Aline Reptiles - Good Guy

Should I start with Shelly, Toni or Project-jerkoff-is? Hummm, decisions. I think I’ll start with Toni. I can’t claim I came up with that name for you Dennis but I like it better than pardalis, it fits much better.

Now I know who you are Toni. Aren’t you that 80 year old woman who has animals and probably shouldn’t because you are so old you could drop dead at any minute? Well, tell me then if it isn’t Shelly or Lane then who was it? Could it have been Aline perhaps? You see, I knew your buddies(LL/LC) wouldn’t have enough backbone to claim getting that animal to you which is why I brought it up because that left the brown starfish you guys like to kiss that belongs to Kalaam. You just made it much more sweet by adamantly saying it wasn’t them. So, maybe one of you might want to reconsider your response because leaving it open that Kalam doesn’t provide quality animals all the time might not be in your best interst. One more clarification, when you posy on a public forum it become public business. If you don't like people using your posts, don't post and keep the crying to personal emails.

If Project-jerkoff-is had read my post he would have seen that I said that WC Lucifer was way over priced but nowhere did I assign him any grade, A-F. I said that other animal, what you call a Picasso, was B grade at best, especially when he is showing more red than blue in his bars and it only looks like it will get more red. In fact he is such a B grade Ambilobe I thought he was an Ambanja at first. What a great deal you got there, a cheap animal and one that makes you look like a “jerkoff” because you go prancing around like he is something good. As for the WC, consider this, they probably had that animal for maybe a few weeks at the very most and maybe paid $300-350 for him initially at the very most. That means that there was about a 35-50% mark up on him and he isn’t even acclimated, which means you could run into the same problems that Toni is going through, “he isn’t eating or drinking, HELP”. So if you think that was a great deal, I’ve got a slightly used bridge you can have at a good price. I’ll even knock off 25% is you paypal me right now, LOL. As for that animal you got from Ivan, I will say that he was expensive. There are two things to make it worth it though, he is CB and probably won’t die on you unless you mess him up (more than you could say for that WC) and he is the best animal you have by far and it gets even further when you compare Legendcham’s male to him or that WC. Now, since you like to jump into things I’ve got something to share that a few people have told me about you regarding your roach business.

Please Project-jerkoff-is tell me if I am wrong but didn’t you cut out a friend of yours in order to take their place producing roaches for that guy Lucas, California Silkworms? In fact wasn’t it this same friend that actually GAVE you your initial roaches and taught you how to keep them just to be friendly and nice? Wow man, you are one cutthroat SOB. You cut out the person that was nice enough to give you a small colony of roaches and shows you how to raise them and for a buck no less. Maybe you aren’t as cut throat as you boss John for letting this happen but you are a pretty significant piece of slime.

Finally Shelly. When you sell animals at a greatly “discounted” price that end up dying that isn’t considered doing something nice it is called dumping your animals before they die. So you sold him a parasite ridden animal for $50 that is pretty nice of you especially when it is better to get $50 back than zero when she dies. If you were so against selling her why did you? Don’t give me the “he begged me” BS because if you had the animals interest in mind you wouldn't have shipped her in the condition she was in. As for that Ambanja, just give it a little time I am sure we will see another “sad vet visit”. I haven’t seen any new pics of that animal, so maybe he is dead already. The only animal that guy is getting compliments on is that Ambilobe that Ivan had bred. So, basically are you telling me the only animal that is doing well is an animal you haven’t touched? That is very interesting. The female with the eye infection you admit had URI. Again I say to you, if you had the animal’s best interest at heart rather than your wallet you wouldn’t have shipped her and made sure she was better because she obviously wasn’t. As for One Eye, maybe he didn’t want to send him back to “Hotel Death” because he wanted to help the animal and not send him to a death sentence. She was probably so quick to get him back because she probably realized that guy Doug knew what he was looking at and knew that would mean bad news for hers and your name, which it did. All in all you guys dumped some animals that were in poor health or dying and then have the audacity to claim you were trying to give him a deal. Talk about pond scum, eh?

