read this from jerry tubbs

Author Subject: read this from jerry tubbs
Jerry Posted At 12:17:27 06/06/2001
my email is running now so that i can reply ....i posted on here and boi casue it was the only way at the time i knew how to let people know what was going on ...... i think ive emailed everyone i have ongoing deals with but if i havent emails me [email protected] or call me 859 987 4222 and you will get a refund if you dont want to wait on the shipmemnts ..... i didnt want you ghuys to think i had run out like some others had ...i atleast had the decency to post on the form (which was the only way i knew how since i couldnt reply to emails ) that i was down for a few weeks ..... so i understand everyones concern and i appoligize for the lack of communication and for the inconviences.....ive done this personally threw email as of tonight but i also wanted to do it publicly in cas i left someone out thanks

i dont know what else to say or what i could have done diffrent ,but i am only interested in peoples snakes or money i have to email or call me .....and they will be given a full reason as from the day these troubles started up until now.....there is no stories no eccuses no lies (as alot of you think) there is my only explanation as too what happened ....so email me or call me 859 987 4222 and i will tell you the truth of what has been going on....... and to all you people who think ive run out or skipped town or stole your money ,well your just wrong.... if i was gonna do that i wouldnt have posted on here....i wouldnt have given an adress ....... i wouldnt have given my phone number.... i would have just up and left like a few other people did and never said a word..... but i came on here and tried to do things the only way i could at that time ....i could read my emails (and i never denied that) but i could not respond for some reason and that is now fixed ....my phone number was the same it was never changed or disconnected and it was given in the first thread and a follow up thread .... so how do all you people get i was trying to skip or run from you ?because i wasnt ....now with that said and with a public appoligy going out to everyone including people that really doesnt have a clue as to whjat is going on here, just get ahold of me (if you havent already) and ill explain in detail what was going on and when you can expect your goods ..... thanks
sincerely jerry tubbs
jim scharphorn Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4149.html Posted At 13:01:35 06/06/2001

for one jerry were is your full name i guess you cant do anything right and for two how could you post on hear back a thread and not email people personaly i never thought you were running on people i just think you had ways to take care of business and you thought it would be eseier to do it the way you did im glad im not in your shoes cause im sure your half washed up now there is more computors than your own you could of had your buddy email the people you needed to he sure posted on here for you so im sure you could have done it that way and you said your self you could read the emails but could not reply well if you can read then you have there email addys so what excuse do you have for that one ???? o i got it your phone was down to what a joke like i said before i cant wait to see whats next
enjoy cause i am
Jerry Tubbs Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4152.html Posted At 13:46:24 06/06/2001

for one jerry were is your full name<<< in my email adress there is my full name and "sincerely jerry tubbs" is my full name also
i guess you cant do anything right and for two how could you post on hear back a thread and not email people personaly <<<
i never thought you were running on people i just think you had ways to take care of business and you thought it would be eseier to do it the way you did<<< it was the only way i could do it at the time

im glad im not in your shoes cause im sure your half washed up <<< jim, im glad your not in my shoes also

now there is more computors than your own you could of had your buddy email the people you needed to he sure posted on here for you so im sure you could have done it that way<<< dont you remember all the stuff people said about me having other people post for me and that i should do it for my self ,well thats what i did

and you said your self you could read the emails but could not reply well if you can read then you have there email addys so what excuse do you have for that one ????<<<< "i think ive emailed everyone i have ongoing deals with" and " ve done this personally threw email as of tonight" so did you read that part or not ,becuase if you did why did you ask when ot was right infront of you to read?

o i got it your phone was down to what a joke<<< " or call me 859 987 4222" and what about that ? the no. was posted in this thread and the first thread also ,jim

like i said before i cant wait to see whats next
enjoy cause i am <<< i know you are jim .... but let me ask you this why do you hate me so much ,when you dont even know me ...and why did you send a nasty email to that person and tell then the things you did when you dont even know me ? just curious because weve never dealt and as always i know you cant wait to see what happens next .....o yeah and thanks for not thinking i was running out on people
Jerry Tubbs Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4153.html Posted At 13:56:02 06/06/2001

i guess you cant do anything right and for two how could you post on hear back a thread and not email people personaly <<<<<<< "i think ive emailed everyone i have ongoing deals with" and " ve done this personally threw email as of tonight"
that is what that was supposed to have said .....now jim i answerewd all your questions ,so what others do you have ????
Devon Smith Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4158.html Posted At 14:58:44 06/06/2001

