TY YOUNG - Fantasy Fattails- Super Great Guy

Hello,
Just came by here to drop a line about a great guy and some killer animals. I just purchased almost 7k worth of Tangerine Striped Albino Fattails from him for a customer overseas and all I can say is wow!!!! These are the nicest, fattest , healthiest fattails ever...
Many Thanks TY !!!

boy was I wrong....

Just came back to update this post, yep nice looking geckos, just wished this guy could sex, 90% of the animals I purchased from him as males were females, the group was originally supposed to be 13.3 - 10.6, turned out to be the opposite, bummer since males are worth 2x what females are. Tried to talk with Ty about it but basically he told me tough SH!t.Said Not his problem that he miss sexed almost every gecko, originally this group was supposed to go to some customers in Japan, but at the begging I was sceptical, to me they all looked like females, but this guy swore up and down that they were what he sold them to me as. I am glad I trusted my gut, I informed the buyer of this possibility and instead of getting upset he gave most of the group to me to keep and breed free of charge. I will be taking care of this customer with the offspring of these geckos, too bad Ty is a scumbag, if he would of taken care of me I would of bought at least 50-100 more animals for my customers annually. HIS LOSS MY GAIN.What an idiot.
Don't be taken in by this guy, he is scum, he will lie to you to make the deal and will not take care of you if you have a problem.After reading some old post I learn he is buddies with people like Bobby Pruett, go figure.I guess birds of a feather really do stick together.

Ty has purchased from me a couple of times, and he has always been great to deal with. No problems with him at all as a buyer. However, I have never purchased from him so that may be a totally different story. So let me get this straight, he just said "tough Sh!t" and left it that, or are you using that as an expression? My suggestion at this point would be to do as you have said in the recent past and post all e-mail communications here. If you dont have any in regard to the missexing issue, than e-mail him with the concerns and post those e-mails here along with Ty's responses. It will give us all a better idea about the transaction, and it may also give him an opportunity to make right on the deal. Has he been informed about this thread? As for being friends with Bobby Pruett, I agree that that association can only hurt his reputation.

"90% of the animals I purchased from him as males were females, the group was originally supposed to be 13.3 - 10.6, turned out to be the opposite"

So what was the actual ratio that you ended up with?

Here's everything in a nutshell...

Back in Dec or Nov I had posted a Amazon Basin Emerald on kingsnake.com, Ty emailed me wanting the animal and wondering if I would trade, I looked at his site and saw he had many nice male striped albino tangerine fattails listed that were very well started. I sent the website to one of my customers Ted Hori who is a close friend as well. He came back wanting to purchase the entire group he had for sale which was about 18 animals. I told Ty of my customers wishes and if he agreed to take the basin and 5000.00 for the group. He agreed, I sent the snake as a deposit, and about a month or so later paid the balance.He shipped me the animals, it was a total of 18 in all. 16 amels 2 hets. The agreement was that the group would be very male heavy roughly between a 10.6 and 13.3 with a pair of hets.

About 2 months ago he purchased an adult male albino nelsoni from me, nothing said about the basin.

He then called me about 1.5 - 2 months ago and said he needed money for a new roof or something and asked if I would buy the basin back at 1500.00, which I said no,if I wanted to keep it I wouldn't of sold it.. he never once stated any problems with it and even told me at the time it was a very nice animal and was doing well.I originally had a 30 day feeding and health guarentee, plus I didn't pay him the balnce till a month later, obviously no problems then!!! He asked if I would do him a favor and sell it for him if he shipped it back. I told him no problem, can do and never heard back from him.
During my conversation with him on the phone I asked him if there was a chance he could of missexed the geckos. I told him I believe most are females , that we did not resale the group due to this and that we had decided to keep them and raise them.He told me that they would eventually become males that it was just a maturity thing and that they were temp sexed etc..We'll that's not the case most are around 40grams now and are definitely females.
...thats the last I heard from him, he didn't even ship me back the basin, you know why...he was either paranoid that I would keep the snake as reimbursement or that he was embarrassed and just didn't want anything to do with me anymore.
A couple weeks ago a customer put in another order and wanted to buy a 10lot from him. I contacted him and he ignored my 1st email ,later I emailed him again and also told him of the final resulting sex ratio, he emailed me back saying that because I sold him a Amazon basin that eats fine ,shed's fine but for some reason( usually do to improper feeding) the basin hadn't pooped in 2 months, which isn't really out of the norm for an adult basin. That this is why he won't do anything. Just a fabricated lie, he is looking for a way out and knows it.

