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    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

    Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.

    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

    And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.
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I thought it was kinda funny hearing about the hysterical run on TP across the country, but with people actually doing it here, and not a square of TP is to be found in town, now I'm just irritated. Thankfully since we're a family of 6 when we purchase it we usually get quite a bit and had just resupplied before the rush.
 
I really don't understand this. Of all the things I need from the outside world, TP is not a high priority. Coffee, yes. Propane and gasoline, yes. Staple foods, yes. None of these have adequate substitutes, and all would be challenging to get along without.

We raised a child from birth using no disposable diapering products (diapers, wipes) -- except when we traveled more than a couple days -- so I guess the idea that TP would be impossible to get along without is pretty foreign to me.
 
It's weird. There is still plenty of canned food left on the shelves. I mean, if shipments of everything slow down due to COVID-19 and food supplies are disrupted, there won't be much need for TP.
 
I was just at the grocery store. TP is almost gone. I did see people buying it, but only one person buying only TP, and way too much of it.

The most sensible cart I saw had way too much Kraft Mac n Cheese in it -- now that's a sensible catastrophe stockpile. Around here, though, people buy a lot of that kind of junk, so maybe that shopper wasn't actually stockpiling. :)
 
The most sensible cart I saw had way too much Kraft Mac n Cheese in it -- now that's a sensible catastrophe stockpile. Around here, though, people buy a lot of that kind of junk, so maybe that shopper wasn't actually stockpiling. :)
Probably a mom who has kids home from school for the next 3 weeks. I stocked up on single-serving pizza, PB&J, another loaf of bread, lunch meat, cheese, mayo, etc. so kiddo can feed herself while I'm at work.
 
Good point. Parents with kids not going to school must really be in a jam. Are child care sorts of places still running?
 
Good point. Parents with kids not going to school must really be in a jam. Are child care sorts of places still running?
I haven't heard of day cares being shut down, and of course it would depend on the size of the day care. There are women who run it out of their homes and only take in 2-3 children per day for some extra sending money, versus the large commercial places with a ton of kids. I would think the latter would close before the former.

The biggest problem is for parents of elementary school kids who are too young to be home alone all day and who are now scrambling for child care. Thankfully mine is in high school so she's self-sufficient. I might pimp her out as a babysitter to the neighbors with younger kids though. :D
 
People are being told to self quarantine for two weeks. That means no leaving the house. That means you need stuff like food and toilet paper. What is the mystery?

I already overbuy supplies but stocked up extra water, TP, canned/dry goods, cat food, snake food, medicines and feminine products. Seems like a sensible thing to do. One of my trips was just water and TP. The next trip I got the other stuff. Now someone only focusing on TP and nothing else is kind of odd but perhaps they made multiple trips (when you see someone with only TP in their cart).
 
Yes, but the shelves don't empty from only people who have been diagnosed (those are the ones who are being told to self-quarantine, right?) -- there's only a few thousand of those. Empty shelves is everyone in town buying the same thing, something presumably everyone already has at least some of.

How much TP does a household go through in two weeks? Not multiple big bricks.
 
Yes, but the shelves don't empty from only people who have been diagnosed (those are the ones who are being told to self-quarantine, right?) -- there's only a few thousand of those. Empty shelves is everyone in town buying the same thing, something presumably everyone already has at least some of.

How much TP does a household go through in two weeks? Not multiple big bricks.

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I meant to put this is one reason why people were buying so much. People like this make me sick. The thing is a lot of these pricks were the ones buying 20 packages a few weeks ago because they planned on this so that people who really do need some for themselves now are screwed. If I run out I'm wiping my ass on some of my old T shirts then I am packing them up and sending them to this clown.
 
I read that Amazon is trying to prevent people from price gouging on these sorts of products. Amazon is also sold out of major brands of TP, too.
 
Yes, but the shelves don't empty from only people who have been diagnosed (those are the ones who are being told to self-quarantine, right?) -- .


I guess I should have said 'in anticipation of'
If someone is suspect or actually diagnosed, one would hope they are not then going out to the store!
 
I guess I should have said 'in anticipation of'
If someone is suspect or actually diagnosed, one would hope they are not then going out to the store!

Yeah, I guess that makes sense.

Considering that the same sort of situation exists every single year with influenza (might get it, should stay home/will be unable to leave home, hard to get supplies) it is unfortunate that we aren't simply ready as a matter of course. Then again, we need reminders to wash our hands, so...
 
I read that Amazon is trying to prevent people from price gouging on these sorts of products. Amazon is also sold out of major brands of TP, too.
Amazon still has the stuff on the huge rolls that is used in commercial facilities, or the bulk single-ply smaller rolls. Office supply stores like Grainger still have it all in stock too. It's not Ultra-Soft Fresh Scent Charmin but you can still get cleaned up with it.

Many large-chain grocery stores recently started offering online ordering with free delivery. So, if you don't have enough food in the house for two weeks you can order it. Amazon sells non-perishable foods as well.
 
Luckily my wife buys the huge packages that last us 6 months and were already stocked up before any of this happened. At work my supplier has everything labeled "antibacterial" back stocked.

Everyone at work wants those antibacterial lotions posted near work stations. I said sure, right after this virus thing is over....
 
Yes, but the shelves don't empty from only people who have been diagnosed (those are the ones who are being told to self-quarantine, right?) -- there's only a few thousand of those. Empty shelves is everyone in town buying the same thing, something presumably everyone already has at least some of.

How much TP does a household go through in two weeks? Not multiple big bricks.

