COM
NS2.REPTILERELATED.COM

Hello Thank you for this idea i will do so immediitly and claim his website for the costs that he still owes me ( if that is possible )

Richard van Vondel

Originally Posted by dreamgeckos

Hello Thank you for this idea i will do so immediitly and claim his website for the costs that he still owes me ( if that is possible )

Richard van Vondel

I really hope you can get your money back Richard, as well as the other people Alex has scammed. He shouldn't be allowed to get away with this!

Originally Posted by Abby

I really hope you can get your money back Richard, as well as the other people Alex has scammed. He shouldn't be allowed to get away with this!

Hello Abby, thank you for your support on this matter , i also hope that i will get my monney back but i do not see that happening in the near future.

i am going to mail Godaddy.com to let them know that Alex hue is a fraud and that he hase used and still uses his website to fraud people.

i will also put a claim on his website since he still owes me 750 dollars hence if i can get his domain name from him i can put a new frontpage on that url stating alex is a fraud.

Greetz
Richard van Vondel

PS some help would be apreciated as in how to wright a good email to godaddy since english is not my native toung i could use some help with that.

If you will notice the domain servers listed you will note that the domain name listed there (reptilerelated.com) is also owned by Alex. Which means he is most likely leasing his own server and is not actually hosting through GoDaddy. They are likely merely his domain name host. This method of name server utilization is very common with leased or co-hosted servers.

It would not surprise me in the least if you find that all of his reptile related websites have been completely abandoned by him and are only up now because he prepaid the fees in advance.

Originally Posted by WebSlave

If you will notice the domain servers listed you will note that the domain name listed there (reptilerelated.com) is also owned by Alex. Which means he is most likely leasing his own server and is not actually hosting through GoDaddy. They are likely merely his domain name host. This method of name server utilization is very common with leased or co-hosted servers.

It would not surprise me in the least if you find that all of his reptile related websites have been completely abandoned by him and are only up now because he prepaid the fees in advance.

That is true but his Domain name is still being hosted from godaddy directed by the name servers to his leased server. If godaddy is aware an account from them is involved in fraud they can expire the domain and not release it for renewal with another company.

Alex Hue........this scammer who had disappeared for a long time, But perhaps he was still pay attention to this forum. Hey, Ales, Are you alive? Come on, give me a reply. Where are you?

I just hope that someone will not be cheated again.

Now I just want to state up front here, that I am not normally inclined to publicize much of my private business matters with others, but based on the unfolding events concerning Alex Hue, I think the details of his proposed purchase of my business are bizarre enough that I should make an exception in this case.

This all starts off with Alex first approaching me about buying FaunaClassifieds.com for a client out of the country. I was non-committal, and told him to just tell his client to make me an offer substantial enough to get my attention, and I would consider it. Then Alex asked me about selling SerpenCo to him. There were quite a few phone conversations here and there, but even so, I believe the following emails will pretty much display the overall progression in this negotiation.

----- Original Message -----
From: Alex @ AHR
To: 'Rich Zuchowski'
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 2:32 AM
Subject: RE: SerpenCo


Hey Rich!

Went to visit my mom for Thanksgiving.

Nope didnt forget at all.....actually have been thinking about it myself.

The reason why it came up in our last conversation is......( please keep this to yourself ).......I've got a really good customer in the UK who's now wanting to be my "partner" over there, the plan which is in the works now...is to open up a facility there, they've always had a over demand and no supply issue. We've already acquired property, buildings, and even a retail storefront. If everything goes as planned....we're hoping to be open ( storefront ) in Feb or March while we take the next 2-3 years to basically build a breeding facility/viable colonies from the ground up.

I'm now shipping stuff over there on a weekly basis for resale and also to stockpile.....this is really putting a huge strain on me with inventory and financially as I only try to produce what I can sell every year and having this extra "burden" is leaving me a bit out in the cold as now I'm supporting my business here and partially supporting another one over there.

My train of thought is, corn snakes are still very viable over there, the market there still has quite the appetite for corn snake cultivars...much more so then here in the USA. When I spoke with my partner over there, it only made sense to produce much more corn snakes in order to support that market there, where as here.....I'm perfectly content with what we are producing and whatever I dont.....you've been great at providing me.

