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Lucille

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What is sin?
Here, a description taken from the online enclyclopedia Wikipedia:

The seven deadly sins, also known as the capital vices or cardinal sins, are a classification of vices used in early Christian teachings to educate and protect followers from basic human instincts. The church divided sin into two types: venial (forgiven without the need for the sacrament of Confession) and capital (meriting damnation).
Beginning in the early 14th-century, the popularity of the 7 deadly sins with artists of the time engrained them in human culture around the world. The generally accepted deadly sins are superbia (hubris/pride), avaritia (avarice/greed), luxuria (extravagance, later lust), invidia (envy), gula (gluttony), ira (wrath), and acedia (sloth)

I can identify struggling with some of the feelings listed as sin here. Is it wrong to feel them? Or, is it wrong to act on the feelings?

I personally have very strong lines of demarcation between right and wrong in certain situations. In others, the gray area predominates, because in certain situations it is difficult to tell just what is right, and what is wrong.

What do y'all think?
 
Well, I think as far as I know that confession is a forgiveness of the Catholic faith which I am not of.

There is a movie called Seven that is a very graphic display of these so called 7 deadly sins.

Im not sure if non Catholic Christians have confession but I am pretty sure they do not so I think it is of the Catholic religion and each has to pic his own when it comes to that,
 
These are some deep, well thought questions, there Lucille. You sure you wanna hear some responses here?? Just kiddin.

But, sin, in itself is a deep issue. The Bible describes sins, but in its very vague manner, open to individual interpetation.

The seven deadly sins, as we all know, are instincts of animalisitic nature, much like self preservation. Too much of any can be lethal, but, it all actuality, harm none other than one's self.

Therefore, I tend to believe that feeling these "sins" is perfectly natural, acting on it is fine, overindulgence is what makes it a sin.

For example, take your favorite food, say ice cream {any flavor}. Want some, ok. Have some, fine. Eat a truck load, die.


Speaking of ice cream.............................I'll be back. Gotta run to the store.
 
ZX11 said:
Speaking of ice cream.............................I'll be back. Gotta run to the store.
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If it's Blue Bell choklit or butter pecan you got to come over and gimme some of it :hehe:
 
ZX11 said:
Butter pecan, yes, I will share.
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Sometimes sharing what you got is sin and sometimes, it ain't. I think sharing butter pecan is probably pretty universally an act of selfless friendship... :)
 
If Id of known this was to be a humorous type discussion Id probably not of replied.

If you really want to talk about the 7 deadly sins of what I believe is Catholic faith or The Ten Commandments of what I believe is Christian Faith (2 different things), there is not a lot or any humor that can be applied.

The envy of... or lust of.... is not the same thing as "thou shall not covet they neighbors wife"

Each religion is different and the comparisons of such sins and terms can be too. But IMO they are not at all funny, or able to be made joke of.

Maybe I take this a little too heavy as a serious topic and others do not.
 
dragonflyreptiles said:
If Id of known this was to be a humorous type discussion Id probably not of replied.

If you really want to talk about the 7 deadly sins of what I believe is Catholic faith or The Ten Commandments of what I believe is Christian Faith (2 different things), there is not a lot or any humor that can be applied.

The envy of... or lust of.... is not the same thing as "thou shall not covet they neighbors wife"

Each religion is different and the comparisons of such sins and terms can be too. But IMO they are not at all funny, or able to be made joke of.

Maybe I take this a little too heavy as a serious topic and others do not.
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It is a serious matter and a little humor doesn't hurt. Sorry if I offened.
 
No offense taken really, I just take what should be serious to be as such and these topics are still of a very serious nature to me at this point in my life.

I personally try not to make light of things that I cannot explain, or do not understand, do not agree with, or still need to ask questions about.
 
dragonflyreptiles said:
Each religion is different and the comparisons of such sins and terms can be too..
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What I find particularly interesting in comparative religion is the relative weight of what is considered right and wrong. This lends genuine substance to the eons-long debate of whether morality is subjective or objective.
What do y'all think?
 
Would you take the answer that it's subjective and people try to make it objective? So many people like to think they are morally superior because the church says they are (or should be), but when you get down into the dirt and look at how they really live, too many are "Do as I say, not as I do". Few people actually walk the highroad because that's what they naturally prone to do. As with everything else, most people fall into the middle, but there are the extremes of complete lack of morality (psychopaths) and supreme morality (not religious...actual GOOD people because it not a part of them to be otherwise).

Also, nothing wrong with a bit of humor in an otherwise serious topic. Someone please ship me some Blue Bell chocolate...it's the BEST, and sadly not found up North.
 
A_Kendergirl said:
Would you take the answer that it's subjective and people try to make it objective? So many people like to think they are morally superior because the church says they are (or should be), but when you get down into the dirt and look at how they really live, too many are "Do as I say, not as I do". Few people actually walk the highroad because that's what they naturally prone to do. As with everything else, most people fall into the middle, but there are the extremes of complete lack of morality (psychopaths) and supreme morality (not religious...actual GOOD people because it not a part of them to be otherwise).

Also, nothing wrong with a bit of humor in an otherwise serious topic. Someone please ship me some Blue Bell chocolate...it's the BEST, and sadly not found up North.
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If you visit Texas we will polish off an entire half gallon together.

As far as the objective v. subjective, I have wrestled with this one for years.
Murder for instance.
I think there are exceptions to the general rule that one should not be allowed to just go out and kill people. Self defense. Defense of country. Defense of family.

But in general one should not, I think, just be able to go out on Saturday night and blow someone away (this applies Sunday through Friday also).
Do I feel that way because I want myself and my family to be safe, or is there a Rule of the Universe somewhere that says murder is wrong?

How do y'all feel? Are there Universal Rules or is all morality just human convention?
 
Well, in my opinion, it's just a human convention. If you happen to come upon that psychopath I mentioned, and he (or she) feels like killing you for your Blue Bell ice cream, I say take them out! Defending yourself from attack is a normal responce - attacking because you feel like it isn't. Most animals (thus not subjected to our rules) don't kill for pleasure, they kill to survive - there are few exceptions to this.
 
Perhaps generally animal instinct is acceptable, yet we also should be able to know right from wrong, and what is considered too much for a certain given situation.

A former employer always said, "let your conscience be your guide". Some folks lack that aspect, I think.
 
its not just the "7 sins" that are it...we sin every day...due to imperfection..but we are made in gods image..(not meaning physical) so we could display good characteristics..and control our sins in a way...for example...lying..thats a sin...although its natural for us to sin..its a definite possibility to go on w/ life w/ out lying...the more accurate knowledge we have about the bible..and the more we actually use that knowledge in our life..thats what helps us to control our sins...but back to the point..these 7 sins..along w/ the million others..are sins..whether we do it a little or a lot
 
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