| Author | Subject: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison? |
| Bryan Rupert | Posted At 21:15:42 07/28/2001
I ran a keyword search for herp01@aol, but nothing came up. |
| steve |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6490.html Posted At 22:37:42 07/28/2001 yes |
| Greg Riso |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6499.html Posted At 07:09:24 07/29/2001 Yes, he IM'd me last night on AOL concerning a comment I posted here. |
| Mike Heinrich |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6507.html Posted At 12:50:41 07/29/2001 All this kid does is buys stuff then posts it for sale. He recently had a garden phase amazon for $75, I asked why so high (they're normally under $50), he said "because I just paid $65 for it". So appearently he doesn't even do the 'buying' part of 'buying & selling' the right way. Mike www.boakingdom.com |
| April Yohn - Absolute Constrictor |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6536.html Posted At 14:31:52 07/30/2001 I've seen him posting animals for sale all over the net in various classifieds... didn't he say he wasn't going to sell anymore after all the drama here? Looks like he lied again... that same trio of candycane corns is still for sale too.. (the ones he said his "friend" bought and had posted the positive comments on here about) Doesn't look like good business practices IN MY OPINION... |
| jeremy rennison |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6544.html Posted At 16:20:12 07/30/2001 look people, I am selling the rest of my snakes on here, I didn't say I just was going to stop, I am selling MOST of my snakes, then I am going back to just having pet snakes, instead of selling, and breeding them.... I did sell a pair of regular red candycanes here in IL, but I got a TRIO of ORANGE candycanes, not the red colored ones, there orange.... I didn't lie about that... if you don't beleive me, buy them, if I rip you off, turn me in, tell kingsnake.... I wont rip you off, never had, never will |
| Brian Oakley |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6545.html Posted At 16:48:18 07/30/2001 Jeremy, You should scroll down a bit to the post that is about Vic. I spoke a few words there on a subject VERY closely related to this. GO READ IT! As far as never ripping anyone off..........I do not know how you could rip someone off. Someone has to buy from you first. After all the drama you caused yourself, I am not sure your name is Jeremy much less the types of snakes you say you have. B Oakley |
| Mike Heinrich |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6550.html Posted At 18:38:14 07/30/2001 He says he's just selling off most of his snakes and keeping the rest as pets, but read this clip from one of his newest ads... "she is arriving here tues, she is not up forsale yet, but I am just letting you all know, just in case you are interested" Sounds like "buying & selling" if you ask me. |
| Brian Oakley |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6558.html Posted At 21:04:34 07/30/2001 Jeremy, understand ONE THING.....do not email me. I no more want to hear from you than I want to buy from you. Now, in response to your email......the below is it if anyone cares. hey. if you are so against me, why don't you buy a couple snakes from me.... then you can let everyone know, I am a fake, etc etc etc.... but you don't know that foresure right now.... and, If I ripped you off, well, I know what you could do.... so??? What I would propose to you is this Jeremy. Why don't you send me the snakes and if they are what you say and all that, only then would I buy from you. You see I really do not care if you are a fake. Even if you are not (at this point) I would be surprised if someone did buy ONLY because of the MANY things you have said YOURSELF that you lied OR did not tell the whole truth about. You see Jeremy, I came intop this hobby 15 years ago. You know about as many people as I do on here. The only difference is..... I have for sale what I say I do, I do not ask people to come here and make up BULLSHIT stories about me, I tell the truth about my animals, and the rest takes care of itself. I do not care who I know, but at the same time I have met some AWESOME people. I do not need to stand out and make an ass of myself because I think it will drive sales through the roof.....I think you found the complete opposite. Finally, in response to your first comment. The one about me being so against you. I am not against you Jeremy, I do not even know you. I DO KNOW that I cannot stand people who lie. There is absolutely NOTHING you can do to take back words that you say. You see, you have left an impression in peoples minds that you cannot even begin to believe. I knew who and who not to deal with in this industry within a matter of months. Sadly for those people, their name stuck around AND IN MOST CASES still just hangs around. You can put yourself in that category. I will say, people in the herp trade do not forget. I feel sorry for you Jeremy. I do not know when it was you came around, but you have done more damage in the last 2 weeks than you can handle. Go be a kid....seriously! Your attempts here have failed miserably. Brian Oakley |
| jeremy rennison |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6559.html Posted At 21:25:43 07/30/2001 ok, I have the snakes I say I do, I have every snake I post, except if I post in the ad, that they are on there way, or something, ok.... AND, I know I did lie, I screwed up, and I said I was sorry... but, too my suprise, it did not slow down my sales, in fact, they have went up, the people at kingsnake told me that what goes on here goes on here, but what is over there is important, I didn't understand, but they said they would give me a chance, I sent the snakes, they were satisfied, but I am selling the rest of mine, and slowing down a lot for the next 3-4 years.... and hte thing is, I didn't lie about my snakes, I was misinformed, like, I got the 1.1 thing mixedup, and the whole genetics I am just now gettting... ok, bye |