But damn.....what really can be accomplished in 2-3 years? when it took someone like you to accomplish it over a half a lifetime??

***light bulb turns on****
See if I can buy all of Rich's collection...adults, babies, racks, the whole shabam!! Nothing gets better than turnkey.

Plus.......you ARE the guy to see for cornsnakes...no question about it, its a win win for everyone.

Now the big question............whats it all worth? to you? to me?....dont know.

I'm going to call my partner over in the UK right now......rack our brains and see what I come up with, if its okay....I'll call ya after the weekend and pick your brain a little. Heck, with this damned weather up here....I've got no qualms getting on a plane and visiting you for the day !

Thanks Rich,
Alex

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----- Original Message -----
From: Alex @ AHR
To: 'Rich Zuchowski'
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 9:13 PM
Subject: RE: SerpenCo


Hey Rich,

Thats EXACTLY what I was refering too Rich....I know for sure that you've got a great customer base over there in the UK/overseas and the possibilty of me and my partner filling that void is something very exciting to both of us, we've both went through this in our minds and I strongly believe its definitely a win win situation.

He's actually already mentioned visitng us in the USA within a few weeks.

Just for the sake of argument, if we can knock out a few details and put some more thought into this.......what is your ideal exit time frame?

Thanks Rich!

Alex

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----- Original Message -----
From: Alex @ AHR
To: 'Rich Z'
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:58 AM
Subject: RE: adult corns


Hey Rich,

Yuppers....still have the Serpenco deal on the front burner, all I can say at this point is that I cant think of any reason why it isnt a win win situation for everyone involved.....I've been talking with my partner in the UK every couple of days about it, thinking up new things to ask and basically the "rules of engagement" so that nothing we do will leave a sour taste in either parties mouth...for me personally this is one of those deals that absolutely needs to be equally advantageous to both parties, I like ya man......I wouldnt want to jeopardize that in any way form or shape....period. It aint about how low we can buy Serpenco...for me its about how we can come to a amicable resolution.

I sent a email to you a few days ago saying that I had around 60% of the adult corns commited to already......but needed to know if you were willing to part them out or did you want to wait until I had a complete deal ready to go? Either way.....I've got a couple of guys willing to commit to 60% of it now....I'm talking with another customer of mine who will more than likely take the remaining 40% but has yet to give me a firm commitment.

Alex

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex @ AHR"
To: "'Rich Zuchowski'"
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:14 PM
Subject: RE: SerpenCo: Order #1248 notification


Hi Rich,

Best case scenario ( for me ) I would like to have the 2009 production too,
since it will help to offset some of the cost of Serpenco and possibly pay
for all if not most of the moving expenses overseas ( instant income ).

But.....when this all started, I really only had intentions to purchase all
of the founding stock ( ie: adult breeders, hold backs, and future projects
). As I said before, I'm looking at it as a 1-3 year turn around, obviously
we would be able to produce for next season too, for me its still a win win
situation no matter what. Even if I only got all of the founding stock, I
would still only be 6-8 months out before making a return.

I'm not hell bent on any 2009 stock, it's a great "plus" but it isnt a deal
breaker for me. Plus not having the 2009 inventory would possibly lower my
cost anyways ;-)

I've always thought and understood that the 2009 stock is yours to do with
as you pleased, if you sell most/all of it...great! If not...I wouldn't
think twice about buying all of that too. I can go either way...its entirely
your call.

Thanks Rich,
Alex

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----- Original Message -----
From: Alex @ AHR
To: rich@serpenco.com
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:04 AM
Subject: RE: Are you getting my emails?


Hey Rich,

Sorry for the delayed response. Been out of town, got back in yesterday....been trying to catch up ever since.

Please send the list as soon as you can.....I'm excited to see this go forward, hopefully I dont bankrupt myself in the process, LOL.

Alex

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Hue"
To:
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 12:58 AM
Subject: FW: Are you back home yet?