As for the buying and reselling of animals, that is fine but expect to be called a scavenger, scalper or used car sales woman. You have never successfully bred, hatched and grown up animals Shelly so can’t consider yourself a true breeder, you are really just a second rate broker in the very best light. Oh, if you were really getting out of Chameleons why did you buy all those Mitsios? I mean when someone is getting out of something they get rid of or sell whatever interest they have in that particular hobby. Basically, you don't buy more when you are getting out fo something. Another lie perhaps?

Dennis Madson

...Where is Lane? Looks like Mythical Chameleons with their emails to/from her showing that she has been lying have her pretty tied up with the truth. What a shame...

Now I know who you are Toni. Aren’t you that 80 year old woman who has animals and probably shouldn’t because you are so old you could drop dead at any minute? Well, tell me then if it isn’t Shelly or Lane then who was it?

Dennis,

You are 100% out of line. I know Toni personally as she is a customer that comes into our shop at least twice a week. She spends a lot of time, money and energy on her chameleons while working a full time job. I have spent hours discussing with her in detail the keeping of chameleons and part of that discussion has been different techniques used by different chameleon owners. She also purchases chameleons from many different sources, one of which is us. I have also seen (and purchased) the quality of her offspring. Toni posted a question on a forum requesting help and advice with one of her animals and your misuse of that post is only overshadowed by your petty and personal attack of her. This is the type of thing that keeps the chameleon community in the backwoods of herpotology with a very poor level of information and growth.

the "friend" you are talking about that gave me my first few roaches(30-40) is a person i have met once and been to her house another time to pick up the roaches(once to buy a tank from and once to pick up the roaches) and talked to in KS chat off and on, along with a dozen other people that i did the same with for a couple months, hardly some one i would consider a "friend". what you dont know is i had bought roaches from reptyls around the same time. so no that person did not get me started or teach me teach me anything in fact when i pick up the few roaches she gave me she was nowwhee around, her boyfriend gave them to me. so once again you're just spouting off with misinformation! nice try.

dennis

it's funny madson you can only bring up the roach "issue" concerning me as if it was suppose to be a BAD thing with all YOUR MISINFORMATION AND OUTRIGHT LIES. it just so happened i recieved an email recently threatening to expose a story about me if i didn't keep quiet. the roach thing is the best you could come up with?!

below is a copy of the threat i recieved from the sheriff AKA Dennis Madson aparently that isnt your real name either. notice the mention of the mitsos also just as he did with shelly. coincidence, i dont think so!

Dennis


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Tell your butt buddy John to tell his puppet master "Legendcham"
that she is next, I saw those posts from that Madson guy. That combined with the
Jaoack-Asoanas (Nosey Mitsios aka the Jackass Legendcham Panther) fiasco equals
too much. I'm watching and that goes doubly for you and your "Chameleon
Porn" - so tread carefully, I've heard a VERY interesting story about you
I'm sure you wouldn't like me to put my two cents in about.

~The Sheriff


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The ambanja female sold to Doug was hardly half dead. This link to the gallery shows what she looked like when shipped. As far as I know she is still alive. I held on to Silk until satisified she was well healed. When Doug posted pictures of Orion on the gallery he had compliments on the animal. Like it or not - Orin was an incredible ambanja. I agreed to buy Mafanas BEFORE the decision to quit working with panthers. I bought them and will rel-sell them after getting some eggs in the incubator. Does this bother you? To bad. Does this make me evil? Hardly.

Attacking a woman (Tony) you don't even know is pathetic. You don't know her or anyting about her so you make something up. Whatever for? You are one sick dude. Just wondering - you wouldn't happen to go by an alias called The Sheriff would you? Wouldn't expect you to admit it. You two definitely have the same style of writing.

also note the simularity in "madson's" use of calling someone a puppet and the sheriff's use.this is from this thread:

Your puppet Shelly had posted in your defense on a thread I started that was deleted so please don’t try to say you have no idea what I am talking about :

About eye problems: http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=474728,474728 and http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=472563,472563

About dying chameleons you’ve sold: http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=471032,471032

WC you sold that isn’t eating and loosing weight: http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=469355,469355

About having to put down a Chameleon you sold that was FULL of parasites: http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=468306,468306

Well Cracky, deny all this. Sure, you might have whined to the forum moderator to take my posts down on KS but that was to be expected. Kingsnake after all is really just a bubbles and gum drops site anyways and will delete anything that goes against the status quo, I am sure Fauna members can vouch for that. The only problem for you now Lane is that you can’t cry to Webslave to get this buried. So please, try to wiggle or slither out of this one Legendcham because I doubt you can.