Below is copy of my emailed reply to him, he has never responded to it and has ignored me due to guilt and knowing he screwed me over ,I gave him several days before coming here and in doing so I lost his prior email.



I sent you that basin as a deposit... almost a month later I paid the balance, do you think I would send someone a bad snake as a deposit, that would be very stupid. Also you had plenty of time between then and the time you shipped me the geckos to voice any concerns, about a month I believe, over month after the deal was finally completed you called and said you wanted to sell it, you NEVER once said you wanted a refund or that you had any problems with the animal,You said you needed money for some reason and wanted to sell it that's it, I said it would take awhile to get the 1500.00 you wanted for him, that animal had a 1 month guarantee not a 5 month guarantee and I wasn't about to buy him from you myself , the animals you listed on your site were sexed they were represented as being sexed!!!, I am well aware that some may not have been 100% and I did say that was OK if a FEW turned out female, BUT 90% of the animals that were sold to me as males turned out females, the group was supposed to be at least male heavy, it's not even close. I paid an average of 400.00ea animal ,most of your females listed as retail were in at that range, so I did not even get a real price break. I have raised half the geckos up myself, sold the other half to my customers who have claimed the same problem. I am going to take care of them.
You also said on the phone when I talked with you last that they were temp sexed and that it can be difficult to sex them at the age they were then, you stated that some mature later than others etc and that they were male heavy..Having a few turn out female is one thing, but almost ALL is entirely not what we discussed, the reason we wanted the group was because it was male heavy, why did I get a 3.13 instead of 8.8 or a 10.8 ??? That not even in the same ballpark!!! Throwing 300 worth of free animals does not cover this! especially when some of the freebies I had to give away due to not being quality animals.
As far as the basin is concerned it has been almost 5 months since I sent that snake too you not 2 or 3, if it hasn't defecated in the last 2 months then it is quite obvious you are not taking proper care of him. You have probably fed him too frequently, or too many times before he defecates or a meal that is too large. This is the only way basins become impacted, many basins go 2 weeks - months before they defecate, this all depends on temps, shed cycle ,meal size, age, stress etc...Also Basins only shed a couple times a year, a little research and you probably will do much better with him, not knowing how often they shed etc.. is concrete proof that you have not researched this particular species adequately,if you miss something like shed then you probably missed many other details.If you remember the add I posted I even was offering a full vet exam and fecal prior to sell, that would not of been possible if it was sick etc... the animal was 100% when you received him. PERIOD.
Also I did offer to resale that Basin at no expense or trouble to you, you agreed to it and said you would ship it back, I offered this as a favor, you then chose not to send the animal or contact me further. If you would of taken me up on that offer it would of been sold within a month, but I guess you didn't want to wait , recently bought a small male from Jon at Nextworld Exotics and sold this instead...
Turning this around like I did something wrong is not the way to handle this, because of the female problem I have chosen to delay 3 orders amounting to about 50 animals till I can determine the sex of this group 100% and to see how you react when I bring this to your attention, now I have and I have voiced my concerns and problems to you and instead of finding a solution you have put the whole problem back on me and at the same time have found a way to justify selling me animals that weren't what you said they were( I guess your psychic and saw this coming), if you had taken care of me in a better fashion instead of pointing the finger back at me I would of bought 75% of what you produced this year and probably the next EASILY!!! 10's of thousands of dollars worth of business ruined because you wouldn't listen to me.
If you think I am bul-----g you then go to Ron Trempers page...here's a link
http://www.leopardgecko.com/distributors.html, you can see our company is his ONLY exporters to Asia and if you want his animals you have to deal with us. We wouldn't be listed on his page unless we were the premier gecko dealer/exporter in Asia and we are held in very high esteem. We have ALL the GOOD PAYIN customers and we MOVE million of dollars worth of animals every year to Asia.You could been apart of this.
Keep your hets, your albinos, I will also resend my post on the BOI. I will not do business with someone I cannot trust or who is not willing to listen to reason. I make way too much to jeopardize that over some silly gecko deal.
Regards,
Justin Mitcham
Wonderful World Pet Suppliers -Dallas, Texas


I never asked him once for anything, no refund etc.. just wanted to discuss the issue and see how he would handle it, these geckos are in very high demand and I really wanted to see if he could be trusted at this level of buisness. It is obvious he cannot.