Well thw obvious is you use AOL, the service worked to allow you to sign on,post and so on, but the AOL e-mail didnt work?
Ok simple sign up with hotmail and send from there!
If this was an AOL e-mail virus which only effected your e-mail program then why has no one else heard about this new Aol E-mail virus? How did AOL solve your virus issue? Does this virus have a name so I can look out for it too.
Russ Bates Could you please use a period...once!
4161.html Posted At 15:26:56 06/06/2001

Jerry,
Sorry for the bad run of luck but do you think you could use a period, comma or exclamation point every now and then. A little bit of sentence structure goes a long way. Sorry to bag on you but I really think it could help your credibility.
Russ
BILLIE GARR Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4166.html Posted At 16:18:06 06/06/2001

Oh yeah the saga continues!! Today on "AS THE HERPWORLD TURNS" Jerry goes on record and says everything is up and running is it????? Only time will tell! Jim playing his part to a tee as the mad as hell man and the smartass remarks oh man them can't be taught that's gotta be instinct. I see an oscar going his direction. He's got my vote!!! Tune in later to find out: Does the virus have a name and if it doe's is it Mr. or Mrs. virus. Will Jerry take advice and work on his grammer? Will Jim well keep being Jim? stay tuned I know I will. BILLIE.
Jay Hunter Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4188.html Posted At 21:33:35 06/06/2001

Hey Russ, did you see Jims sentence structure and punctuation? No? That's because there is none! It's one big run-on sentence. Atleast Jerry uses periods and commas here and there. They might not be in the right places, but give him an E for effort! I don't see why people that haven't even done business with Jerry Tubbs bother to post negative things about him. I guess they have nothing better to do with their lives. As far as Jerry goes, did anybody ever stop to think that he may not be as computer literate as some of us? Maybe he doesn't know that Hotmail is free and that anybody can get an account. Atleast the guy posted that he was having problems and din't leave all these people completely hanging. I've seen othe dealers dissapear off the face of the earth never to be heard from again. So I say this, if you don't now or ever did have a dealing with him, stay out of it. Just my 2 cents from a literate person with common sense and decency . 3 things that alot of people who post here lack!
Devon Smith Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4195.html Posted At 23:35:01 06/06/2001

Hey Jay, this has just become the biggest joke.
Since you can't figure it out i'll help you.
If you go thru this board you will see lots and lots of excuses for bad deals and even his inability to ship for various reasons (some legit some not I suspect), but the AOL e-mail virus that allows you to sign on, read e-mail and even post but not send e-mail???
Ok this is truley where it just gets ridiculous.
I have AOL and guess what...Thats right no such virus.
The earlier excuses seemed more legit but in a short time it has turned into a circus. If you cannot honor a deal send the money/animals back, call, but to just post on forums as an excuse is no longer acceptable for Mr Tubbs at this point. The controversy is all of his making...Simple as that!
Jay Hunter Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4206.html Posted At 05:36:12 06/07/2001

Well Devon, I can see that some people are making a big joke out of it. I have to admit that some of the replies are funny. Like Russ, Billie and Toms. Hell, even part of my own was pretty damn funny. My main point was why is Jim tearing Jerry a new ass when he's never done business with him. I must say that I am looking forward to seeing how this all turns out.
BILLIE GARR Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4213.html Posted At 08:28:42 06/07/2001

I agree with Jay 100%. It's people like Jim who for some reason make it a point to rip Jerry ass when they have never done buisness with him. Wich I thinks total bullsh*t. Yeah I may make light of it every so often but you can look at the other threads and I've said the way I feel wich is the dealing I had with Jerry went great with no problems and I would do buisness in a minute again. I also made a statement that I would not go to bat for Jerry again I would like to say was an unfair statement and I would and will go to bat for Jerry again if the need arises. thanks billie.
Jerry Tubbs Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4218.html Posted At 09:40:07 06/07/2001

