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LEARNED A SAD & COSTLY LESSON ABOUT BEARDED DRAGONS!

GREGORY J HALL

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FIRST OF IM A SNAKE GUY & I GUESS ITS MY FAULT HERE'S THE STORY TOOK MY KIDS TO A SHOW TODAY THEY WERE SET ON GETTING SOME TYPE OF LIZARD SO WE BOUGHT A PAIR OF DRAGONS A MALE CITRIS & A HIGH RED FEMALE WHICH WAS HALF THE SIZE OF THE MALE,I HAD THEM IN THE CAGE FOR 5 HOURS WATCHED FOR AGGRESION FROM THE MALE THERE WAS NONE,TOLD MY SON TO WATCH SOME MORE THEY SEEMED FINE TOGETHER,FEED THEM CRICKETS & EVERYTHING WAS COOL,MY SON CAME DOWN STAIRS FOR A FEW MINUTES THEN WENT BACK UP STAIRS & SCREAMED THE RED DRAGON WAS BLEEDING,I RAN UPSTAIRS TO FIND THAT THE MALE BITE THE FEMALE ON THE HEAD CAUSING NEAR DEATH ITS HAGING ON BUT WILL NOT RECOVER IM SURE,NEVER WOULD HAVE THOUGHT HE WOULD KILL THE SMALLER DRAGON,I GUESS ITS MY LACK OF KNOWLAGE OF THE ANIMAL,NOW MY KIDS ARE UPSET & THE LOSS OF $100 FOR THE FEMALE HURTS PRETTY BAD TO.
 
They say to not put dragons of different sizes together... plus the fact if he was trying to mate they can get aggresive, and sounds like she was going to not want that anyway being so small.
Sorry you lost your new beardie. I hope you put her out of her misery...
 
YES I DID BUT THE BREEDERS GIRL FRIEND SOLD THEM TO ME,I ASKED IF THEY COULD BE KEPT TOGETHER & SHE SAID NOT REALLY,SO I THOUGHT OK ILL GET TWO CAGES SET UP ,SO WHEN I GOT HOME READ A LITTLE IN THE BOOK SAYING HOW SOCIAL BEARDIES WERE I PUT THEM TOGETHER TEMPORALY BECAUSE MY SONS WANTED THEM IN EACH OF THEIR ROOMS SEPERATE,THEY WERE FINE FOR HOURS,MY STUPID FAULT FOR BEING TO COMPLACIANT TO LIZARD AGGRESSION LESSON LEARNED!
 
Hello

Hello,

Sorry you had to learn that way, alot of people do.
Unfortunately, people misunderstand or misinterpret what "social" behavior means.
In the wild, & yes, even in captivity they do show & display social behavior. However, it usually is only dominance issues, or mating behavior, that is it.
In the wild, they are social & establish a heirarchy which basically means the males establish their so called territorial regions in which they will fight to the death to keep. The females do not hang out together, nor do they hang with the males. They normally only come together during mating season, & possibly to get food or water, that is it.
The arm waving, headbobbing, etc is basically their way of communicating who is who in the realm of their heirarchy. One is usually dominant while the other one is submissive. That is just how nature goes, unfortunately.
In captivity, if they are put together & have a personality difference, there is nowhere for them to escape to & most of the times, it does not end very pretty.
I am very sorry for what happened. Each case is different, & even most breeders do not house together, or if they do, it is usually special circumstances & they are watched constantly.
Is there anything that we can do to help, is she still hanging on, have you taken her to the vet?
Did you take her out of the tank to get her away from the male?

Tracie
 
Thanks Tracy but I had to destroy her today when the kids were in school,the jaw was completly crushed & it was just living she would have slowly starved to death so I did the right thing kids are better now,next time will do my research I feel like a idiot because I have kept all types of reptile my whole life bred many snakes & also turtles,this bad judgement on my part is a wake up call for me never get a animal till you know all that you need to about habits & behavior of each of the species you intend to keep.
 