FirstTy is great, then he is bad???
There is a lot here that just does not add up. If you were so upset with him, why did you contact him to fill another order as you said.

Justin, do you remember what you said in the thread in regard to how people should post on the BOI? So far, you have not done one thing that you yourself said (in that thread) should be done when someone has a complaint here on the BOI. No facts, just name calling and accusations which exactly what you were complaining about earlier. You bash him for his association with Pruett, yet are more than happy to buy from Mike Clark (Surpentboy). Again, very ironic.

You said: "he emailed me back saying that because I sold him a Amazon basin that eats fine ,shed's fine but for some reason( usually do to improper feeding) the basin hadn't pooped in 2 months, which isn't really out of the norm for an adult basin. That this is why he won't do anything. Just a fabricated lie, he is looking for a way out and knows it."

That e-mail would be nice to see (with headers). You also seem to be engaging in some major speculation, which is fine, but you need to state it as such instead of as fact. I have another question. Did he tell you tough sh!t as you said? You should also include headers with the one e-mail that you posted earlier that you say you sent him. The one that sounds more like an advertisement for your business than an actual complaint.

Earlier you said this" Personally in my opinion since this is a court of public opinion ..well of sorts anyway's. I feel that there should be some form of minimal documentation required for posters. If someone ships a bad animal, I feel pics and/or a vet report should be required. If someone rips someone off, receipt of the transaction and communications should be provided. So many post are taken as is, no proof, only the persons word, it seems sometimes the "defendant" ( I guess we could call them that) has to prove what the accuser is saying false, which to me seems backwards. If a person makes a claim then it should be backed up with evidence. make a case for us!!! I get so tired of post that seem to drag on for days with only accusations etc... No proof, no post should be the policy.
For example:
Lets say Joe Blow sends me a sick snake that dies two weeks later..he ships using USPS and the packing is horrible and he is unwilling to do anything. In my post I would like to see the following:
1) Pictures of the animal or problem in question

2)Vet report.. if it is sick then obviously it should be seen by a vet.

3)Emails or correspondences that back up my claim

4)Pictures and descriptions of the packing etc.. as well as a tracking #

5)Did I abide by the sellers terms...were there any terms?

I don't feel that we need to meet the requirements as stringent as a court of law but at least basic documentation should be provided. This gives both sides a level playing field and allows the facts to be determined from the evidence, not heresy or someone's word. This also allows the person to be able to face there accuser without the accuser lying or fabricating additional BS to alter or corroborate there story.
I like systems and procedures.... I don't care if I see 100 posters talking crap about someone , I want to see the evidence for myself, I want to make up my own mind not to be coerced by public opinion. Does this makes sense to you..does anyone else feel the way I do???
No proof, no post..."

Justin, get your ducks in a row before you start calling people scumbags and idiots. Hold your self up to the same standards that you hold others up to as well. Then we can maybe get to the bottom of this.

"There is a lot here that just does not add up. If you were so upset with him, why did you contact him to fill another order as you said."
To give him a chance to make good, plus I did not know 100% till towards the end, I waited to be sure..

"So far, you have not done one thing that you yourself said (in that thread) should be done when someone has a complaint here ..."

your mistaken, seems to me you are just trying to pick me apart for a fight ...

If you look at my post those were guidlines that are situation specific and should not be taken out of context....I did not disagree with Wes after he pointed out that in some situations that may not be possible to provide the documentation I suggested. He was right. This is what discussions are for...I am not always right.