Well in my case, I am planning on going on lockdown pretty soon. TOTAL LOCKDOWN. The fly in this ointment is that Connie is waiting on some bridgework for her teeth to be made so the dentist can fit it in her mouth. This is expected to be around the 23rd of this month. To say I am not real keen on the dentist and his assistant sticking their gloved fingers in her mouth is quite an understatement. They seem to be pretty good about sanitation, but still, this is apparently a very highly contagious organism we are dealing with.

Florida is now showing 115 confirmed infections of COVID-19. Fortunately none in our immediate vicinity. Luckily I live in an area that just doesn't wind up on very many people's list of travel destinations. But I feel like we are playing Beat The Clock. Just because there are no confirmed infections in my area doesn't mean there are guaranteed no infections here. Sporing break for FSU is March 16—March 20. So after March 20, those students will be coming back, perhaps from some areas that there are active infections present.

I have read that someone becoming infected with this coronavirus becomes infectious in about 12 hours, but might not exhibit any symptoms for an average of 14 days, and as many as 28 days. The virus itself can live in open air for 3 hours. And on some surfaces for several days. Both Connie and I are over 65 years old. Put that all together and you have a pretty alarming picture.

So our goal with going into lockdown is to try to AVOID becoming infected. The question with an unknowable answer is: How long will that have to be?

I suspect that many other people are doing the same thing, hence their plans on purchasing now stocks of items that they may need in the upcoming MONTHS of being in self imposed isolation. Think they won't be needing toilet paper? Well think this through. Because unless they have a much different idea about person hygiene and cleanliness than I do, yes, they will. If they are locked down for months, that means no running out to the grocery store to get more until it looks like things have gotten much better and the chances of becoming infected have been greatly reduced.

If this gets bad enough, it won't just be a matter of grocery stores running out of product until the deliveries can catch up with demand. Truck drivers will get sick too, and the rest might justifiably be fearful enough of becoming infected to just quit their jobs and go into lockdown themselves. Which means the shelves in grocery stores could STAY empty for quite a while. Once any employee at a grocery store becomes infected, pretty much that store will be closed and sealed. Maybe temporarily to be disinfected, perhaps much longer since employees will likely leave, and supply trucks aren't showing up anyway. If you have not prepared, what are you going to do then?

Yeah, I know, a lot of people think this isn't possible in a country like the USA. I hope they are right. I would much rather be wrong myself about the potential, but the risk TO ME of them being wrong is a whole lot greater than the risk of me being wrong instead. When you catch a virus, you keep a virus.

Yeah, I sure would like to think that other countries like China, Iran, Italy, etc. have just been kidding us all along about their battle with this virus. But how likely is that? And this is only the first introduction to a *new* pathogen that is highly capable of frequent and unpredictable mutations. One that, as best I can tell, is going to be around for a long damn time now that it is here. There are already at least two strains running now, with one being worse than the other. Are there more today? Going to be more tomorrow?

Find and try to understand technical papers from people who have been studying this virus. You may find some of them damn eye opening. Try to make your decisions about what to do now based on as many facts as you can gather around yourself. Doesn't sound too bad to you? That is fine. But don't condemn others who might come to a different conclusion and are taking what they believe are sensible precautions.

Hope for the best, but dammit, don't you think it might be wise to plan for the worst? At least a little bit? Just figure out your own personal cost of being wrong either way and act accordingly.

IMHO.
 
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How much TP does a household go through in two weeks?

Two weeks is the quarantine time frame within which symptoms may develop after possible exposure. However, if one does develop symptoms and is infected, illness and recovery can prolong that time and one certainly would not want an infected person to go out and buy supplies.

Remember too that families are involved. There may be a family of 5, school is closed, parents now working from home. They are going for basic social distancing to protect themselves and others so naturally want to buy supplies ahead to reduce exposure risk. This means 1) they are using more food and other supplies than they did when they were out for most of the day and 2) It is possible that if a family member shows symptoms, even if he/she quarantines into a room, other family members may become infected but at different rates, greatly extending the isolation time. (This is what happens on the cruise ships). And there has been some discussion about re-infection after recovery.

Mild infections may not shed much virus after 10 days from when symptoms manifest, severe infections more than that. Of course, there are still big gaps in our knowledge. To me it makes sense to take sensible precautions and that means buying supplies. I already do some prep so did not have to run out and buy, but I certainly understand those who just recently have come to understand that this may be a MUCH longer haul than anyone expects.

Social isolation, 'flattening the curve' means trying to stay out of harm's way until such time that if you or a loved one does get infected and it is a severe case, that there is medical staff/ventilators available to try to save your life. They have done forecasts showing that the more social isolation and less exposure all at one time that a country has, the more people will actually survive.
 
People need to understand that by the time a person becomes symptomatic, they were already spreading around the virus for maybe 2 weeks. This is not like most other virus infections. This one is like something that some insane scientist designed to have it spread as far as possible and as quickly as possible. Not saying that it was lab created, but not saying that is impossible, neither. What I find worrisome is that when it first showed up in China, they acted like they knew exactly what it was and they knew it wasn't just a common cold.

What worries me the most is the very early nature of our experience with it. Is it carrying a payload that might not show up for months or even years? If so, by then it will way too late for people to start thinking, "heck, I should have tried much much harder not to catch this thing."

I, for one, sure as hell hope that this doesn't live up to some of the worst things I have read about the possibilities of it. And I would feel a hell of a lot better if the internet was just flooded with accounts directly from the supposed "recovered" victims, showing they are just fine and dandy now.
 
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