Dennis Madson

…As for buying anything from you that would never happen. I don’t deal in B grade animals with parasites.

and this is from the threating email i recieved from the sheriff AKA "Dennis Madson":

Tell your butt buddy John to tell his puppet master "Legendcham"
that she is next, I saw those posts from that Madson guy. That combined with the
Jaoack-Asoanas (Nosey Mitsios aka the Jackass Legendcham Panther) fiasco equals
too much. I'm watching and that goes doubly for you and your "Chameleon
Porn" - so tread carefully, I've heard a VERY interesting story about you
I'm sure you wouldn't like me to put my two cents in about.

~The Sheriff

i can only think of one think of one person that would fight for ivan tooth and nail and also is close to my past "acquaintances". i can only know of one person and he lives in san diego.

matt your sherade as the sheriff and ddmadson are over. what you have done on KS, repeatedly posting after being banned and harassing members of the chameleon forum and then private emails to me is a crime called cyber stalking and have already been reported to the san diego police department who just happen to have a cyber crimes division. you may be able to hide from KS but it's over now! thanks for all your help!!

Dennis

Well, what can I say other than it is about time. I have been dropping hints and clues that even Inspector Gadget would have picked up on for over a month and you guys finally figure it out. In fact, I was so sure that you guys were dumber than I expected that I was going to start signing my posts Dennis “The Sheriff” Madson. So, Jerkoff-is you, or should I say Lane isn’t as smart as you thought. The real piece of evidence that I figured you guys should have picked up on was the Dennis “there is no I in” Madson as I had posted a few weeks ago “…this is how you spell: The S-H-E-R-I-F-F”.

Let’s face it Dennis, you aren’t smart enough to figure this all out by yourself and your post proves it. Since you want compare writing, lets. All your previous posts, here and on KS, shows you to basically have just barely a HS degree education level. You can’t punctuate, capitalize or form complete sentences let alone be smart enough to go to the “Internet task for bringing down The Sheriff”. Soemthing potential customer should consider as how can this guy raise roaches but not form a complete sentence. Now, all the sudden you in this particular post can use periods and such and have went to “the task” force. Hummmm, a little odd don’t you think. Even the phrases you’ve used in this post aren’t something that would come out of your mouth and smell of something Lane would say. After all she is the one that LOVES going around, from what people have told me and shown emails of, threatening law suits or legal action. You Jerkoff-is are barely intelligent enough to turn a door knob let alone pronounce “internet stalking” or “masquerading”. Yet your gross misspellings makes it seem that it was probably something told to you over the phone or something.

As for me being a “persona” of Matt, lol. I will admit that I do know him and have bought a couple Sambavas from him but I assure you that we are separate people. If anyone has multiple personalities it is your “master” Lane. In fact if I hadn’t seen a picture of you with that ridiculous inbred, lumber jack beard you sport I would have thought you were personality 6b of Lane’s. I will give you credit though that I did learn about your backstabbing roach business from Matt but that was a long time ago and believe it or not I have heard it from a couple other people since and no matter what you say you, a few people and I know the truth. But, he wasn’t the one to clue me in about Lane and Shelly’s “honest” business practices. I just learned by being astute and reading posts on KS and photo gallery pictures. Of course you are saying, “yeah sure” but that doesn’t make a difference to me as I don’t care if you believe he is I or I am him or whatever. As for me defending Ivan “tooth and nail”, another statement that is too large to come from you, I am not defending him. He has produced better animals pure and simple there isn’t anything for me to say to discredit that. This is the truth and I have been using that fact to strengthen my argument while at the same time using it to piss Lane off because it is obvious that she is jealous of the success he has had but not her.