Ok I am taking the time to write better ( I hope) so take the time to read better. The first post on this thread , I said i emailed everyone i think , but if i didnt i left ways to get ahold of me .So please inform me as why dont you understand that . As far as not sending emails ,I never said it was a virus , I said i couldnt send emails . When i tryed to reply to an email I got a " your page has timed out". So me not being as pc literate as all of you guys i had a friend look at it . He said something bout my browser controls or settings was screwed up ,when we unplugged it without turning it off we messed something up . Well its up and running as I stated before and I also stated that I think I have emailed everyone, but if not email me please . I have never denied a refund , in fact if you read some of my threads I have offered a refund if noone wanted to wait for me to ship . So in closing i hope this clears things up for some of you and i guess you all are gonna bash me now for the way I wrote this , huh ............lol............ Sincerely Jerry Tubbs
chad bisbing Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4235.html Posted At 16:00:21 06/07/2001

Much better Jerry. Keep working on it!
Russ Bates Outstanding job!
4252.html Posted At 18:54:32 06/07/2001

Jerry,
That was very good, thanks for the taking the time and effort to present yourself professionally.

Hey Jay.......Peace!
Glenn Bartley Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4267.html Posted At 23:12:18 06/07/2001

Hi everyone,

I don't know exactly what has been going on with the Jerry Tubbs situation; but I was asked to give a reference so I will. I did business with Jerry about a month and a half ago or so, and my order was delivered as promised, no delays, and the animals (baby Ball Pythons) were just as described. His communication with me was very good and courteous. I can only hope that, if as it seems some of you have not received your orders from him, that he will straighten out the problem soon. I did some checking on him before I made my purchase from him, and he had almost all very good references; out of many there were only one or two dissatified customers. Based on those references and my experience with him I can only imagine that he is be telling you guys the truth and that he had some sort of computer problems. If he was out to heist your cash, I don't think he would have tried to contact you by posting a message. Good luck to all, I hope it get ironed out. And Jerry, thanks again for the great service.
Glenn Bartley Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4268.html Posted At 23:35:21 06/07/2001

Hi Everyone,

I hope this will not post a second time, I tried once and it did not come up, so indulge me as I try one more time.

I recently did business with Jerry Tubbs, I bought some baby ball pythons from him about a month and a half or so ago. The snakes were delivered as promised with no problems. Jerry's communications with me, while the deal was going on, were great. He answered my questions in a timely, professional and courteous manner. We made a deal, I paid, and he sent the snakes. All arrived alive and looking good. Almost all are eating well (you know those ball pythons are picky eaters). About a week or so after the delivery of the snakes, Jerry contacted me by email to ask how they were doing and if I was happy with the deal. I certainly was, and I can tell you that not many people check after a sale like Jerry did. That was a nice touch, certainly nothing that I think a dishonest person would do. I understand that some of you have experienced problems with contacting Jerry, and with delivery of your orders; I am hopeful that Jerry is telling the truth and has had computer problems. Based on my experience with him and based upon references I got about him (very positive for the great majority with only one or two negative out of many) I would imagine that he is telling the truth and that he will do his best to make things better. And Jerry, thanks again for the great service.
Alvaro Garcia Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4285.html Posted At 11:42:25 06/08/2001

I will have to second Glenn Bartley's comments. I have dealt with Jerry for a few months now. He has always replied in an appropriate way and tried to find solutions to personal problems. He has sipped animals for me in the past and never had a problem. In fact I just got in touch with him after this "situation" to see if he could get more animals for me.

