Be careful of this person wanting HOTs...

Author Subject: Be careful of this person wanting HOTs...
Patrick Hughett @ North Texas Reptiles Posted At 02:59:37 08/24/2001
I received an e-mail late last night/early this morning from someone inquiring about my trio of bush vipers. He wrote and asked question after question after question. I asked him his age and location. He wrote back and told me he was in PA, which doesn't require a permit to keep vens, and he said he was 22. I told him I would sell them to him because of that. He then kept asking question after question about them. Now...just about 24 hours after the first e-mail, I have received a whopping total of FIFTY THREE e-mails of questions...some of which he has repeated upwards of three times! I am all for questions, especially when it comes to owning your first HOT snake, but just the frequency, and the same questions repeated over and over, didn't sound right to me. Needless to say, I REFUSED THE SALE!

Another thing...He never sent his name in any of the e-mails, but his e-mail address is [email protected]. If any of you receive e-mails from this person wanting HOTs, or even dangerous non-venomous snakes, just be careful in selling them! He just doesn't seem right.

This is just a heads-up!

Thanks,

Patrick Hughett
North Texas Reptiles
Steve Himes Re: Be careful of this person wanting HOTs...
8131.html Posted At 04:04:58 08/24/2001

Good call...it's not always worth making the sale. Fortunately this person make it obvious something was up...50 + emails!!

Steve
Ritchie Luna Re: Be careful of this person wanting HOTs...
8137.html Posted At 07:49:56 08/24/2001

I searched it for you on aol......It also does not give a name. And he does not sound too mature.

Good call Patrick. The money is not worth the bad publicity this hobby will get if the guy gets bit or something.
Chris Pearson Re: Be careful of this person wanting HOTs...
8147.html Posted At 08:21:03 08/24/2001

Brittney,
You seem to of judged Patrick without knowing the answers to your questions (kind of like how you accused him of it), you know Patrick has direct email, sounds like you have some issues with him deal with him directly.Patrick did the right thing in thinking of the consequences first instead of the money.I phrase him for his actions.
Chris Pearson
Mike Habel Re: Be careful of this person wanting HOTs...
8155.html Posted At 09:14:11 08/24/2001

I dont think Patrick labeled him as anything. I think he was just giving us a warning about someone who "seems" a little sketchy. When your inquiring about an animal dont you usually put your name on the email? Well this guy didnt and to me that seems weird. Venomous snakes are dangerous, and Patrick just wanted to be careful. Well this is just my 2cents. Well thanks Patrick for the warning.
Mike Habel
M.Gandolfo Re: Be careful of this person wanting HOTs...
8157.html Posted At 09:20:42 08/24/2001

I am tired of seeing Brittney's name on posts made by Joey. Joey was the one who had the croc issue with Patrick over the crocs. Sounds schizophrenic to me.
Emerson Biggins Re: Be careful of this person wanting HOTs...
8183.html Posted At 19:50:36 08/24/2001

Hey Brit, shut your mouth!! I'm SICK of it!! Let us be!! I'm Gonna send you an email, open it, then we won't have to worry about your 2 cents anymore!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Oh yeah, Patrick, you made a great call!!
Glenn Dodson Re: Be careful of this person wanting HOTs...
8185.html Posted At 20:39:03 08/24/2001

I have been to Patricks place and will say that his animals seem to be healthy and well cared for. As far as keeping hots illegally, who hasnt bent a rule here and there. If a new city ordinance was passed here today banning hots or large constrictors, I would be happy to break the law. Brittney, I have never met you and you may be a great person off of the computer but your online personality sucks. Patrick, dont let the miserable people in this hobby keep you from enjoying it. For every bad apple there are at least three good ones left around here.
Glenn
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Patrick Hughett @ North Texas Reptiles Re: Be careful of this person wanting HOTs...
8192.html Posted At 23:04:00 08/24/2001

Thanks Glenn for your words....and everyone elses except Brittney/Joey's. Glenn hasn't been to my place since I have moved my animals a couple of weeks ago. You were right Brittney...for the first time ever, that I've seen. I won't return your e-mails. I really haven't talked to anyone that you or Joey send e-mails to (which seems to be everyone that says something bad about you), that returns your e-mails. I will not return e-mails that look like this:

f*%$#...as**(*..moth#$$fu34@#$#.

