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Old 04-05-2008, 04:49 PM   #1
Keith Northrop
Talking Texas Controlled Exotic Snake Permits are.......

Now available at your Local Walmart or anywhere hunting licenses are sold.
If you posses any of the controlled specie I advise getting your permit.
$20 to possess......$60 for Commercial......Later
 
Old 04-05-2008, 04:51 PM   #2
Lucille
Keith, is this the list?

(1) Commercial possession--The possession of a controlled exotic snake for the purpose of sale.

(2) Controlled exotic snake--Any live snake that is:

(A) a venomous snake not indigenous to Texas;

(B) any of the following:

(i) African rock python (Python sebae);

(ii) Asiatic rock python, (Python molurus);

(iii) green anaconda, (Eunectes murinus);

(iv) reticulated python, (Python reticulatus);

(v) southern African python, (Python natalensis); or

(C) a hybrid of any species listed in this paragraph
 
Old 04-05-2008, 04:53 PM   #3
KJUN
Yes, except the cheap permit is for keeping. Those of us with the intent to sale have to buy the slightly more expensive permit!
KJ



Quote:
Originally Posted by lucille
Keith, is this the list?

(1) Commercial possession--The possession of a controlled exotic snake for the purpose of sale.

(2) Controlled exotic snake--Any live snake that is:

(A) a venomous snake not indigenous to Texas;

(B) any of the following:

(i) African rock python (Python sebae);

(ii) Asiatic rock python, (Python molurus);

(iii) green anaconda, (Eunectes murinus);

(iv) reticulated python, (Python reticulatus);

(v) southern African python, (Python natalensis); or

(C) a hybrid of any species listed in this paragraph
 
Old 04-06-2008, 12:28 PM   #4
Keith Northrop
From the Horses Mouth........

NEW STATE PERMIT REQUIRED FOR
POSSESSION/TRANSPORTATION/
SALE OF CERTAIN SNAKES
As mandated by House Bill 12 (80th Texas Legislature), an annual permit for the
possession of certain non-indigenous snake species, including the listed snakes
purchased as pets, is required for recreational or commercial activity involving any
of the following:
• Any venomous snake not indigenous to Texas,
• African Rock Python (Python sebae),
• Asiatic Rock Python (Python molurus),
• Green Anaconda (Eunectes murinus),
• Reticulated Python (Python reticulatus),
• Southern African Python (Python natalensis); and
• Hybrids of the snakes listed above.
AVAILABLE: April 1, 2008
FEES AND ACTIVITIES ALLOWED UNDER PERMIT:
$20.00 – Recreational Controlled Exotic Snake (RCES) Permit (Item 580):
• Allows possession and/or transportation of an unlimited number of snakes, but does not allow sale.
• Sales receipt for purchase of affected snake serves as a 21-day temporary RCES permit for purchaser.
$60.00 – Commercial Controlled Exotic Snake (CCES) Permit (Item 581):
• Allows possession, transportation, and/or sale of an unlimited number of snakes.
• CCES permit required and must be maintained on premises for each permanent place of business.
• Legible copy of CCES permit required on permittee’s person if regulated activity occurs off-site.
• Daily activity log for purchases and sales must be maintained and available for inspections.
The Commercial Controlled Exotic Snake Permit Report (PWD 1195) is available on-line at
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/business/permits/
For controlled exotic snakes imported to Texas by common carrier, a bill of lading shall function as a
temporary permit until the controlled exotic snakes are received by the consignor indicated on the
manifest. For controlled exotic snakes transported through Texas by common carrier, a bill of lading
shall function as a temporary permit during transit.
Permits are available at Texas Parks and Wildlife Department offices and wherever hunting and fishing licenses
are sold (aproximately 1,700 locations). There are no application requirements. For more information, call
(512) 389-4381, 1-800-792-1112 (option 9, then 4381), or go to http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/business/permits/
PENALTIES:
• Penalty for conviction for a violation of CESP rules is a Parks and Wildlife Class C misdemeanor
($25 – $500 fine).
• Penalty for conviction of releasing an affected snake from captivity is a Parks and Wildlife Class A
misdemeanor ($500 – $4,000 fine and/or one year in jail).
Persons convicted of a violation of CESP law may not obtain a permit for five years thereafter.
PWD PR L2000-1551 (2/08)
 
Old 04-06-2008, 12:37 PM   #5
Tim Cole
If you read

the original law as written, it does not define the indigenous parameters, nor does it specifically say for Texas. This could easily be challenged in court.
 
Old 04-06-2008, 01:20 PM   #6
Keith Northrop
Here is the Form needed by all Commercial keepers....

PWD 1195 ........Does this mean if you buy one from me I can't buy it back unless you get a commerical permit????
 
Old 04-06-2008, 01:51 PM   #7
KJUN
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith Northrop
PWD 1195 ........Does this mean if you buy one from me I can't buy it back unless you get a commerical permit????

Exactly...or trade or anything. I assume you may accept it as a bona fide gift, but I'd still have a copy of the owners $20 permit on file along with a receipt saying it was a gift due to the inability of the previous owner to maintain the snake in captivity.
 
Old 04-08-2008, 12:07 PM   #8
Keith Northrop
Talking Tim....."What are you saying?" are you throwing a wrench

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Cole
the original law as written, it does not define the indigenous parameters, nor does it specifically say for Texas. This could easily be challenged in court.
in the Mix. I see from KS you had your permit on April 1? What's left to define?
Non-Indigenous .......A parameter in its self???
 
Old 04-08-2008, 12:15 PM   #9
Tim Cole
Indigenous to where?

Antarctica, Africa, North America? The way it was written before TP&W put it's spin on it, it was indicated to apply ONLY to snakes non-indigenous to the USA.
TP&W cannot change the law.
 
Old 04-08-2008, 01:46 PM   #10
Keith Northrop
Talking Well since it is a State issue, one would

assume this is about Texas??? Since when does Texas Laws ever apply out side of Texas??? Antarctica, Africa, North America? With Non-game pemits covering native venomous. It would only seem logical Non native venomous would be covered by the Exotic permit. That's Non native to "Texas" Not
South Florida...HaHa...Besides this would leave the group of Venomous USA indigenous in a void??? Unregulated.....
 

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