Hey Rich,
unfortunately i'm still in the *****iest city west of the mississippi.

been running home every few days to drop off and pick up clothes.

heathers been GREAT at keeping up with things, gonna have to make it up to her big time.

my mom's up and down. I think a lot of it is in her mind, but how do you tell someone that. shes still feeling run down and has started to refuse to eat. anyways, thanks for asking.

I forwarded all of the numbers to my partner in the uk. i'll actually be seeing him next weekend in hamm. leaving grand rapids on thurs and flying back into indiana on sunday.

my next intention would be to head south for a visit if that's okay with you.

i'll try to give you a call in the next day or so. trying to type on this pc phone is a huge pain.

thanks rich
alex

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----- Original Message -----
From: Alex @ AHR
To: 'Rich Zuchowski'
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: Surplus babies...


Hey Rich...

Man...if you only knew, I've been running pretty ragged.

Came home later monday afternoon......Heather and DJ took me out for a surprise birthday dinner at one of my favorite japanese places around here, got back from that and was quickly shuffled out the door again by my brothers and off to the four winds casino we went.

Back to the damned restaurant today, probably put in another 40hrs this week and pray that my mom decides to sell this damned place.

Everything below sounds good.

Baby corns I'll have to call you abotu later this evening, I just put a call into my UK people to see if we can get these out to them in the next 2-3 days, probably hve you ship straight to omega on my ups or ups account.

Thanks!
Alex

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Hue"
To:
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 11:22 PM
Subject: FW: Surplus babies...


>
> Rich,
>
> The reason it's taking some time is, you wanted to get payment quick.
>
> I don't want to commit unless I have payment first from my partner.
>
> I'm not interested in flipping the bill for these snakes with my own money.Its my partner who wanted these for resale, my only involvement was offering them to him at 10% more than you offered them to me for.
>
> So far I've asked him to wire the funds and had a invoice sent over. I spoke to him about this deal a couple of weeks ago and at the time he wanted them.
>
> I spoke with him again last tuesday and had the invoice sent over to him yesterday. I've not spoken to or heard from him since friday.
>
> Bare with me until monday in the am when I get a chance to call him, they're 5 hrs ahead of us.
>
> hope you and Connie are both doing well, hopefully I haven't added to any needless head to wall banging on your part ;-)
>
> Thanks!
> Alex

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----- Original Message -----
From: Alex @ AHR
To: 'Rich Zuchowski'
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 1:27 AM
Subject: Serpenco / Etc


Hey Rich,

Got some time to give you an update, I dropped off the package you sent to my attorney this morning, she's going to review it and suggest any necessary changes along with filling in some of the blanks. I looked it over and everything seems to be what we discussed. But I'll wait for her to complete her review before I'll know if anything at all needs to be revised.

Spoke and sent my guy in the UK a proposal and purchase/partnership agreement for Serpenco, the time frame for his reply and revision is due by no later than Weds the 6th., I've asked him to have his attorney draft up a letter of intent in regards to the Partnership purchase of Serpenco, he will have that to me by no later than Weds also.

Once I get his letter of intent and my preliminary partnership purchase agreement back, along with any revisions and suggestions my attorney will have, I'll make arrangements for the downstroke along with any other riders, I'm also asking my guy in the UK forward me 50K as part of the downstroke, but that will not effect you since thats between him and I.

I also brought up the 07-08 corns, I'm going to pass on that deal....my guy in the UK wanted a week or so more to try and move some prior to commiting, more of a damn headache than its worth. He's been advertising online and also via word of mouth, but is having a little trouble moving some of the higher end morphs......everybody wants individual pics, weights, hatch dates etc..etc..I guess I can understand.