I don’t like Ivan Alfonso B.F.D. (B.ig F.####ing D.eal). The only reason why I am using his interest to see Lane go down is because it suits me. In fact there have been plenty of times where I have attacked him on the forums of chamresearch because he is a know it all that only sells animals to a so-called privileged crowd, I am sure “The Icequeen” can vouch for that because she was another of my targets at the time. It just so happens this time that the enemy of my enemy is my friend for the moment. Don’t worry Jerkoff-is, read that last sentence again slowly and you’ll understand what it means. Don’t worry though as soon as this is all over again and I see the opportunity to bash Ivan, I will. The resounding fact here is that you Jerkoff-is and your posse are now groping for anything because you guys are on the ropes. I have been just posting funny, yet very truthful stuff but Ivan has provided evidence for most of his arguments. So tell your posse that I guess it is time to go back to the drawing board. All you’ve done is something I’ve wanted you guys to figure out for a while now. Wow, looks like you guys can pat yourselves on the back. Too bad that it doesn’t change the truth I’ve unleashed here. Btw, just because people use big words like Mitsios and puppets doesn’t mean they are the same people. You’ll need better proof than that, lucky for you I have grown tired of going around as the Sheriff and let the cat out.

Project-jerkoff-is, your fine is to read a couple Agatha Christy novels, provided your reading level is up to par, to see what a real mystery is. Don’t think that all this excuses you posting sick chameleon porn on KS.