"1) Pictures of the animal or problem in question"
how do you propose me to accommodate this? If you like at your expense I will send the group to you and let you sex them!!! IS this ok with you, or i can send them to a more neutral party of your choice.

"2)Vet report.. if it is sick then obviously it should be seen by a vet."
does not apply , although I can at your expense have a vet sex them if you need

"3)Emails or correspondences that back up my claim"
email posted, you can contact him for the other emails, doubt he will provide them, plus he has not responded to my last email ..

"4)Pictures and descriptions of the packing etc.. as well as a tracking #"
does not apply, not a packaging issue.

"5)Did I abide by the sellers terms...were there any terms?"
not relevant

"Justin, do you remember what you said in the thread in regard to how people should post on the BOI? So far, you have not done one thing that you yourself said (in that thread) should be done when someone has a complaint here on the BOI.
No facts, just name calling and accusations which exactly what you were complaining about earlier."
Below is a post you made James ..the last part being very significant.
So are facts necessary? Or are they just necessary from me do to a past opinion. You say they aren't in some situations, such as this..maybe I agree with you here,
"Are facts always necessary
Justin, I agree with you for the most part. I think that it is always desirable to post pics, e-mails, ads, and vet reports. Facts are much more helpful, but not always necessary."

This post is exactly what you were talking about isn't it..


"You bash him for his association with Pruett, yet are more than happy to buy from Mike Clark (Surpentboy). Again, very ironic."
1).How this,prove your statement please... I did not even know about his actions on Fauna until HE DREW ME INTO IT BY POSTING A GOODGUY POST ON ME!!! I gave him my word I would take certain animals if sold, he emailed me saying there for sale,I kept my word, then afterwards he created the mess he is in now on the BOI. At the time of the deal he didn't have a bad name yet,nor did he ripp anyone off to my knowledge. So how do I associate myself with him, Ty has admitted to being friends with Bobby, I have admitted to keeping my word to someone who is less than deserving of it...BUT I DID KEEP IT. Maybe you choose who you keep your word to based on other factors,me if I give it , I do my best to keep it .Since then I have had no contact with this Mike Clark and do not wish to...

Question...if you would have given your word to him in the same fashion, would you have broken it, remember I am a couple hours away from him, I am not scarred of being ripped etc..

You should also include headers with the one e-mail that you posted earlier that you say you sent him. The one that sounds more like an advertisement for your business than an actual complaint.
DONE
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Forwarded Message:

Subj: Re: Message about: Albino Fattails available now!
Date: 3/27/2005 3:42:06 P.M. Central Standard Time
From: Asnakemann
To: [email protected]