Sincerely,

Alvaro
JOE FLEENOR Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4315.html Posted At 00:31:09 06/09/2001

HEY, ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT JERRY HAS DONE ME RIGHT,THIS TIME AS WELL AS OTHER TIMES.I LIKE DOING BUSINESS WITH JERRY AND WILL DO BUSINESSZ WITH JERRY IN THE FUTURE.ONE THING THAT I HAVE LEARNED IN LIFE IS WHEN EVERYONE IS PUTTING ONE PERSON DOWN IT IS THAT ONE PERSON THAT IS DOING WHAT HE OR SHE CAN TO DO THINGS RIGHT!FROM WHAT I HAVE READ IT IS THE PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T DONE BUSINESS WITH JERRY THAT IS CAUSEING ALL THE FUSS.WELL AT LEAST JERRY IS TAKEING CARE OF BUSINESS,SO WHY NOT GIVE A GUY A BREAK?HELL IT MIGHT BE ME OR YOU SOMEDAY IN THE SAME SITUATION!THANKS,ROWDY
Ron Dean Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4369.html Posted At 21:01:39 06/10/2001

Jerry has always been honest, knowledgable, sincere, informative, and very credible. For those out there with a need to lash out at such a person...shame on you! If only some of you had half the values (honesty, integrity, the importance of standing on your word, along with family commitment) you would live a much fuller life...a life perhaps of understandng and the acceptance to believe what you may not understand...Oh what a wonderful world that would be eh? For those that can only "fault" another for not being "perfect", try to take the "hate" from the hobby, and replace it with compassion & understanding...it might just make you as great a person as Jerry IS! I would not even hesitate for one minute to do business with Jerry again...I find it very refreshing TO KNOW, someone like him exists....and I have been given the priviledge to have known him!!! Keep up the great work Jerry, you'll get beyond this, and hopefully THOSE WITH THE PROBLEMS will be able to also!!!!!!
mike Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4413.html Posted At 18:56:23 06/11/2001

Jerry is a great guy to deal with, i recentanlly purchased some snakes from him and was able to pick them up at his house today... while i was there i tried to help him fix his computer.. His email is VERY much shut down, there is NO WAY to send email from his PC... so i will be witness to the fact he can NOT EMAIL but is able to get online.. so I know know why he couldn't email but could only post on forums.. But he has assured me he will be up and running again by the end of the month.. i was very pleased with the snakes and i'm glade i did the deal. .. in the past 2 years i've been dealing with jerry this is the only time i've known Jerry to have any problems.. but i assure you it's with he PC and not with his buisness or animals.. the snakes are very top quality and well worth the money spent.. If anyone want to talk with me about him please feal free to email me.. Thanks
Jeremiah Goode Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4415.html Posted At 19:18:32 06/11/2001

Heres my thoughts... I am getting really tired of seening "Jerry Bash Fest".. Seems that everyone seems to think they know whats going on when all they ever do is read the post and haven't ever delt with Jerry. If anyone should be getting bashed on it should be those that are out there for strickly ripping people off. Jerry is a good guy, the kind of person that makes the herp scene a good place. I have known Jerry for serval months now.. Theres no one I would trust more to get a snake from. I'll trust Jerry's word as much as I would trust any respected herper.
Drew Poland Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4423.html Posted At 22:33:24 06/11/2001

i was just breezing through some sites and i saw this and it kind of made me mad becuase i have did alot of business with Jerry and he has always told me the truth about everything and all the snakes i had recieved from him have been exactly what he told me and always are very healthy and for the quality of animals he has his prices are sweeeet and not many people will email you every week or 2 to ask how your snakes are doing and if you have any questions i have only been into herps for maybe 2 years and jerry was and is the most helpful person i have ever talked to and did business with
every animal i have right now except 1 or 2 i have gotten from jerry and i have 10 animals


thanks,
[email protected]
Brett Ward Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4427.html Posted At 22:53:01 06/11/2001


I've been reading what has been going on here regaurding JERRY, it's getting a bit rediculous. I have done a few deals with jerry and found he is the most honest man on this whole site, he has laid everything out on whats going on and has offered money back, what more can the man do! I will continue to use jerry without thinking twice! The last time i saw this kind of bashing was in grade school, there are a couple of you who need to handle this in more of an adult manner. All i have to say is thanks for the great service jerry.
Jerry Tubbs Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4428.html Posted At 23:05:09 06/11/2001

Well I just wanted to let everyone know my email was shut down again for awhile today,but is up and running just fine now . So I hope you people will see that I'm trying to write better just to prove that I am in fact a good person.I hope (since everyone told me to write better)this proves that ,I listen to you guys so maybe you all should read a little closer before jumping on me when you have never even dealt with me .Out of all the bad comments on here there are only 3( yes thats right 3) that have ever actually dealt with me and 2 of those were corrected. The 3rd will be corrected in a coup[le more days . So you shouldn't judge a book by the cover ,especially if you've never even read the book.
Sally Bice Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4429.html Posted At 23:09:41 06/11/2001


