Clay English

Everyone knows that we traded Clay for a pastel boa he had for two of the stripe babies we had.We used the same box the only box we had to ship them to him.Without even asking us what was up or anything he banned us from his site.Then post things he doesn't know anything about.He said he will send them back but his kids like them they are for them for a couple of years till he breeds them I think.I said ok or he would buy them for 150.00. Only too a verified paypal account after moving we had our bank account setup.Mr English gave us a link too paypal we opened a account we are verified now.We e mailed him saying he could send the payment But no response from him.I don't know if he is gone or what.I'm not saying anything bad about Mr English but when someone says they are going to do something they should.At least E mail us to let us know whats going on.
I was thinking of a way to clear all this BS up.Would my work ID work?It has my photo and name on it.I could have My friend tell Underhill too take a picture was me so you know we are not the same person.I really don't want too been seen with Underhill but if it takes a brother standing next too a scammer I'll do it.Jon

"Brother",

Didn't you already suggest using your work ID card in the other post? Why haven't you already posted it?

You did previously suggest using your work ID card. On June 26. In fact, and I quote....

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">My drivers licenses has been revoked for 2 years now for two DWI and driving after suspensions.I do have my work ID that has my name and photo on it I can copy for you every Hormel employee has one.Then you'll all be
Apologizing too me.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

What's up now?? No scanner? You lost your ID in a flood?  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

Dude, just give up the ghost!!!

Jon,

By the way, how good at you at giving tatoos? And how is your tattoo parlor doing? Just curious.  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

Dude who the hell are you trying to fool?

a long time ago I offered you FREE ANIMALS if you can prove you are not Jesse Underhill.  You had excuses like "the powere wentt out" and "I will have katie post her Id when she gets back from school"

THAT WAS WEEKS AGO.   How long does it take to come up with a PHUCKING FAKE ID ?!?!

You had all this time to prove you are not Jesse underhill.
how long does it take to scan your id?
How long does it take to get a picture of your id with your damn webcam?

You are pathetic.  WEEKS ago you asked if a work ID will be okay.......now you are asking the same question....

You stalled long enough.  I gave you twelve hours and offered you free animals.....then you said the power went out...so I gave you another twelve hours to post your id.

You never came back.

GO AWAY YOU LOSER!!!!

p.s.  who did you trade your fake animals with?
who was stupid enough to give you their ghost for your fake hets?

it has been a month....that is a long enough time to go and have your fake ID made.

so is your house ready yet?
or are you still living in the hotel?
if your house is ready......we want the address.

so go ahead and post your adress....that way I can look it up and see who it really belongs to.

no a work ID will not work
has to be your work ID
and katies drivers license.

QUIT PHUCKING STALLING YOU PHUCKING LOSER!!!!!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (J & K Larson @ July 12 2002,22:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I was thinking of a way to clear all this BS up.Would my work ID work?It has my photo and name on it.I could have My friend tell Underhill too take a picture was me so you know we are not the same person.I really don't want too been seen with Underhill but if it takes a brother standing next too a scammer I'll do it.Jon</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I'll make it easy.  I can meet you at the Windmill and take your photos along with your identification (drivers license).

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I  really don't want too been seen with Underhill but if it takes a brother standing next too a scammer I'll do it.Jon</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

nice try.....someone should meet you and check out your IDs then they will take the pic.....

Jlepsh is  HONEST...and he is right there close to you....
and he PROVED me wrong in another case.

I want him to check you out.....even if he proves me wrong again....I trust him.  I will believe in him.

I too can pretend to be a black guy....then I can go out and find one of my black friends and take a picture WITH him.  Then I can pretend to be the black guy.

Post your ID tonight with Katies license.
If you can post it by twelve noon (12:00) Eastern Standard Time (EST) July 13, 2002
I will do the following
1. Apologize to everyone and tell them what an @sshole I am
2. I will post on all the forums what an @sshole I am.
3. I will send you four (4) common baby boas
4. I will send you four burms 100% het for albino and 50% het for granite.
5.  I will put a banner from your site to mine.

the ball is on your court AGAIN

Thanks Ritchie.  I would be more than happy to meet these guys for waffles or something.  The Windmill is a between Rochester and Austin.  Jesse or J&K should know where it is at...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">PHUCKING FAKE ID ?!?!
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">QUIT PHUCKING STALLING YOU PHUCKING LOSER!!!!!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Language, Ritchie.  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>

I've been dying to use that word with that intentional misspelling for quite some time now!!! Then I saw the Webslave use it and thought "Oh, yeah. That's the go ahead to use it. It's on now!!!". But I just haven't had the balls to use it yet. Congrats, Ritchie. You one-upped me!!!  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

I try to only use it for the deserving people...

meaning Jesse Underhill and all his other pseudopersonalities and names

Veering off topic for a moment. I would much rather down a cold one in Stillwater and take pics of the St. Croix while I'm at it. Wait a minute. I've already done that!!!  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> Oh well. It's still fun to play chicken on the drawbridge there!!!  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

First things first.  I did receive the two small boas which you offered and said you would ship to me to see if I liked them. They were in a box that had been used several times and was badly crushed.  (The boas were apparently okay though) But all this is when you had led me to believe you were Jon Larson.   You also offered to pay to have them shipped back to you if I did not want them.

Also I have NOT banned J & K Larson the user from my site, only Jesse Underhills proven IP Address 66.188.182.0. has been banned. You have never been able to post because the ip address is the same.  You will notice the Same IP Address in the emails from you.

However, all of these transactions including you shipping the boas were before the Jesse Underhill thing came up again.