I hope I covered most of everything, but I'm pretty sure not all of it ;-)

Its been one fast paced non-stop gut wrenching day......did I mention I just remembered early this morning that Heather's birthday was this past 26th?! I sure am damn lucky she didnt want to be reminded she's another year older....LOL Got all of my errands done around 2PM, quick ran out to the "honey, sorry I screwed up store", picked out a few things.....put on my sunday best suit, waited for her to come home from picking up DJ at school......called my brother to watch DJ and out the door we went. Although I will admit....I didnt actually whisk her off her feet right away, instead I did what any romantic guy would do....I took her to sign papers for the new property we're trading for/getting into.....LOL

Then I took her out for dinner, dancing, and a few cocktails....I figured at least the dinner part she'd enjoy since she really doesnt care for dancing or cocktails either way......but I sures the heck enjoyed the cocktail part....LOL

Anyways, I'll check back with you over the weekend and give you any updates as I receive them......I'm off and running back to Indiana again this afternoon ( damn its after midnight already ).

Thanks,
Alex

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Hue"
To:
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 9:46 AM
Subject: update


>
> Hey Rich,
> just a update, my attorney still hasn't received a revised or signed contract from my uk guy.
>
> she's calling his attorney today.
>
> the docs you sent over had a couple of modifications and are signed. she'll get thos over to you for final approval and your signature.
>
> I'm in a catch 22 until I hear back from my uk guy as to what's holding him up.
>
> My attorney won't let me commit to you until my uk guy commits to me due to not having a "exit" clause with the contract betwenn you and I.
>
> hope all that made sense. i'm going to try and buzz you sometime today as soon as it slows down here at the rest.
>
> alex

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex @ AHR"
To: "'Rich Zuchowski'"
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:48 PM
Subject: RE: update


Hi Rich,

Been pretty exhausted these couple of days, got home around 1ish on Monday,
took a "nap" ended up sleeping til just a tad before you called today. My
body feels pretty mangled, like I've been in a 15 round championship bout
that went into over time. I hope its okay I replied via email instead of
calling you back, I'm just not focused enough for a conversation, feeling
kinda slow mentally.

---My attorney had drawn up a additional clause pertaining to deposits and
what would occur with it if a agreement or closing wasn't achieved, that was
what I was refering to when I shot off that email about getting over to you
some papers that needed your approval and signature. I mentioned to to you
that she was sending it out, my mistake, she had wanted to wait until we
received confirmation from my UK guy's attorney/solicitor before sending the
docs to you and Anthony for approval and signatures.

The reasoning for this was because while I was pretty confident my guy in
the UK was coming through, my attorney wasn't. Which is understandable since
my UK guy would ultimately be a partner along with having to raise the
balance of the necessary funds.

My attorney sent off a fax to my UK guys attorney last week Mon or Tues I
believe, in it were a partnership agreement, letter of intent, and a letter
of credit we needed his bank to sign. As of today, I still have not heard a
peep and have not received any type of confirmation.

Problem 1, I have not heard from my UK guy as of today, I still don't know
where I stand, I will be sending him a letter demanding confirmation.

Problem 2, I have just a tad over ***K on hand put aside for the purchase of
Serpenco, this is far from the ***K purchase price. I can probably raise
another ***K on short notice, but this would still only put me around ***K
max I would have available.

Problem 3, time constraints, I know you need to get this wrapped up pretty
quick, mt intentions are still to try and make something work regardless if
my UK guy comes through or not at this point, I have a few ideas but they
would all set you back until Late July or early August. I am not single
handedly able to come up with ***K before that. I'm pretty much living on
fumes right now in a effort to reserve as much cash as possible in a effort
to have as much cash on hand as possible.

I can say for fact that as of right now, I am not personally able to
purchase Serpenco in its entirety by myself, the only way I can go about it
is to give you a larger deposit but ask for a larger allowance in time. I
would also be willing to have my attorney draw up a forfeiture clause if the
time frame I required wasn't met accordingly.

I still have a few skillets on the fire/ back up plans pertaining to this
Serpenco purchase, which would require me to exercise a few other options I
have available with a few other relationships I have overseas. But unless
somebody is ready right this second to sned me over the ***K I need to
finalize this, I'm not interested in stringing you along based on that
criteria.

I hate to ask this, but would you be willing to negotiate the selling price
at all?

Thanks Rich,

Alex

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex @ AHR"
To: "'Rich Zuchowski'"
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:23 PM
Subject: RE: update


Hey Rich,

No worries, no harm no foul.