I just wanna say my dealings with Jerry Tubbs have been good. The animals I purchased from him (1.1 black backed ball pythons) I picked up at his home where I got to view his entire collection of which all looked healthy and where in clean cages. I wouldn't hesitate to purchase other animals from him in the future.
terri carnes Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4437.html Posted At 09:39:43 06/12/2001

i havent had any deals with jerry in a while but would not have a problem doing so.he helped me alot when i was new at this.(hell im still new at this.) keep on herping jerry. a lot of us think you a great guy. MY TWO CENTS WORTH
Mark Finch Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4448.html Posted At 12:18:08 06/12/2001

I have done business with Jery and have been very pleased with the quality of the animals and the timely shipment. I will do business with him again in the future.
Winston Tsai Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4463.html Posted At 16:36:04 06/12/2001

Jerry have send me excellent baby ball python. they are all doing great and feeding like a pig. Def. go with Jerry's animals because his the man!
Robert Barbour Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4466.html Posted At 17:44:30 06/12/2001

I bought a boa from Jerry Tubbs and it arrived alive and marked exactly as he described. I have no complaints. Now if he can come up with a male to match her.....Yes I would buy from him again.
ROBERTA BYRD Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4473.html Posted At 21:19:16 06/12/2001

I WAS JUST SCANNING DOWN THRU HERE AND REALIZED SOMETHING. I DON'T THINK ALL THIS BASHING IS WHAT THIS SITE IS FOR. IT IS MEANT TO INFORM PEOPLE OF FACTUAL BAD OR GOOD DEALINGS. NOT OPINIONS OF PEOPLE'S GRAMMER AND SUCH. WE ARE SUPPOSE TO BE ADULTS, YET WE ARE ACTING LIKE GRADE SCHOOL KIDS. I DEALT WITH JERRY ONCE AND DID NOT GET RIPPED OFF. I AM NOT SAYING YOU WILL OR WON'T HAVE A GOOD OR BAD EXPERIENCE.IF YOU HAD A BAD EXPERIENCE WHEN DEALING WITH THIS MAN, THEN TELL US! IF YOU HAD A GOOD EXPERIENCE, THEN TELL US THAT TOO! THIS NAME CALLING AND CHILDISH BASHING IS FOR THOSE STUPID CHAT ROOMS I HEAR ABOUT. LET'S KEEP THIS A PROFESSIONAL AND INFORMATIVE SITE!!! IT IS A GOOD THING WE HAVE HERE, DON'T WANNA LOSE IT!! AFTER ALL, IT WAS THIS WEBSITE THAT SAVED ME FROM FALLING VICTOM TO A FRAUD!!!
SINCERELY, ROBERTA BYRD
Dan Warner Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4557.html Posted At 11:01:40 06/15/2001

I recently bought 10 baby ball pythons from Jerry and everything went smoothly. The snakes looked great when they arrived and they are all doing great. Thanks for some great snakes, Jerry!
Andrew Anders Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4970.html Posted At 23:53:39 06/27/2001

well, a few hours ago i received the snakes jerry agreed to send in our trade, so whats done is done, and i have the snakes i traded for.
Andrew Anders Re: read this from jerry tubbs
4971.html Posted At 00:36:20 06/28/2001

oh, and im happy with the snakes, theyre all i expected, 2 are exceptionally plump.
TAMMY DOUGLAS Re: read this from jerry tubbs
5051.html Posted At 11:18:58 07/01/2001

ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT JERRY TUBBS SOLD ME 10 BABY BALL PYTHONS AND THEY ARRIVED IN GREAT CONDITION AND ARE EATING VERY WELL AND THAT HE CAME THROUGH WITH THE DEAL AND I AM VERY PLEASED WITH MY PURCHASE, AND I WILL BYE FROM JERRY TUBBS IN THE FUTURE. THANKS JERRY FOR THE WONDERFUL BABY BALLS I AM EVEN KEEPING A FEW FOR MYSELF. MY HUSBAND IS NOT THAT PLEASED THAT I AM KEEPING MORE SNAKES BUT THATS THE BREAKS. HA HA
TAMMY DOUGLAS Re: read this from jerry tubbs
5052.html Posted At 11:27:14 07/01/2001

ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT I BOUGHT 10 BABY BALL PYTHONS FROM JERRY TUBBS AND THEY ARRIVED IN GREAT CONDITION AND ALL ARE VERY ACTIVE AND EATING WELL. I WOULD RECOMEND HIM TO MY FRIENDS AND I WILL BUY FROM HIM AGAIN IN THE FUTURE. HE PROMISED THAT I WOULD GET THE PURCHASE AND I AM VERY PLEASED AND I AM SO PLEASED THAT I AM KEEPING A FEW FOR MY PERSONAL PETS NOW MY HUSBAND ON THE HAND IS NOT THAT PLEASED THAT I AM KEEPING MORE SNAKES. HA,HA,HA
Winston Tsai Re: read this from jerry tubbs
5078.html Posted At 21:55:41 07/01/2001

Hey ya'll Jerry had warn me before about a certain person " Fred Tribbett" whihc is a con artist. ( I am currently going to nail that bastard for mail fraud, because He messed with a guy who have a girlfriend who works for the FBI) Anyways I have always gotten good stuff from Jerry even though it was only one shippment of ball python but now, I'm ordering my second. As Roberta said this site is used for Option only of good or bad dealing with Jerry and He is a GOOD DEALER!!!!!!!11
Jerry Tubbs Re: read this from jerry tubbs
5204.html Posted At 09:38:57 07/04/2001

Hi everyone,
I just wanted ya to know I was up and running after my problems I had. I have got most my customers there snakes or monies back to them,but if I've not then email me
I'm trying to write this more legible ,because of complaints of not being able to read my postso please read this.

First matter Iwant to talk about is this good post bad post thing.Well to start it off there is this certain individual that had a conversation with a customer of mine and told him that all my bad posts are for real ,but the good ones come from my ISP and that i posted all them.All i can say is look it up if ya know how cause i dont .I mean come on I HAVE 60 plus on herpauction and 15 plus on the ks classifieds( which they get deleted every month) and have a few on here also.So check those ISP things Mr. D.L. and see if they come back to my ISP...... lol HA HA HA ....This person also states that his bp's are better than ANYONES . To be honest he is just mad because on the herpauction and ks and here i was cheaper than him at importing time.I mean there is enough business for everyone and you dont have to get mad cause i was selling and you wasnt.He also staytes that Mark Lucas and Strickly's sells junk bp's anyways. He says they may be cheaper but not better.Well I sold 550 from Mark and i got nothing but good posts and repeat customers.I also sold 1000 or so from another importer/wholesaler that he says sells junk and guess what I got nothing but repeat customers and many thanks for those bp's as well.This same person states c/h farm raised are not the same.He says his eats several times and have been dewormed before ever leaving Africa.So that makes his superior to anyones. bottom line is they are all from the same area(s). Oh ,yeah one more thing MR. D.L. you told this customer I dont have the balls to call you ,well give me that phone# and youll be once again proved wrong.
Jerry Tubbs Re: read this from jerry tubbs
5208.html Posted At 10:43:35 07/04/2001


Second lets look at this good post / bad post thing a minute.The bad post are from someone who has not dealt with me or from someone who has came back and said I fulfilled my debt with them like I said I would after June 22.These people called me and was told what the problem was and understood "bad things happen to good people".SO if ya feel up to it call me and you'll understand too. 859 987 4222 I have only 3 bad post across the net and 1 was made right within that week the other will be made right this week and the 3rd(is just a long story),but the person deserves nothing IMHO.I mean guarantees are guarantees but after a month thats a little too long to guarantee a pr of snakes and this matter has been over a year ago or there abouts and if it was all that he says then tell me why the hell did he make a good post for me? Like I said if your in doubt, email all these good/bad posts and you'll see you'll get a 100%return on all the good ones and about no return on the bad ones.SO MR. D.L. dont forget to give me that phone # and check those ISP.