| Ritchie Luna |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6564.html Posted At 22:29:07 07/30/2001 Jeremy, you say people on kingsnake said they would give you a chance................ummmhhh I just want to say that people on kingsnake know better. We all come from there to. The people that have looked at your adds on kingsnake and bought from you probably have not seen this site yet. And you say they are all satisfied. Funny none of them are here to post good things about you. None of them have come to your defense. |
| Brian Conley |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6579.html Posted At 12:16:54 07/31/2001 Jeremy, before you get accused of lying again (about your animals) I think you should know there is no such thing as an "orange candy cane." The term candy cane refers to the colors red and white. If your albino corns have any orange on them they are not candy canes. I suggest you get a copy of the book: A Color Guide to Corns Snakes. That should help you properly name and market your corns. Also I would suggest you pay more attention in Biology class as the subject of genetics should have come up by now. Your confusion on the "het thing" should have been covered when your teacher went over mono and dihybrid crosses. See, you really will use some of this stuff later on. Brian |
| Brian Oakley |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6581.html Posted At 12:44:45 07/31/2001 Brian, Just thought I would drop a little line for you. There IS infact a "orange" candy cane. You can see a pic of one on Don S. (South Mountain) website. Rich Z. also speaks of the orange that can come through in the candy cane line. Go to 2001 Hatchlings and click on the candy cane link to read about Rich's experiences with the candy canes as well as Don's website has a pic of one. Is it common? i have no idea, but it does exist. B Oakley |
| April Yohn - Absolute Constrictor |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6586.html Posted At 14:09:27 07/31/2001 Ok, Jeremy, I realize the mistake I made on the candy canes, looking over old posts, I see before you sold a pair, and then say you had 2.3 and are now selling a trio... maybe you can see how that would seem confusing esp since you said you were going to stop selling... but my mixup I guess. HOWEVER... you did post this in one of the many other threads about you... "ok guys, look, I am admitting to everything, like I said before, I am sorry... but I really mean it, a lot more now... (SNIP.. see old threads for entire message) thank you, and I will see you when I am older, bye " You must have quite a LOT of presonal animals(pets) to still be selling tho... so it seems you were just saying you'd "wait til older" to get everyone off your back... and seem to think no one will notice you selling still? You said above I should buy something from you to show you are honest.. um... WHY would I ever think of buying from you after all the lies and smoke-screen stuff you've already done? (see Brian's post above about that...) I wouldn't want to even take that chance. It's about business... being HONEST and knowing what you are talking about (hets/genetics) are important things in THIS business just like customer service is... to me, honesty is a HUGE part of it, esp when dealing with live animals. About "orange" candy canes.. well candy cane corns are just line bred amel (usually from miami locality stock) corns, bred over generations for being all white and red... but they are still just a variant of amelism so orange shows up in them quite often. To me, "orange" candy canes are just regular amels from candy cane breeding that do not show the "only red and white" which is strived for in nice candy canes... but they probably are high white or leaning more towards the candy cane look than any regular amel.. |
| jeremy rennison |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6610.html Posted At 20:40:19 07/31/2001 well, for one thing, I have not got the biologist genetics talk yet, that is this year... AND, what I meant was, if any of you buy from me, well, why wouldn't you?? if you think I lie about them, and you get the snakes, they aren't what I said they were, tell everybody on here.... AND, the people at kingsnake, I told them it will do ME know good if they post anything here aobut me... would it??? NO! all that matters, is that they are happy.... I also said, that I am selling up the last bit of my snakes, I am KEEPING my pet snakes, but all my breeders, and snakes I bought to breed, and didn't get to, I am selling... but as soon as i sell them, I am out of here, I wont sell anymore untill I completely understand the genetics and stuff... I do understand it, but I just got confused from stuff I was told... you guys have no reason to buy from me, for the first time, I know you think I lie about the snakes and stuff, but I have people that I bought them from, you can email... but what I meant about the kingsnake thing is, they said they would give me ONE chance, if I screwed up, they wouldn't buy again... but I didn't, so they are buying more... and what I meant about why you guys have no reason not to buy... well, if you sent me 100 bucks in the male, for a corn snake, or something, and you neever got the snake, or I sent a sick snake, or sent a different snake, you would post it here.... or email kingsnake... understand where I am coming from... there is such thing as a orange candycane, I got some, and I got pics... pics from the owner, and pics I just took of them... I know I lied about my friend, and stuff... but i haven't lied about my snakes... if I don't have them yet, i post that in the ad... if you want I can fax my drivers license, or something... but once I sell the rest of the snakes, I am out of here, going to raise all the baby snakes I got, in 3-4 years, I will breed them, then that 4-5 year I will sell the babies... the sooner I sell these, the sooner you will never hear from me again... thanx, bye |