Sorry...I just don't return those for some reason. I have only gotten threatening e-mails from both of you with foul language. Not only do I not care to return your e-mails, but I don't care to speak with you on here either. I am only writing this so there is an understanding.

As for HOT snakes...If you were selling this species, which just happens to have NO ANTIVENOM, you might be a little hesitant...........well maybe not you...........to sell them to someone that asked the types of questions this person did. I answered every single one of them as well....How do you think I made the sale if I didn't answer them??? It was only after receiving the same question 3 times within 24 hours, did I make the decision to refuse the sale! The question repeated 3 times was, "What size cage would be suitable for them?" Of course it was phrased three different ways when asked.

Just a bit of information Brittney...I told you and Joey, once before, that if you persisted in keeping up these false accusations about the way I keep my animals (I see you put, "That is what I heard." this time), without knowing first hand, and perhaps steering any of my potential customers away, that you or Joey would have some legal matters to deal with. This is just a bit of information that I HEARD: I heard that the Hammond Police are looking for any information on Joey they can get. I also know the seargent's name, but I don't think it is necessary to post it here or now. You can take this information for what it is worth. Stay out of my business and I'll stay out of yours from now on, and we'll be fine! At this point, I really don't think it would be in you or Joey's best interest to keep trying to give me a bad name without knowing the facts. Any e-mails you send me will be copied and saved as well, so please don't do that either.

Until I start getting complaints from people on how I do business and/or ripping someone off, I am just going to keep doing exactly what I'm doing...GOOD BUSINESS!

Sorry the rest of you had to read all this for just one or two people. :(

Patrick Hughett
North Texas Reptiles

Kay Hughes Re: Be careful of this person wanting HOTs...
8193.html Posted At 23:06:28 08/24/2001

Hey Brittney,,
You are on the wrong message board inquiring about Texas "Cocs" dont think you find those on a reptile inquiry board,, but you know what they say about Texas... EVERYTHINGs Bigger in Texas,, I would think that would include the COCS there, WOO HOO you go girl..
I think you better be making some use of your spell check feature there hun,, you might just be telling on yourself for what your really thinking about..
Ritchie Luna Re: Be careful of this person wanting HOTs...
8194.html Posted At 00:49:55 08/25/2001

oooohhhhh ooohhhhh Drama!!!!!!!!!! Where is it?

Gosh darn...I was too late for the drama...It has been erased.

I guess the dynamic dua is at it again.....Why?

I absolutley don't see anything wrong with patrick's post.

I try not to sell to inexperienced people. And when I do I always include care sheets. but no amount of caresheets would have helped that guy...specially with hots.

Hey patrick.....I love drama....Tell me what you know.


Patrick I keep reading your post.......I absolutley don't see anything wrong with it. What I see is that you decided not to sell because it would just be better for our hobby and the guys health. It was for his own protection..........Don't worry about it....I guess the two were just looking for attention again
Patrick Hughett @ North Texas Reptiles Re: Be careful of this person wanting HOTs...
8200.html Posted At 05:14:27 08/25/2001

Hey Ritchie,

That is a great idea. I have thought of it several times from reading other people's posts, but I haven't gotten around to putting together a caresheet. Is there anyway you could e-mail yours to me, or send me a copy of yours? I would be interested to see it.

Patrick Hughett
North Texas Reptiles
Ritchie Luna Re: Be careful of this person wanting HOTs...
8202.html Posted At 07:22:22 08/25/2001

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