Third this is to the webmaster . You say follow those rules,but let's look at this and tell me what I'm missing please?This is copied and pasted :
"Opinions are acceptable as long as it is PLAINLY stated that you are stating an opinion. Facts are: dates, value of transactions, actual quoted conversations, and the like. Opinons are: YOUR interpretations of motives, business practices or impressions of the person with whom you had conversations with. Keep these FIRMLY in mind when you are posting your message.

"whom you had conversations with" OK tell me this if a person has never talked dealt or wrote to you(me) then how is there post valid? It plainly states to "whom you had conversations with" so if there was no deal or discussion of a deal then how can they know what went on? There is 2 sides to every argument or discussion, correct?I'm not trying to start a flame war with you I'm just curious as to what im missing here as i greatly appreciate this site along with many many others. So please explain for me .

Well this is all I have to say . Thanks for reading ........



PS I would like to thank all you men and women (to many to mention) who have stood behind me threw this and for all your thoughts and encouraging emails a big THANK YOU goes out to yu guys
Bill Howard Re: read this from jerry tubbs
5648.html Posted At 10:46:54 07/11/2001

Tthi is the first time I have ordered anything on line I do not like to by anything I can't touch but I thought I would give Jerry a try I ordered 10 ball pythons from him and got them when he said i would. they were the healthest and the best markings i have ever seen. Jerry is very helpfull on mistakes you might make after you get your snakes, he wont forget you after the sale. I hope to be ordering more from him Thanks Jerry PS jerry i always say that when people talk about me they are leaving someone else alone
BRITTNEY LATIL & JOEY SMITH Re: read this from jerry tubbs
5890.html Posted At 20:56:37 07/16/2001

WELL IT SEEMS JERRY DID ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT SNAKES FROM HIM GOOD, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE HE HAS TRADED WITH (INCLUDING MYSELF) ARE VERY UNHAPPY...I GUESS IF YOU GIVE HIM MONEY HE DOES YOU GOOD, BUT IF YOU TRADE HIM I GUESS YOU AREN'T AS IMPORTANT TO HIM, BECAUSE HE SCREWED ME BIG TIME!!!AND AFTER I LET SOME PEOPLE KNOW, HE HAS LIED ABOUT IT AND STILL WON'T ADMIT HE IS WRONG!!!! I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE SNAKES HE SELLS, BUT I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND DOING ANY TRADES WITH HIM! AND BY THE WAY, I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU PEOPLE WERE ASKED BY JERRY TO GIVE THOSE REFERENCES. I KNOW THAT LOTS OF YOU WOULD NOT HAVE MADE THOSE POSTS BY YOUR OWN WILL, AND I KNOW HE HAS TO ASK MOST PEOPLE TO POST FOR HIM. HE ASKED ME TO POST FOR HIM AFTER I GOT THE SNAKES I TRADED FOR..WHICH TOOK 3 MONTHS TO GET TO ME...AND HERE YOU GO JERRY, HERE IS YOUR POST...I AM VERY DISSATISFIED!!! AND YOU REPLY TO YOUR OWN POSTS MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE, JERRY!!! DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO? AS FOR THOSE OF YOU JERRY DID RIGHT, YOU ARE LUCKY PEOPLE, BECAUSE HE DID TERRIBLE BUSINESS WITH ME!!! AND YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN THE WAY HE KILLED ONE OF THE SNAKES BY THE WAY HE SHIPPED THEM!! FOR DETAILS, SEE THE FIRST POST UP THERE FROM JERRY THAT HAS LIKE 47 REPLIES..AND YOU CAN READ THE WHOLE STORY, AND THEN YOU CAN READ JERRY'S EXCUSES AND JUSTIFICATIONS. THE FACT IS HE MAY NOT HAVE LIED TO YOU PEOPLE BUT HE LIED TO ME AND NOW HE IS THREATENING ME SAYING HIS LAWYERS ARE GONNA CONTACT ME BECAUSE I SLANDERED HIM!!! WHATEVER! I JUST TOLD THE TRUTH AND IF THAT IS WRONG THEN I AM GUILTY AS CHARGED!!! I HATE YOU JERRY TUBBS!

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