I have to get a hold of my attorney tomorrow to see what the best route is
with a deposit and the terms that go along with it, obviously a deposit
would entitle both of us to do / not do certain things. For you this would
probably mean holding back / making available those animals that would
otherwise have been sold this year or are no longer in your future plans.
For me, this would mean I'm guaranteeing the completion of this purchase
along with other criteria, my thoughts were to offer up a deposit, larger
than what we originally discussed, but I would also be willing to forfeit
somewhere in the 10%-15% range if this deal doesn't consumate.

Anyways, that was the plain jane version of it.

As for doing business as Serpenco, I wouldn't be able to do business here in
the USA, its not viable for me personally, I just don't have the US based
selling power to back it up, most if not all of my cornsnake sales go
overseas, wholesale/retail or otherwise. I've got a few other relationships
overseas that I'm going to be calling upon, even though it wouldn't directly
affect you or make a difference either way, my direction has somewhat
changed, I'm leaning more towards finding a "investor" in investing with
me...not Serpenco. By going this route, I'm intending to add Serpenco to my
current umbrella and in turn using it as the basis to start a wholly owned
operation in Europe, most likely the UK or Germany. Basically, using
Serpenco, its reputation, and inventory to start a brand new operation
overseas rather than just "moving it".

I'm headed back to the armpit of the world in a couple of hours, you can get
a hold of me on the cellular.

Thanks!
Alex

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Hue"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: update


>
> Hey Rich
>
> I want to apologize wholeheartedly, I just can't come up with that amount anytime soon by myself.
>
> right now I just don't have the drive to go nail down an additional ***k to finalize this.
>
> thanks for the offer, first dibs, and patience.
>
> alex

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Hue"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:14 PM
Subject: RE: You are on the BOI..



Rich,
thanks for the heads up, unfortunately I don't have internet access.

i've been trying to do everything on my cellular and its not working out too well.

hell, we probably won't have acess at home either for a week or so. heather switched us over to comcast cable internet friday but nobody bothered to tell her that we've never had cable pulled into the house, now they gotta get somebody over to pull cables from the street into the house.

by the way, here's our new addy if you ever need it

4280 knapp st ne
grand rapids mi 49525

don't have a number yet. but the old number 6565635 couldn't be ported over.

thanks Rich,

alex

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----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Hue
To: zuchowski
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 8:14 PM
Subject: Fw:


Rich,

Here is the email from my guy in the UK, I wanted you to see it so you knew I wasnt pulling your leg ;-)

I talked with his future wife today, we're still in "talks", I'll let you know how it pans out.

Thanks again,
Alex

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Now, up to this point, I just figured that it was a deal that through no fault of Alex nor myself, just didn't come to pass. Alex got put behind the eightball with his mom's situation, and it appeared that his partner in the UK was being unresponsive.

So after a few months went by and it was apparent that Alex wasn't going to pull out of his tailspin in order to bring this deal back on track, I decided to contact his "partner" in the UK to see if he might be interested in picking up where Alex left off. The following emails were eye opening, to say the least...

----- Original Message -----
From: David Davies
To: zuchowski
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 11:31 PM
Subject: RE: Welsh Reptile Breeders: SerpenCo purchase?


Hi Rich
You have reached Dave Davies, who is quite suprised to hear about any partnership with Alex to purchase Serpenco.
I too have been trying to contact Alex for the past few months, without any success.
Very early this year Alex informed me that he was doing a deal with you and that by June he would own all of your animals. He asked me if I wanted to go into partnership with him in that I would run a UK based branch of his business. It was his intention to ship Corns Ball Pythons Leopard Geckos etc to the UK as breeding stock. The deal was never finalised.
My interest is in the Ball Pythons and I was expecting over 100 different morphs from Alex which I had been waiting over a year for, shame you were not into Ball Pythons.
I am sorry but that is all I am able to tell you. I had even started telling close friends that we would soon be able to have your animals in the UK, I certainly believed what Alex told me.
If you do hear from Alex please ask him to make contact, I am still after a load of Ball Pythons.