Hello

Hello,

Oh I am so sorry you had to put her down. :( They could not have fixed the jaw being that crushed, was the skull crushed too? That is too bad. I know you must be devastated, too. Are your kids ok?
I am sorry. Let us know if you need anything.
Sometimes you can do all the research in the world, & still make mistakes though.

Tracie
 
YEAH THE WHOLE SIDE OF ITS HEAD WAS CRUSHED REAL BAD INJURY BLINDED ALSO NO KIND OF HELP COULD HAVE BEEN DONE DISPATCHED HER VERY QUICKLY,I DO DISPATCH MICE BEFORE FEEDINGS ALL THE TIME BUT THIS WAS TUFF :( !.
 
Hello

Hello,

I am very sorry that happened. How is your other one doing now? Let me know if you need any help.


Tracie
 
Hi ive just joined from the UK
so sorry to hear your sad news. I must confess i have 2 living together and we are still not to sure what sex they are. but they have been together since only a few months old and seem to be hapyp together but i do know that as they get older we coudl have problems. I laso have an adult male who can see these juvies and wow does he go mad.
It must have been very hard for you and your children. I have often heard people say " oh inthe wild etc" but we keep them in what you might call relativly small cages to their natrual habitat and if they dont get on the can only run and hide so far.
But hey dont beat yourself up about it - he was probably waiting for you to leave them alone as they seem to be very clever critters

Best of luck with the other one
 
When I was getting in to bearded dragons a few years ago my boyfriend thought he'd surprise me and buy a nice hypo and trans pair from blood bank dragons without me knowing...he wasn't very educated on dragons at all. He had them shipped to our house and they arrived very early so he started to set up their viv while I was asleep.

He put them in the tank with my big normal male while he set up their viv...the babies were only 4 inches long compared to my foot long+ male. They were quickly eaten by the bigger male. I'm glad I wasn't there to see it, my boyfriend learned a HUGE lesson and from there on out he did his research and now he thinks he's an expert. Haha.

I suggest doing a bunch of research on dragons before keeping the one you have left, they deserve the best they can get and a well educated owner.

Good luck, if you have any questions please be sure to ask.

-Nichole
 
Please excuse the blunt reality of my statement but:
A; you have admitted this was your own “stupid fault”
B: you purchased dragons without any research or knowledge of their needs or requirements
C: went against advice to keep them together.
Now one is dead and it’s a surprise?
So…. what is the point of your post other than to “share” “your loss”?
Your ignorance killed the dragon and you want what? Sympathy?
No animal is or should be a “toy” I have no sympathy for you, or anyone else who causes death through ignorance or for there own selfish reasons especially when the answers are so easily attained.

Walk away and hopefully no other animals will suffer.
"let me know if you need any help" indeed.
 
And Greg, I honestly hope you're not going to look for a female to go with this male if you don't want any more injuries...Dragons can be very violent breeders and even in the smallest cases there are casualties. Missing scales, missing spikes, bleeding, stress, etc.

There are some very nice males and some that will rip their mates apart. They will attempt to get their ladies in position by hopping on their back, grabbing a big chunk of the females neck and sometimes they'll even turn their heads from side to side to get the female to submit and stay still.

Your male seems like a very aggressive boy. I suggest that if you DO want to breed him, only introduce the female after they've seen each other from a distance and watch them when they're together. DO NOT leave them alone. If he seems to always try to act in a violent manner, DO NOT risk breeding him.

I hope this helps and I hope you're doing your research.

-Nichole
 
Greg...

I appreciate that you posted your tough lesson here. Hopefully, others who do not know any better will read and learn. It could perhaps save another dragon's life one day. :)

Melanie
 
Comeon, the op was ignorant enough to not do simple research about housing beardies together. Than he posts on a forum which would of provided him ample information about beardies.
 
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