I am sorry about everything, please read everyone

Author Subject: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
jeremy rennison Posted At 09:43:25 07/06/2001
ok, I am sorry for everything I have done, I haven't been lying to anyone, I got deperate and had a friend right that about me on there, I know noone will want to buy snakes from me for hearing everything about me... I just am getting started doing this, I am 16 years old, I am still a 'rookie' at this, even though I know a lot about snakes, and definately a lot about mine, I am not ever going to rip someone off, and I am sorry if I have changed my mind on stuff, or whatever.. I was just trying to get everyone to like me, which I tried to do the easy way, and look what I did to my self, I hope everyone reads this, and never trys to get people to like them by having friends put stuff for you... but if you email all the people I have ever sold snakes to, or traded, they will tell you I am a good guy, I was stupid for doing that, and that I wont rip you off... I just want everyone to know, I am not going to be pulling anymore stunts like this, I know what you are thinking.. but I will never do this agian, I realized how serious all this is, and that you will get caught everytime.. I promise nothing like this will EVER happend agian, I am really sorry... I did not do that to sell more snakes, I did that because people weren't beleiving me about what snakes I had, and didn't have.. thank you, and good bye
jeremy rennison Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5377.html Posted At 09:47:35 07/06/2001

I meant, I haven't lied about the snakes I own, I do have every snake I put up forsale, and prob have more, I meant I lied about having my friend put that messege for me, he did buy a snake from me, but he posted it on my computer, and he lives around here, ok... sorry again
steve barringer Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5380.html Posted At 10:18:09 07/06/2001

well jeremy, like i said originally, the truth shall set you free.
you did a wise and brave thing by coming here and being so honest. understand though, that an apology and the truth is not going to make you trustworthy imediately, but you're young and you've got the time to wait out the time it's gonna take you to regain everyones confidence.
just make sure you stick to what you've said you will, and be sure all your customers are happy. in time, you'll be one of the good guys.
one thing i'd like to mention. you seem to use the fact that you're young as an excuse for the things you've done, if you really believe yourself, then you're not ready to be selling live animals. personally i feel that if you've got the cahonas to come on here with the honesty that you did, then i think you're pretty close to being someone who can one day be a good guy.
i wish you luck buddy,
steve
Tom Burns Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5381.html Posted At 10:45:11 07/06/2001

Although the story about the $650 Basin that escaped was definitely a load of crap, you've shown me something by not disappearing into the woodwork like most rip off artists do. It's one thing to "tell stories" in an attempt to bolster your credibility (your not the only one who's done that!), but it's quite another to actually rip someone off (I'm not aware that you've done this, yet). My advice would be for you to get a digital camera, and to not stray to far from your above mentioned promises, because 3rd chances are rarely given in life...
jeremy rennison Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5383.html Posted At 11:16:26 07/06/2001

I am not lying about having that amazon, I had one, for aobut two days, left for work, came home, and it was gone. you don't have to beleive it, but I asure everyone that I have every single snake I say I own, I am in the process of getting a digital camera, but I do have pics of the snakes I own, and I no that it is going to take a while for me to regain anyones trust, but I never had the trust of anyone here, and the people that know me, still trust me, ask them ask for there emails... after I get these two big deals over with, they are going to post, that I was honest, and sent good snakes, well, we will here it in there words... you say 'like' most rip off articts, how am I a rip off artist, I have never ripped anyone off, or will... just all the crap I have gone through on here in the last 24hours, It has even doubled the reason why I should never even try to rip someone off, hopefully others will learn this also, I hate getting ripped off, and don't want others to feel the same way I do when I get ripped off... sorry again, and bye
Brian Oakley Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5395.html Posted At 14:08:47 07/06/2001

Jeremy,
I THINK I understand what happened here, but I have a question. You or someone said that you had the snakes priced too high so they would not sell. IF I am understanding that correctly, is that the same deal with the pair of boas you put up? JUST MY OPINION, but $350 for a pair of boas is a little steep isn't it?


I did not put this in the other thread, but if you can sell them for that, then more power to you I guess!

NOT AN ATTACK, just my thoughts!

(I feel like I have to say that every time I open my mouth) :)
Brian Oakley
Ritchie Luna Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5400.html Posted At 14:17:21 07/06/2001

Okay now get your friend Joe Phillips to own up to the fact that he lied when he started posting untrue good things about you.
Sal Thomas Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5402.html Posted At 14:48:08 07/06/2001

Being young is one thing...but you're a minor....if you did "screw up" again, you do know your parents will have to take the fall for your misdeeds right?....you attempted to decieve us by having your friend post untrue positive things about you, soley so you could go on selling snakes....when things got a little heated, your first response was to BS...that tells a lot about your character, my young friend.