Regards

Dave

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From: zuchowski
To: davedavies****@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Welsh Reptile Breeders: SerpenCo purchase?
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:39:52 -0400


Dave,

Interesting.... To say the least. Alex told me that he could not get in touch with YOU, and the reason was because you were in the hospital with a heart attack. His claim is that the deal to buy SerpenCo fell through because YOU did not live up to your end of the deal by providing funding that he needed to complete the transaction. He claims his attorney send your attorney a contract and request for payment, that was not met. He also claimed to already have a substantial controlling financial interest in your business as well. Believe me, I am NOT taking Alex's side in this, and am quite wondering how much of Alex was real and how much was pure BS. He said that ALL of the animals and the brand name "SerpenCo" were going to be shipped to England to be handled by you exclusively in this partnership. He strung me along with that purchase of my company for several months, telling me it was a sure thing, and then about a week or two before the deadline date, sent me a "dear John" email. There is a thread about Alex apparently owing a lot of people money and/or animals on my Board of Inquiry forum on FaunaClassifieds.com. http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=133578

It's quite a long read, but interesting, nonetheless. I haven't posted anything about the failed SerpenCo sale there, however. Mostly because at this point I just don't know how much of it all was just smoke being blown up my butt by Alex.

But in any event, too bad this didn't turn out, because I actually am retiring this year and had hoped to have someone take over SerpenCo to "carry the baton" of sorts. As it stands right now, I expect to sell nearly all the 2008 and 2009 corns I'll be taking to Daytona Beach in a couple of weeks, and then listing the adult corns for sale once I have them out of the way. The goal is to have everything sold and actually begin retirement no later than January 1. I actually had a few people attempt to buy SerpenCo, but apparently they could not get funding from their banks. So I've got to do this the hard way now.

Not sure what really happened to Alex at all. He was telling me he was taking care of his mother's restaurant in Indiana. Also that his marriage was on the rocks. Quite honestly, I really don't know how much, if any, of those stories are really the truth. And I actually thought of Alex as a friend of sorts.... I guess my getting out of this business now is really a good thing to be doing since I've gotten quite fed up with many of the people I've met over the years. Most are just story tellers, it seems, with no real grounding in reality.

Sorry to hear about your ball python deal, and hope you are not out a lot of money you put into them. But the evidence appears to be pointing to Alex Hue having just vanished. I'm not sure if Heather has taken over the business or not, as some people have mentioned that Alex Hue Reptiles will be shipping animals to Hamm next month. Who knows who the heck to believe any longer?

But if you have any more blanks to fill in, I would appreciate it, if for nothing else just to know what really was going on.

Thanks.

Rich Z.

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----- Original Message -----
From: David Davies
To: zuchowski
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:37 PM
Subject: RE: Welsh Reptile Breeders: SerpenCo purchase?


Hi Rich

Thanks for the info, tried to get onto the forum but it would not allow me access. I am amazed to read some of the things Alex told you as it is quite different to what he told me. He did ask me if I was interested in going into partnership with him but we told him that we are breeders and not a commercial entity and as such did not feel in a position to contribute so much financially. Alex then offered to do a deal where he shipped all the animals including Serpenco corns to the UK and we would manage the facility for him, we put a lot of work into looking at premises investigating legislation etc but nothing came of that project. As for Alex sending my attourney a contract that is amazing as I do not have or never have had an attourney. Again I find it amazing to hear that I have suffered a heart attack, as that is also a pack of lies. As for Alex holding a substantial interest in my business that too is amazing, I am a private breeder not a Limited Company and I own all of my animals Alex has no holding in my collection at all.

I do not know if Alex will be shipping to Hamm next month but I will be there and will do everything I can to find out if any of his animals do appear. I know the Americans he uses to ship and also the German breeders who take delivery of his animals, I shall make some enquiries.

I too was told about Alex looking after his mothers restaurant due to her ill health and that his wife would be running his reptile business in his absence. I hope that this situation is nothing more than a misunderstanding on Alex's part as I have always found him to be a great guy. Lets hope he does not prove me wrong.

I wish you every success in your retirement plans and I am sorry that my name has been dragged into this situation. I can assure you that I am an upfront person who keeps any promise I make.