I sent you that basin as a deposit... almost a month later I paid the balance, do you think I would send someone a bad snake as a deposit, that would be very stupid. Also you had plenty of time between then and the time you shipped me the geckos to voice any concerns, about a month I believe, over month after the deal was finally completed you called and said you wanted to sell it, you NEVER once said you wanted a refund or that you had any problems with the animal,You said you needed money for some reason and wanted to sell it that's it, I said it would take awhile to get the 1500.00 you wanted for him, that animal had a 1 month guarantee not a 5 month guarantee and I wasn't about to buy him from you myself , the animals you listed on your site were sexed they were represented as being sexed!!!, I am well aware that some may not have been 100% and I did say that was OK if a FEW turned out female, BUT 90% of the animals that were sold to me as males turned out females, the group was supposed to be at least male heavy, it's not even close. I paid an average of 400.00ea animal ,most of your females listed as retail were in at that range, so I did not even get a real price break. I have raised half the geckos up myself, sold the other half to my customers who have claimed the same problem. I am going to take care of them.
You also said on the phone when I talked with you last that they were temp sexed and that it can be difficult to sex them at the age they were then, you stated that some mature later than others etc and that they were male heavy..Having a few turn out female is one thing, but almost ALL is entirely not what we discussed, the reason we wanted the group was because it was male heavy, why did I get a 3.13 instead of 8.8 or a 10.8 ??? That not even in the same ballpark!!! Throwing 300 worth of free animals does not cover this! especially when some of the freebies I had to give away due to not being quality animals.
As far as the basin is concerned it has been almost 5 months since I sent that snake too you not 2 or 3, if it hasn't defecated in the last 2 months then it is quite obvious you are not taking proper care of him. You have probably fed him too frequently, or too many times before he defecates or a meal that is too large. This is the only way basins become impacted, many basins go 2 weeks - months before they defecate, this all depends on temps, shed cycle ,meal size, age, stress etc...Also Basins only shed a couple times a year, a little research and you probably will do much better with him, not knowing how often they shed etc.. is concrete proof that you have not researched this particular species adequately,if you miss something like shed then you probably missed many other details.If you remember the add I posted I even was offering a full vet exam and fecal prior to sell, that would not of been possible if it was sick etc... the animal was 100% when you received him. PERIOD.
Also I did offer to resale that Basin at no expense or trouble to you, you agreed to it and said you would ship it back, I offered this as a favor, you then chose not to send the animal or contact me further. If you would of taken me up on that offer it would of been sold within a month, but I guess you didn't want to wait , recently bought a small male from Jon at Nextworld Exotics and sold this instead...
Turning this around like I did something wrong is not the way to handle this, because of the female problem I have chosen to delay 3 orders amounting to about 50 animals till I can determine the sex of this group 100% and to see how you react when I bring this to your attention, now I have and I have voiced my concerns and problems to you and instead of finding a solution you have put the whole problem back on me and at the same time have found a way to justify selling me animals that weren't what you said they were( I guess your psychic and saw this coming), if you had taken care of me in a better fashion instead of pointing the finger back at me I would of bought 75% of what you produced this year and probably the next EASILY!!! 10's of thousands of dollars worth of business ruined because you wouldn't listen to me.
If you think I am bull-----g you then go to Ron Trempers page...here's a link
http://www.leopardgecko.com/distributors.html, you can see our company is his ONLY exporters to Asia and if you want his animals you have to deal with us. We wouldn't be listed on his page unless we were the premier gecko dealer/exporter in Asia and we are held in very high esteem. We have ALL the GOOD PAYIN customers and we MOVE million of dollars worth of animals every year to Asia.You could been apart of this.
Keep your hets, your albinos, I will also resend my post on the BOI. I will not do business with someone I cannot trust or who is not willing to listen to reason. I make way too much to jeopardize that over some silly gecko deal.
Regards,
Justin Mitcham
Wonderful World Pet Suppliers -Dallas, Texas

My post is not a typical bad guy post, it is different being that much time has passed on the original deal, kinda like finding out your hets are normals... I did not come here to resolve, prove or talk about this issue. I came here to retract my original post and offer my experience. I understand my other post I stated a position that was very different than the position I take now, maybe it is a little hypocritical to some extent,but keep in mind that the other post was a discussion and I feel that I did error in my opinion. I did not rebut Wes's point because I couldn't, so stating that my opinion at the time is how I feel now... is not correct, nor should I be held those prior statements, especially since they took place in dialogue that was a discussion of different views and opinions.

I have no need to fight with you, but I would hold you to your own standards. It was your post not mine. I am not taking sides here Justin, I just feel like it was you that had definite opinions about how posts should be made here. You are correct in that this is a unique situation (not often does someone give a glowing post about someone and then responds to their own post months later saying that person is actually a scumbag and an idiot. That does make the situation quite unique indeed in that it does raise some suspision. I do not feel that refering to someone as a scumbag is appropriate (especially after what you said just days earlier). You could have simply recanted your former good guy post and said that the geckos were the wrong sex and that you felt Ty did not seem to want to make it right. The name calling and accusations require that you to step things up and post proof. You in my opinion did not. I do not think your one e-mail is the whole story, and it is not enough to hang the guy with.