Sal Thomas
jeremy rennison Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5403.html Posted At 15:11:18 07/06/2001

ok, I did not lie about making my friend tell 'untrue' things about me, ok, I race motorcycles, on the weekends, and my friend jospeh bought a snake from me, he is a friend from the races, and he doesn't have a computer, and I asked him if he could post on there about how I showed him good service and all, on my computer, and he used my old email address, he did not make up all that, he DID buy a pair of candycane corns from me, about two days ago, and I just ask all my customers, if they feel I treated them right, if they could post that I am a good guy and all, but it was kinda wrong to have him use my computer, and my old email address, I shouldn't of had someone like that, do it, bacause it REALLY made it look like I was trying to make MYSELF look good, which I don't want to make myself look good, I want my customers to know I am honest, and stuff... and I am sorry for doing that, and Brian. I put my redtails for that much, well, as soon as I get pics, I will show you why I think they are worth 350, but I was just putting them at that price for a while, then lower it to 300, ok... understand??? I used to put my snakes up forsale for high prices, cause I want't REALLY interested in selling them, but woudl for that price, do you get what I mean??? again, I am sorry for all confusion, and thank you for all who has helped me learn with this mistake... bye
Brian Oakley Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5407.html Posted At 15:26:58 07/06/2001

I am not doubting that they are nice. At the same time they are good old Columbians right? If so, they are a dime a dozen. Are either of them proven breeders? IF not, in my opinion, I would not pay more than $200 for the pair.

As far as this other deal with your friend. He is local, in otherwords, close to you? If that is the case then why would you have to box them up. He said that he got the box, opened it up, and pulled the two bags out. Now, I may not be quoting him exactly, but you get the drift. Now, after reading that, look at the first line of your last post. I am not saying that you are lying, but that seems to be pretty intense packaging for hand delivering a couple snakes.
Brian oakley
jeremy rennison Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5408.html Posted At 15:28:26 07/06/2001

ok, I did have him lie about one thing, that I foregot to post, that he made it sound like I shipped him to them, cause he only lives 20min. away... I am sorry, I shouldn't of had him say that... we are both really sorry, and yes, I can drive, have for a year almost, and the candycanes are not 20 a piece, I sold my last pair for 250, bleieve it or not, that shows that people really know the quality of my snakes, cuase it was someone that bought from me before, ok... again, I am sorry I had him say that, the reason he did get them so fast is, well, he comes over a lot... just put it that way, we are both sorry, we will never do this again, I promise... I have definately learned a BIG lesson this lst tow days, thanx agian, and bye
Roger Jolly Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5413.html Posted At 16:20:26 07/06/2001

So let me get this straight. You lied, and asked your friend to lie for you, but now you are all reformed (only after you got caught with your pants down around your knees). Is that how it is? You had no other choice but to 'fess up, now did you?

If there is one thing I have learned, that if someone got caught in a lie, then that wasn't the only one they made, and certainly not the last one. Somewhere along the line they got it ingrained into their soul that lying is OK as long as you don't get caught. Then if you get caught, try to lie your way out of it. I'm pretty certainly I am not the only person on earth who has run into many people like that.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm getting tired of hearing this kid whining about how cruel the world is and not having a clue about why we don't want to trust him.

Do us all a favor, Jeremy, go away and come back when you are all grown up. And it's really nothing personal. I wouldn't like anybody that was like you.
Ritchie Luna Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5415.html Posted At 16:22:38 07/06/2001

Nice try.....you are still trying to be sneaky. Because if you forgot, he was on here asking about you. If you all were friends from the races......why would he have to post an inquiry about you? Pretending not to know you. Get your lies in a row before you start posting stuff.
George Maloney Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5416.html Posted At 16:24:10 07/06/2001

Let us cut to the chase here: STUPID PEOPLE SHOULDN'T LIE! They will never be able to keep their story straight.

Unfortunately, most stupid people are too dumb to realize they are too stupid to keep a lie.

God I love this place!
jeremy rennison Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5419.html Posted At 16:47:13 07/06/2001

I know, that was what I said I was sorry for lying about, I said I was sorry for trying to make it look like he was far away... and I am not STUPID george, just a teenager... sorry everybody.. I did DO something stupid... and I am sorry, please foregive me
Brian Oakley Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5420.html Posted At 17:00:58 07/06/2001

Jeremy,

I have NO IDEA who you are, but here issome advice.
DROP the whole thing, everytime you speak you say, ok I lied about that too. Have you learned anything? If so, GOOD, move on and make better choices. Be honest about your animals. Ask fair prices, ship when you need to, drop off or have others pick up when needed, and you will be fine. You see, you cannot make a good name for yourself overnight, BUT you sure can destroy yourself in less time than that. I have been in the snake industry for 15 years. I have only been on kingsnake for 2 years. Have I made a good name for myself in 2 years? I hope so, but at the same time I know of one person who may not say that. That is ok, you or the next person or myself WILL make mistakes. This was not a mistake, it was PLAIN OUTRAGEOUSLY PATHETIC. You need to quit while you are ahead. If you have done something good for someone, great! It will come out sooner or later. You do not need to ask someone to post anything. I have never had my name on this board for GOOD or BAD reasons. Does that mean that nobody knows who I am? I doubt it. Does that mean others do not know the quality of myself and my animals? probably not. Word of mouth can be your best friend AND your worst enemy. Just because your name has not been up here with someone telling everyone else how great you are means nothing. MOVE ON!