Kindest regards

Dave

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From: zuchowski
To: davedavies****@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Welsh Reptile Breeders: SerpenCo purchase?
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:32:26 -0400


Dave,

Yeah, this is really unfortunate, as I also thought of Alex as a friend. If what took place between Alex and I concerning the sale of SerpenCo, I would certainly think somehow wires got crossed and signals got garbled. But there is apparently a recent history of Alex in relation to other people that can't be ignored. In order to read that thread I provided the link to in my previous email, you simply have to register on FaunaClassifieds. It's no big deal and doesn't cost you anything, but I think that thread I referenced is well worth reading. I may very well have to throw in my two cents (other than the supportive posts I made earlier) when the workload around here decreases. Hopefully that will happen after we get the Daytona Beach show out of the way.

Anyway, Alex went as far as to apparently concoct a bogus email from you so support his story, which is copied below:

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----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Hue
To: zuchowski
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 9:14 PM
Subject: Fw:


Rich,

Here is the email from my guy in the UK, I wanted you to see it so you knew I wasnt pulling your leg ;-)

I talked with his future wife today, we're still in "talks", I'll let you know how it pans out.

Thanks again,
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: David Davies [mailto:davedavies****@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 6:07 PM
To: Alex Hue
Subject:


Hi Alex

We have not contacted you as Dave was taken ill and spent a week in hospital and has since been recovering with almost total rest.

Regards

Tracey & Dave
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It was in a phone conversation that Alex stated that you had had a heart attack, and that was the cause of his not hearing from you for quite a long time. Maybe when I have more time, I'll send you copies of those emails to show how convoluted he made this whole affair. And or what? What reason did he have to do something like this? If he had no real intention of buying SerpenCo, why go through all the motions and make up stories? Quite honestly, when I see something like this, I have to wonder what, if anything, was really the truth that came from the guy...

In any event, thanks for spending the time conversing with me. If you hear anything else pertinent about Alex, I sure would like to hear about it. Just for my own curiosity...

Thanks,

Rich Z.

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----- Original Message -----
From: David Davies
To: zuchowski
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: Welsh Reptile Breeders: SerpenCo purchase?


Hi Rich
That E-mail was indeed sent by Tracey but it was nothing to do with a heart attack. There was however no response to it from Alex which we found strange and a little disappointing. We had not heard from Alex for some months prior to my illness and hoped that sending him notification of it would encourage him to respond.
I will register on Fauna within the next few days and read the thread.

Hope Daytona goes well.

Dave

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----- Original Message -----
From: David Davies
To: zuchowski
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 1:25 AM
Subject: RE: Welsh Reptile Breeders: SerpenCo purchase?


Hi Rich
As far as I am aware Alex was not at Hamm. I spoke to several people about him and found out a few things.
Mark Bell told me that he had purchased a huge number of Ball Pythons of him a couple of months back, this deal had apparently been set up by Bob Ashley, I was disappointed to hear this as I had over 100 animals on hold from last year and had enquired about more than that for this year. Mark also asked me if I was interested in wholesale Corns has he had a lot available.
A good friend of Bob Ashleys a man called Tel Hicks, told me that he had been told that Alex had sold all of his collection and was no longer involved with reptiles. I tried to get to talk with Bob Ashley but failed, I did however see him later in the show with loads of small Bearded Dragons and other bits that he seemed to be distributing to people with pre orders. There were so many people there that I could not get near him.

Sorry I cant be of any more help.

Dave

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So there you have it. What really happened? Beats the heck out of me, but personally I now have doubts about everything that Alex has ever told me.

That was an eye full, that's for sure. Makes you suspect all sorts of things.

Well makes me suspect some things anyway. Quits talking to Rich about the same time Derek shows up, and the guy in the UK on the burner for the BP's, all around the time he's in "negotiation" for Serpenco. Maybe he actually did want Serpenco. Maybe bad enough to swindle some people for some big purchases to round up enough talking money to bring down the cost. Couldn't round up enough, realizes he can't explain this one, and disappears on everyone.

Makes sense in my feeble mind anyway.