| Brian Oakley |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6642.html Posted At 09:36:03 08/01/2001 Jeremy, you contridict yourself WAY TO MUCH. This is from your last post........"I wont sell anymore untill I completely understand the genetics and stuff... I do understand it, but I just got confused from stuff I was told..." You either understand or you do not. You should go back and read the post I put up on the thread that started all this a few weeks ago. I think I gave some very good advice, but I understand, kids know it all and what they do not know they still think they know. You should have just walked away a LONG time ago (from here that is). You see, the more you talk, the more people will attack. This could have been a one or two line thread that nobody would have really thought twice about (and I am saying a one or two line thread starting back with the first one weeks ago). You have created such a monster of a problem Jeremy. Fine, you say you are selling more now than before. That is fine, but so is everyone else. This is that time of year, people come out of the woodwork to buy things. Let me try to sum this up again. STOP talking Jeremy. You have done more damage to youself with your own words here in public than one could do for you. WALK AWAY. The only thing you have to prove at this point Jeremy is that you can close your mouth. I mean no harm or have no anger in this post. I truely am trying to give you advice. If you do not speak, peole will have nothing to comment on. You just feel like you have to explain or justify everything and THAT is what gets you in trouble. Will the saga continue? Brian Oakley |
| Brian Conley |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6648.html Posted At 11:41:40 08/01/2001 Brian, when I call/sell a corn as a candy cane it has no orange period. As April said if it has orange it's just an amel. True candy canes, (at least in my mind), are red and white just like the candy they are named after. It's a hard trait to produce as the orange tends to keep showing up. I will go read the posts you spoke of, but I still think "candy cane" should be reserved for red/white albinos ONLY. Rich what's your take on this. Brian |
| Brian Oakley |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6650.html Posted At 12:02:52 08/01/2001 Brian, Do not get me wrong, when i think of a candy cane I think red and white as well. All I know is that there are orange ones out there also. Be good, Brian Oakley |
| Brian Conley |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6660.html Posted At 16:28:02 08/01/2001 Ok, I went and looked. Orange candy cane would work for those snakes pictured, so I guess I'll eat a little crow. However, I don't think it's wise to call that morph candy cane. That name for those snakes will only lead to confusion and unhappy customers. Let's come up w/ a better name; how about "sunkist phase", or "orangesicle." Come on Rich you're the king of new names what do you think? Brian |
| Clint Boyer |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6701.html Posted At 11:30:35 08/02/2001 Just a note on the Orange Candycane issue. Don Soderberg of South Mountain Reptiles is working with a group of snakes he calls Orange Candycanes. I think Don is the first one to use the name. Personally, I don't see much wrong with "Orange Candycane" since it is very descriptive and very easy to visualize. I believe the pure white background is what makes a Candycane of any color. My $.o2 Clint Boyer |
| April Yohn - Absolute Constrictor |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6703.html Posted At 11:32:53 08/02/2001 Not orangecicle since it's so close to cremecicle and to me, anything with cicle or creme in it makes me think of an emory x corn hybrid. I think orange candy cane works... although amel would be better (and I think orange candy cane is usually just said to get a higher price)... but I understand, it does lead the person to think it's a high white amel... that more line bred could lead to good looking candy canes... just my $.02 |
| jeremy rennison |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6721.html Posted At 18:49:36 08/02/2001 well, these candycanes, are a pure white color, with orange saddles, that means they are orange candycanes, right???? how rare are these, I mean, how new are they??? I like the name orange candycane, but shouldn't we leave the name up to the person that started this line of candycanes?? just an opinion... well, I am selling these 3, for 300, sound like a good deal??? |
| Brian Conley |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6761.html Posted At 21:55:00 08/03/2001 If Don wants to call them that it's fine with me (not that that matters). But this whole discussion sort of proves my point. If we call them orange candy canes we have to make sure we don't leave off the "orange" part, also from this point forward we have to start using the term "red" candy cane, as there are now two varieties of the same morph. Jeremy, I don't think they are all that rare. It's not an uncommon morph to see when trying to produce creamsicles, at least that's how I got them. Brian |
| Clint Boyer |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6784.html Posted At 10:44:51 08/04/2001 This is what happens when someone spins off of an existing morph. You should have seen the pic of the snake Don started this project with. It is (or was?) a very light orange with a pure white background. There are other names it could go by but in my opinion it would not do it justice to ignore it's Candycane like appearance. I have orange amels that don't have white backgrounds, they are not the same. Orange on a red Candycane usually creeps in around the neck and in the rest of the background. Bad Candycanes (orange in the background) are common, good orange Candycanes are not so common. Don told me that his line is pure guttata, if your line contains emoryi then Candycream or something containing cream or sicle would be more appropriate. As always, in naming morphs, just my opinion. Clint Boyer |
| jeremy rennison |
Re: [email protected]. Is this Jeremy Rennison?
6858.html Posted At 12:07:35 08/06/2001 hey, if you guys want, I took some recent pics of the orange candycanes, they aren't very good, used a walmart digital all I could get, but it shows how white they are, and how clean the saddles are, if you know what I mean... if u want a good, month old pic, and a week old ok pic, to just take a look at them, see what you think, IM me, or email me and ask for them, thanx, bye I don't think they have emory in them... |