Basically this guy took advantage of me in my opinion because he thought these would go overseas and disappear. When I spoke with him on the phone about it the 1st time I felt like he was trying to shut me down and not listen. I have a lot of experience at this and I figured my opinion would have some weight to it, I gave this guy the benifit of the doubt for several months.When I knew for sure the sexes of these animals I then decided to state it to him as well as with a an order, I didn't ask for a discount,refund, free animals nothing. I was just ignored , I wrote a more stern email and recieved a reply stating there was really nothing he felt he can do for me,"so in essence tough sh!t" and that if I had bought back the basin he may of done something, this is what PO me. He just weasled out of any responsibility.
Question, use common sense here..what motive would I have to come back here and start crap with this guy and recant my post like this unless it's true. I don't like being on here so people can spend there evening pointing out my flaws , but I don't want my name attatched to him or encouraging this guy in any fashion, my post is what it is ...a recant. The guy was very cordial when we completed the deal, the geckos were outstanding. BUT , they were not what was ordered and paid for, the only way of determining this is through time. If you wish I can prove there sex etc.. to you ,but here's the deal...not at my loss, if I am right you pay if I am wrong everyone involved gets a public appology here on the BOI and I pay. Remember I was to recieve 13.3 with the possibility of one or two being females. I can send you 6 females now, 3 or 4 went to Ted, one person bought 2 females from me and I can probably track where the rest wound up..is that enough females for you to realize I got ripped.
Also at 8:50pm CST Ty was reading this thread ,he never posted a response or reply. If he post anything here I would like him to post our email correspondences. I sent one of mine from kingsnakes email system and didn't click the thing for a copy or erased it, that is one of the reasons I only have this one email.The other email from him I didn't save and I waited too long and it was automatically deleted by AOL.
If Anyone out there visited his website back in NOV and DEC they may recall seeing the geckos listed, there was a total of 18 I believed pictured we purchased almost all that was displayed, on his site 3/4ths of the animals were listed as males, this is the group we purchased.

I am not saying you have any other motives here. I am just trying my best to be impartial. You have explained yourself in a much more profesional mannor with this last post. I just feel like you were a little harsh with the first post considering that there was nothing to back up the claim at that time. I do not need to see the geckos, and as you now know, the burden of proof is not always as easy as one would think. Basically, it is still a "he said, she has yet to say" situation. I think it would be wise of Ty to post a response here, and I hope this works out for you both.

it's been a week now....

...C'mon Ty let's hear your side of the story, you been here reading this post, whats the matter , nothing to say about my accusations, hmmm...I guess there is nothing to say, because it's all true...this is why you are hiding!!!
If you want me off your back and want to make right on the situation send me 4 amel males to cover me and my customers who YOU ripped off!!! Be a man and do the right thing.

My experience with Ty...

Last month I decided to put my balls up for sale/trade and Ty emailed me with serious interest in trading for some fat tail geckos he had. I placed Ty in the drivers seat of the trade and told him to put together a fair trade package of geckos. I explained to Ty that I was only interested in adult specimens and whatever package he put together would not be refused. The classified ad also stated that I was only interested in trading for adult specimens.

Ty presented a package to me that sounded fair and I was all set to pull the trigger when he emailed me again to ask what sex I wanted the geckos to be. I was a bit confused so I asked him to clarify. He explained that he was waiting on eggs and when they were laid he would incubate them according to the sex ratio I wanted.

I emailed Ty to explain that we never discussed trading the balls for eggs that hadnt even been laid yet let alone hatchlings. I never heard back from him after that. No apology for wasting my time or the misunderstanding.....nothing.

I have to say I wasnt left with the best impression of Ty. He clearly knew what I had wanted in the trade and what I specified in my advertisement. So why was he offering me hatchlings from eggs that hadnt even been laid yet let alone incubated?

It was my feeling that Ty was determined to make the trade with what he had available at the moment (nothing) and not what I had asked for. Would he pull the wool over a persons eyes to get what he wanted? Sad to say it but it looks that way to me.

stay far away.....

As you people can plainly see this guy cares none for his customers, he will screw you over in a heartbeat to get what he wants, if there is a problem he will not take care of it or even entertain the ideal. To date I have not recieved one email from him trying to resolve this issue.He has not defended his actions here and is well aware of these post. Beware, if he is selling sick animals then you will not know about it till it is too late, if he sells you missexed geckos then you are on your own.Don't risk your collection or hard earned cash buying from him. These threads are testiment to how he will take care of any problem should it arises..all he will do is ignore you and pretend the problem does not exist.

Just received my order from Ty...