Dennis “The Sheriff” Madson

Ivan,

This is the last time that you, or your henchmen will get a response from me. Can you read? I said in my post that
you got two free Picasso's out of me, and some worm-saver.
Show me where I posted that you stole them from me. I also posted that I never got any thing from you but average
chameleons. Compare the pic of Alkabides when he was young,
to the recent picture. I would not breed him, because of this.
Maybe you can explain what happened, since you bred him.
It sure does not make any sense to me. As you know I paid
Matt Jillison ( your best friend) $550 for him, and I sold him for
$250. A loss of $300. The Kraken female was sold to me for
$300, and I sold her for $250, a loss of $50. Of course she is
dead now. Your new friend Doug Perry, who bought her, said
that she ate and drank that day, and just fell over dead. Would
you like for me to post the e-mail from Doug Perry stating this
fact? I told you over the phone, a month after getting her that
she was very small for her age. She was half the size of Cyclone.
Now Cyclone grew, was bred, and laid eggs, but I will now know
for sure if she is a pure Ambilobe until the eggs hatch. I bred her
with a pure w/c Ambilobe, the pictures are on Kingsnake. So if
she is truly a pure Ambilobe from Cyclops then the $200 that I
paid for her would be well worth it. Thank you for posting the
e-mails that I sent you, it only proves just how I treat people that
I consider friends. It is obvious that you are very,very mentally
or emotionally disturbed. Even though I do not like you, I prayed
for you in church today. I sincerely pray that you will see the
light someday, and stop trying to hurt people when you do not
get what you want. I am glad that all of this finally came out,
people can judge for themselves the type of people that we are.
End of Story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've been sitting back and watching all of this for a few days, and I can't believe it all. What the hell is the matter with all of you? Does anyone remember why they got into the hobby in the first place? I can't believe I entered into it just in time to get caught up in all of this #@#&!!!. What a nightmare.
As Tony did (not that I know her from Eve, with the exception of what I've read here), I'd like to set some things straight. I'm not interested in storytime! I bought Orion from Shelly. I was, and still am exceptionally pleased with him. I did post a pic of him on KS. I did not however, get ANY compliments. Not that I care anymore because comments of any kind from people of your character mean nothing to me anyways. Orion still thrives, and is a fantastic ambanja!
I then found out that Shelly and her partner Lane were cutting way back on chams due to various reasons. I heard Lane was selling hers for great prices. Shelly sent me pics of what was for sale (out of what she thought I might be interested in). I agreed to Alkibiades and Kraken's daughter. Then out of the blue one day Lane called me while I was working and asked about Jovcham from KS. I told her what I knew about her, and that I had worked with her at one point. Then I asked why. She told me that she was affraid that Jovcham and Ivan were close and that Jovcham had asked to buy One Eye. She then proceeded to tell me that she would rather put down any of her animals before she would ever let Ivan come anywhere near them. At this point all I knew about Ivan was what Lane and Shelly had told me (which was less than favorable to say the least). Lane then asked if I wanted One Eye and asked me to keep him away from Ivan. I agreed. She also told me she had another female Ambilobe (the daughter of Cyclopse) that had just laid a clutch and if I wanted her she'd sell her to me as soon as she recovered. I said sure. Then came Lane's shipment. One Eye, Kraken's daughter (Oasis), and Alkibiades. I had concerns about One Eye right from the start. The pics of him were fabulous, but what I got was less than spectacular. I phoned Lane and told her of my concerns. She quelled my fears by telling me that I had never owned a WC cham and therefore didn't need to worry. The way he looked was normal for them. She DID say that if I was too worried that she would find a home for him. She never mentioned anything about money, and I never asked. I did remember Shelly telling me that all of Lane's sales were final because of her situation. At the prospect of losing my money I told her I made a commitment, and I'd stick with it. I wouldn't hold it against him that he was beaten up. His personality was good. The other two were great. I'd move on. Between all of this Shelly told me that she had a purple bar female and a VERY large WC female for sale if I were interested. I said YES!!! Silk had just laid a clutch, and Broad was thin. She told me that she'd throw in Broad for $50 since she was probably old (but in good health), and because I had bought so many from them. I was a little skeptical but thought it was a good deal, so I agreed. She then called me back and said that Silk had gotten a URI, as did some others in her collectio, so she was going to medicate the whole lot, and ship them when they were better. I told her no worries, I even offered to pay for meds for the 2. She declined, and said it was not necessary. Mean while, back at the ranch....Alk was doing very well, as was Oasis. One Eye wouldn't eat for me. I tried everything I could think of. I tried emailing lane a few times, as well as Shelly to ask if Lane was upset with me over something. Finally Lane responded and told me of a special diet that One Eye was on that I was unaware of. She also told me that the big boys also enjoyed anoles. I told her of my concern of pesticides in my area, and she told me to get some from a field away from houses. So I did. Alk loved them. One Eye still would not eat. This was a very busy time for me, and I unfortunately didn't have the time to spend with One Eye. I knew something needed to be done for him and didn't feel he could survive any sort of trip. I only knew of one other cham keeper in my area that was knowledgeable enough and had the time to make an effort with him-Jovcham. I was reluctant, but something had to be done. I asked her, and she said yes. She took him, and within a day had him eating right from her hand. She had the touch with him I guess. He seemed to be well on the road to recovery. Now everyone I had recieved from Lane seemed to be doing well. In the middle of all of this Shelly told me that the 2 girls were ready to go. So she shipped them and I got them in good order. Broad was much more cham than I expected, and a fabulous personality to boot. A couple of days later Oasis (Kraken's daughter) dropped dead with absolutely no warning. She had eaten 6-8 crickets and drank very well earlier that morning. Then the next day Silk got an eye infection and stopped eating. Then I posted picks of Broad and someone spotted the filarial worms in her side that I never had experience with before. After talking with people and researching them I looked harder at her and found 7 subcutaneous filarial worms. Then Jovacham informed me that One Eye had stopped eating and drinking, so she took him to the only vet in the area with actual chameleon experience (Ivan) after he had vomitted a handful of intestinal worms, and he was in such bad shape that she agreed to put him down rather than see him suffer. I then contacted Lane again about the female ambilobe from Cyclopse, and she told me she gave her to projectpardalis because his breeding efforts with BadAss were more important than mine. Those were her exact words. Needless to say I was a little put off. That's when I made the post on KS. I did not want to get into the mud slinging, and still don't. That's why I never gave any names, especially when I was pressed for them by ddmadson. I NEVER wanted to hurt anyone's business or reputation. I only said that I'd never buy from the previous owners of the batch I got again. I only wanted it to be a buyer beware post. Not about any particular breeder or seller, but a general one about the cham world. Make sure to ask lots of questions, and get lots of testimonials before shelling out as much money to one breeder like I did.
Silk is on the road to recovery. She's still not eating on her own, but she's put on 25% of her weight again. Her color and eyes are better, and she doesn't sleep as much. Broad is fine. She's up to a whopping 160 grams (bigger than Orion-152 grams). One Eye is in fact dead, as is Kraken's daughter. These are the facts to those that are interested in them.
Now for personal comments....

Dennis Maddson-I do thank you for a rather twisted attempt to do right by me, though I don't know you and have never talked to you, so I'm not really sure why. I agree with