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Anyone bought from Enclosures by Design?

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Was wondering if anyone has purchased any setups from this company? I was looking into getting a quote from them on some breeder boxes. Any help is greatly appreciated.

James Crenshaw
 
Since Enclosures by Design is very new, you may have more luck asking for references from Alison (or whomever you're dealing with there).

However, you may also want to do a search on the owners as well, as they have other businesses that you can find lots of information on. Alison Tornambene or Sal Tornambene
 
You might want to check other sites too

James,
I had a near-recent dealing with Sal through herptrader.com

Here's the link to the thread:
http://www.herptrader.com/classifieds/viewthread.php?tid=5074

(I hope the link works. If not, just copy and paste it into your browser)

Because of what happened I wouldn't be comfortable buying from them right now. If you decide to after reading things in here and other sites, that would be your choice and freedom. If you do deal with them can you please email me afterward, or post in the BOI, on how the deal went? I did like those cages and I would be interested in buying them if they had a better rep.

Thanks,
Dennis Seda
 
The only thing I would advise beyond that already offered, is that you do a search on the word "Enclosures." Then look for the discussion that was held in a thread, concerning the quality of the enclosures (material, workmanship, safety, etc.) that this company is "offering."


Other than that . . .this is me being good and keeping my mouth shut!

:cool:
 
Hey Darin,

Great minds think alike. I decided to let this one play it self out a little. I feel sort of like I'm in line for a really bitchin' rollercoaster ride and my turn sitting in the front seat is coming up.

As soon as someone buys one of those cages and something nice and/or expensive escapes or dies the ride will start.

WHOOO HOOOO, here we go.

On the serious side I really hope nothing bad happens, but.......

Wes Pollock
 
I'll even save you some time, here's the link to the other thread:
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25068

I personally wouldn't buy pet rocks from these guys, but each is free to make his or her own decision about that.
Their cages however are substandard, based only on the pictures they offer on their website. The cheap price comes from cheap construction. Units such as those can easily be built at home by any amatuer with little to no experience required.
If you're going to buy cages, buy quality, if those suit you, build them yourself. At the very least you can make some decent vents if choosing the latter.
 
Save your money and buy Boaphiles! They may be a little more expensive but it's like comparing a Yugo and a Ferrari when it comes to quality.
 
Why go thru all the trouble to set up a new website with a new name when all they had to do was advertise that Upstate Exotics now sells cages and put them on their existing website?

Oh....wait.....nevermind.

I know why.
 
PLEASE READ.

the only reason i know this info is because i spoke with sal for hours as the last two weeks he has been going to home depot and building a rack system in his house for breeding. there is no way they can ship this and i can send u pics they sent me if you want me to and i gave him advice on building it. let me know and i will show you how to build what he did it is so simple nad will not cost much
ken
 
Oh No, what's that sound I hear??? It's the water swirling aroung the drain about to empty the scum and dirty water out of the tub, hold on tight ken, you're washing yourself and ANY respect you had right down that drain.

Wes Pollock
 
If James Crenshaw id a freind of Steve Smith's and has been posting on his computer,even, why would have to ask about the credibility of Upstate Exotics new enclosure business???
 
Don't Know

Sorry,

But this one is Jims post as well. I am not really sure what he was doing here. He does own quite a few reptiles, but I have no idea about why he posted this inquiry. He said that he did not know who it was when he posted it.

Anyway I apologise for it. I can honestly say that he has finished with his postings. From my computer anyway. Sometimes he has a tendancy to take things a litttle too far, but it won't happen again.

Actually I like some of the cage designs, but I have a problem with there not being enough vent holes in them. I think he should look into some foundation type vents, but that is only my opinion.

I have paid Upstate Exotics their money just like I said that I would. I am a man of my word. So why would I want to stir up the pot any more? I would have nothing to gain by it. Again that is just my opinion. But you can bet if I have something to say I will say it. I am not going to hide behind anyone to do it.



Steve Smith
Southern State Exotics
 
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