So in the mean time, you had shipped the boas and they were on the way, I asked about a shipping address for you.  Now all the sudden you wanted me to ship your boas to a different address as in this email.

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From: Katie Larson <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: tracking number
To: Clay English <[email protected]>

Clay,

We are leaving in about 15 minutes down too Iowa,My wifes father had a stroke. But I have a friend that will be waiting for them at his place till we get back tuesday night. Then I'll email you tuesday night saying we got him.

His name is

Mike Peterson c/o 218 Herps

1011 4th ave N.W

Austin,Mn

55912

We are moving starting wednesday so Our new address is RR4 BOX 131 Austin,Mn 55912

I'll let you know how he is his should be fine Mike has a boa plus a cage too hold him in till we get back.Jon & Katie Larson 218 Herps

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Then the address you wanted shipped was Austin MN

When I found  out your home town was Austin MN, it was just too much of a coincedence, so I sent this email to you.

From: "Clay English" <[email protected]>
To: "Katie Larson" <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: striped babies
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 22:24:33 -0500

Jon,

How close do you live to Jeff Ronne, or to Jesse Underhill?   I know the imfamous Jesse is from your area...  Wonder if you have heard of him?

-Clay

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But I did offer an amount for the boas, when you setup a paypal verified account, OR for you to send me 30.00 and I would return the boas to you.

So now I want you to send the 30.00 bucks and I will return the boas as in your agreement. You still have proven NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING....

When asked to post your Driver license, you email me with

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From: Katie Larson <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: tracking number
To: Clay English <[email protected]>

For one I don't have a DL two DWI, How and were do you get a Paypal account?I'm going too post my work ID and post photo's of us Plus get a photo of me by Mr Underhill So everyone can see we are not him.Once I find out where too get a paypal account setup.You can seen the money for them,We still have a pair of holdbacks.Jon Larson  

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You used Jesse's ip address all though all your emails and through your forum posting.  EVERYWHERE.  There was not one time that your and Jesses' IP address were different.  With the exception of after everyone pointed this fact out to you.

Your very last email to me still has the same IP Address.

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From: Katie Larson <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: tracking number
To: Clay English <[email protected]>

maybe he is unlisted....but I can't find a mike peterson either.

Hey Jon larson...give us the physical address to your house...
instead of just a box number.

~~~~Sorry everyone, this was left out.. It belongs at the top
~~~~of my second post.. Not sure what happened to it..

Never heard of either of them,We moved here from Kanas City, Jon works for Hormel Foods for the last 14 years he took the Manger job in G.P Mezzing here  we like the area very nice.We read all the post on your site about Jesse Underhill But we never met him we think it's better we don't.Plus we found out there a law here you can't have any exotix animals that means reptiles too. But we found a nice house just outside of Austin.So we'll not have too sell all our reptiles Like we have alot (LOL) only 7 boas. But it's a good start let us know how you like the boas.Katie Larson

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After I found the shipping information I asked him to explain how he could NOT know of Jesse Underhill when he shipped the boas to me.

This was that response

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From: Katie Larson <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: tracking number
To: Clay English <[email protected]>

Hi.Clay

Yes I can explan, A co-Worker (Greg Howdon) at Hormel told us he could have his friend ship our snakes for us because were in the process of  moving, Staying at Days Inn for the last Month is not what you would call home So Greg had his friend ship and receive them I would pick them up after work from Greg house.In our room we put the snakes in rubbermaid tubs with heat pads under them till we moved. I didn't know till tonight after talking with Greg it was Mr Underhill that was shipping and receiving our packages.We are calling Airborne & UPS too set up accounts with them.Our new address is going too be 61595 150th st, I forgot there is no county road here just ST, Ave. We are renting the extra farm house .We are trying too get this hobby going to offer people a few good boas we produce.If you feel your not satisfied send the stripes back.I'll pay for it like I said before.You'll have too have UPS hold them in Albert Lea.we are moving this week and next,Will be busy getting thing moved in.We have two storage garage full of our belongings.Jon Larson

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Hopefully this is all I left out.  I had it pretty well organized at first, but it made me chop it up to fit....

I asked mike if he would after we found out that it was jesse shipping for us thats why I had mike address.I'm going to talk with greg tomorrow at work and see when I can get it setup for I and jesse too meet jlepsch at the windmill.Then you can see with proof I'm not him.I forgot all About my ID from work.Jon

Should I bring my balls i have forsale too?Because people are saying I'm selling snakes I don't have.Jon

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There is no such number....at least not that I can find...
it is too high.

also I did a search for all the larsons whose initials start with a J or K who live on 150th st. or 150th ave. or 150 anything
the results will be posted below.
here is the link to the results

click here for search results

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POST IT NOW !!!!!
QUIT STALLING

Jon,

It happened not long ago here where 2 individuals were thought to be the same person. Several people were completely convinced they were 1 in the same person. But, a similar meeting was set up. Photos were taken of the separate people, then of them together, and then their ID's. It was proven that they were 2 different people. Apologies were made and being wrong was admitted. Publicly.

I doubt Jesse Underhill will cooperate much, but you have a valid chance to prove us wrong. Do so. It could be that you are a victim of grossly bad circumstances. I doubt it. But that other situation proved it to be possible. As for lightning striking twice, I doubt that as well. Back your words with proof. Obviously you have the ability to post pics. Take the initiative and prove me wrong. This is the last chance you will be given to not only distinguish yourself from Jesse, but to establish and/or save ANY credibility on the BOI or any other forum. Period. You decide.