I guess I'll use this as my 'introduction' to the BOI as it is my first time posting anything on Fauna. I've been reading several threads for a while now, and I must admit that I've been a little intimidated by some of the personal 'attacks' that I've seen. But I promise I'm a good guy with nothing to hide, so please don't take anything I say the wrong way.

I had never heard of Ty before seeing his ads, so I asked my friend who got me into breeding reptiles a few years ago (mostly colubrids). He knows a man (I'm omitting names out of respect - not scandal) who worked with Ty years ago when he started the Fat Tail project, and he assured us that the animals would be of great quality. I placed an order for a handful of geckos that he had individual pictures of on his website. (I won't list his URL but if you link to it from the KS ads, the geckos I received today all have my name under them). I sent Ty a postal MO for the geckos, and had no conflicts with any of the financial matters. He replied with a tentative shipping date, as that would be when the youngest reached four weeks of age. I think the fact that he doesn't sell them as soon as they've hatched works toward his credit. He emailed me asking which of two days worked best for me when the time arrived, and we agreed on today (4/21) as the arrival. They were well-packaged and appear to be in great condition. He even included a free possible het. with the group.

All in all, I have no complaints with the transaction I had with Ty, and everything I received was exactly as he had represented it to me, and what I had expected. I can't say why he hasn't replied to this post, but I've arrived at the assumption he's a pretty busy person who doesn't spend a ton of time at the computer just by how brief his email replies usually are... although not all of us are sitting here buzzing along at 80 wpm.

If anyone has questions regarding MY purchase from Ty, please feel free to ask. I'll check back to this thread as often as I can (if it's still going...).

Thanks much
Paul Sage

Ty is very aware of this thread, when I 1st started this thread I noticed that he was reading it shortly after I posted, in fact he has been to this site several times since then, you may have noticed that the site displays names of those logged in, I have seen his name here on multiple occasions. The reason Ty does not post a reply is because he has been busted, he lied to get what he wanted, plain to see, now that the geckos are grown I know there sexes 100% he will not make good on his mistake or even defend his actions here. Do you think that for one second if he were mis-accused in any fashion he would let this thread go unchallenged. If someone were accusing me of something I didn't do I definetly would speak out. But see he did screw me, he knows it...and he knows there is no evidence he can offer to the contrary.He is hoping that this thread will just go away.
...your probably right ,Ty will take your money and send you something in return.
Fact is that if you have a problem he will not honor his agreements...
Fact is he will lie to you and misrepresent the animals to get what he wants...
I have yet to date been sent one email from him looking for a way to reconcile this in any fashion.In fact he has ignored most of my emails.
Are these the actions of someone to be trusted?

it does seem odd to me Paul that you joined the day after I made my post about Ty and this is your 1st and only post...did he put you up to this???

Should have seen that coming...

No, Ty did not put me up to this. In fact, I had first noticed this thread after placing my order with Ty, and I decided I wouldn't even mention this thread to him until after I received the order. I guess I wasn't too concerned as it seems you, Justin, are the only person who seems to have had a bad deal with the man. Also, since my order was only around $600 (which is pretty close to my limit for someone I have never dealt with before - reputable or not) I was willing to just wait and see how Ty handled things, and then post my experience here. Like my original post said, I can only really comment on MY experiences with him.
I understand that it seems perhaps a little too coincidental that this was my first post, but I didn't join until I had something helpful or constructive to say
Ty made no promises to me on the sexes of any of the geckos (they're only 4 weeks old, so how could he...) but he did say somewhere that 85* yields mostly females. As far as Ty's follow-through on transactions he has made, I can't really pass judgment there either because I haven't had a problem (yet) that has needed any attention on his end.
Now, I've read enough other posts to know not to be surprised when the first accusation comes to a new user of actually being an alias for someone who's been "raked over the coals", and yes I am a "greenie" when it comes to the online community of reptile afficcionados (forgive me if that's spelled wrong, I lent my dictionary to some guy named Ray Strick....something ). I'm just hoping that between using my full name and having people I have made purchases from in the past two years vouche for me, I'll earn just a shred of that hard-to-get-BOI-credibility
Paul Sage