Brian Oakley

PS. I still say your pair of columbians are only worth $200. :)
Ritchie Luna Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5421.html Posted At 17:23:26 07/06/2001

Okay I will stop going on the attack.........

Brian is right. Jeremy it is not necessary to have your name in lights as the good guy. Just be honest in everything you do. Be honest in everything you say. My name is not in here. It is not under bad....It not under good. If anyone does a keyword search, all they will see is me speaking my mind. Does that bother me...NO. Because I know I will still sell my animals. And I will still get to do trades or whatever with the bigger people in this business. If someone did an inquiry I know I will get a couple of people to respond with good stuff. I am also sure that absolutely no one will respond with bad stuff. Quit worrying about the good stuff. They will take care of themselves. Just worry about the bad. make sure the bad never happens.

One dissatisfied customer can do more bad publicity,
than ten sattisfied people could. In other words people are ready and willing to tell bad things about you. But the people you do good to, will usually keep the information to themselves.

Ritchie
Russ Bates Just go be a kid
5425.html Posted At 20:54:30 07/06/2001

Jeremy,
If your post are true and you actually are "16" then why don't you just enjoy collecting, breeding and trading your snakes to your immediate friends and not get wrapped around the axel selling over the internet. You are way to young to worry about being the next "Top 10 Snake Salesman"!

You have your entire life ahead of you to make a buck and those headaches will come soon enough! In the mean time, go be a teenager a bag a few young cheerleaders.
jeremy rennison Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5430.html Posted At 22:29:33 07/06/2001

you are funny Russ, but I have been selling snakes on the internet for a year now, and in that year I have bought 2300 dollars worth of snakes, and sold 3200 dollars worth of snakes, thats a pretty good profit for me, and everyone I have sold snakes to is happy so far, I have not sold snakes here on herpwantads long, maybe a month or two, I used to use classifieds2000, ok... I just enjoy trading and selling snakes on here, I got a lot of good friends, and a couple enemy's
Walter Hudson Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5433.html Posted At 23:16:57 07/06/2001

so are you telling the truth now??? Do u think were gonna believe you? I think ur still lying! You gave US the impression!
Roger Jolly Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5436.html Posted At 00:03:31 07/07/2001

So Jeremy is proud of the adult deals he's done on the net and made a profit like one of the adults. But when he gets caught in a screw up of his own making, he blames it on only being a teenager. You can't have it both ways bub. Maybe your parents are ok about turning away criticism of your actions by saying "he's only a child", but you can't use that as your cover forever.

Say, did you ever notice how your mom always seems to know when you are lying to her? Of course, maybe she doesn't let on so she won't hurt your feelings. Moms can be like that, you know. Well it happens in the real world outside, too, from perfect strangers. And the scary thing about it to you will be that you won't have a clue that you are perfectly transparent to everyone looking at you.

About time to grow up and stop making excuses. The roadway in the herp business is littered with people that thought they could take the fast road and lie themselves around the guys in the slow and steady lane. Tim Rainwater is only one of the latest ones to try that route. So maybe you can be the next.

Tammy Jenkins Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5439.html Posted At 06:45:45 07/07/2001

Didn't really want to add to this but something just caught my eye and I have to question it. If you sold this pair of candycanes on the 4th, he received them the 5th, then how could you have 1.2 candycane corns to post for sale on kingsnake classified on the 6th? Were you just trying to show off the snakes with a pic that didn't work or see just how many people would reply to the ad? Really don't know what to think of all of this, just hate seeing it.
jeremy rennison Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5441.html Posted At 07:18:30 07/07/2001

I have a 2.3 pair of okatees, and a 2.3 pair of candycanes right now, I have a pair of albinos, a pair of ghost, and a snow, I have had enough of this, I apologized, I said I was sorry, I said I would try to never do it again, I said I was glad I made this mistake now, then when i am older, and beleive it I am, and I DID learn my lesson.... this is the last time I will be here, so if you wanna say something, email it to me...
Ritchie Luna Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5442.html Posted At 07:22:04 07/07/2001

Let me explain it to you Tammy,
On the fourth they were 2.1
he sold 1.1 that night and had his friend pick it up the next morning. That leaves him with 1.0 But sometime during the night of the fourth one of the males did it with the female had an egg then it hatched and it happened to be female. so on the fifth he had 1.1. then those two did it. had an egg. had it hatched. and it was another female. That is why on the sixth he had 1.2 on kingsnake. In the mean time. His Ghost and His albino switched sexes during the night of the fourth.

Seriously that is the truth. And I am Hugh Hefner. and I live in the playboy mansion too.
Walter Hudson Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5446.html Posted At 11:56:02 07/07/2001

LMAO Thanks for enlightening us on what really happened here ritchie. My mind was boggled about that 1.2corn post.....now I can relax and not worry about how it happened.
john albrecht Re: I am sorry about everything, please read everyone
5705.html Posted At 14:25:53 07/12/2001

Jeremy, you should set your sights on politics. You will do real well there. May I suggest the democratic party for you?
Definately get out of selling snakes though. You are doomed in that area.
Remember, less is more.

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