| Author | Subject: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up |
| scott cook | Posted At 15:09:32 09/28/2001
Just a quick post to let everyone who attacked me for posting a negative remark about wormman.com For your information, to this day I still have never received the shipment of superworms that wormman.com claimed he shipped to me. Even though he posted on here he had a tracking number and insisted he did ship them. So, my original statement that he is a liar still stands. He never emailed me a tracking number or posted the tracking number on here even though I asked him to do that many times. I was credited the charge to my credit card which he was obligated to do. He did send me an email retracting the threat he made to me. This board is here to post dealings good or bad you have had with someone. I did that and some people did not like that. For that reason I was emailed and post were made with rude and untrue comments. I don't feel anyone should be attacked on here for posting their dealings with someone. Well, just wanted to let everyone know how it all ended up. |
| Robert Hill |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9477.html Posted At 16:23:27 09/28/2001 The reason that everyone disagreed with your continued attack on wormman.com is that even to your admission, you got your money back. Let me repeat that in case you couldn't read it...YOU GOT YOUR MONEY BACK. And then you continued to complain about not having feeders for your animals. You had money in hand, all you had to do was go get them. Ken was under NO obligation to send you another box of superworms, but he said he would. I agree it is too bad that you didn't get your worms, but don't blame not being able to feed your animals on him when you had ample funds and time to get them somewhere else(which you ended up doing anyway). And also, with all the problems you claimed to have with Ken and wormman.com in the past, why would you go back? Not trying to put down Ken at all, but why go back to a company that you did not like working with? |
| scott cook |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9480.html Posted At 18:05:13 09/28/2001 Here we go again! Another individual who realy didn't read everything before commenting. I never posted on here to get into a cofrontation with people like you. I posted on here what happened between me and wormman.com. To share with other herpers my experience in this matter. I am not saying he does this with everyone, I am just saying this is what happened to me and people can make their own minds up if they want to buy from him or not. It seems some people on here like yourself look for any oppurtunity to get into it in anyway they can. I don't think that is the reason this board is here for people to attack other people for posting their dealings wether it be good or bad. I didn't Keep complaining about the money. Also, the money wasn't refunded till I posted on this board. LET ME REPEAT THAT FOR YOU, NO MONEY REFUNDED TILL I POSTED ON THIS BOARD. My main gripe was Ken said he shipped my order even when he knew he didn't. My gripe was he was a liar! and he made a threatning email to me for posting it on this board. I gave him every oppurtunity to post the tracking number and he never did because he didn't have one. You stated "he was under no obligation to send you another box:. How could he send me another box when he never shipped the first box. I never expected to get the shipment after my refund. Ken stated that after I got my refund I will see that I was wrong and the shipment should arrive soon. Even to the end he still lied about the shipment and I only wanted everyone to see that. Once a liar always a liar. |
| Lance Hartman |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9485.html Posted At 20:48:48 09/28/2001 One thing I'm confused about, is I thought that they shipped their stuff via priority mail. There is no tracking number given if that's the route used. Am I wrong? Lance |
| scott cook |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9486.html Posted At 20:59:00 09/28/2001 Lance, You are the first one to hit the nail on the head. I have been waiting for someone to come along and say what you just said. I knew if I said it then there would be comments. You are right! there is no tracking on priority mail. There is only delivery confirmation. Now, does anyone think Ken from wormman.com is a liar!! Wormman ships priority mail all the time unless as he stated in the other post I could have REQUESTED overnigt delivery. So, what tracking number was Ken talking about? Could not have been on my shipment of superworms, that was shipped priority as he stated. Thank you very much Lance. |
| Mickey Cook |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9491.html Posted At 22:31:23 09/28/2001 Whats the problem? I know it sucked not being able to feed your animals and all, however you got your $$$$ back. Which is more than some who have really been ripped off by others can say. If you don't like worm man go elsewhere. |
| scott cook |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9494.html Posted At 23:19:25 09/28/2001 There is no problem Mickey, I am just following up and letting everyone know the truth about wormman.com. Thats exactly what I did, I went to Reptilefoods.com |
| Jude Fitch{MiLadyDragonn} |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9500.html Posted At 01:02:09 09/29/2001 ~I really hate to feed into this but I feel obligated to relate a very recent incident in defense of Ken at WormMan... ~As we ALL know, shiping anything, live or not, has been hell since the WTC tragedy. I had ordered Butterworms from WormMan, they arrived very dead!! Now the thing is, the date on the stamp was 9/17/01, they got to me on 9/25/01!!! That is more than a week in transit for USPS priority mail. I immediately emailed Ken and got an IMMEDIATE response. Since I did not consider this unfortunate incident to be his fault, I did offer to pay for reshipment, but decided on mealworms, since they are more hardy and might survive another screw up by USPS. ~His response, again, was very timely and I was told not to worry. Live shipment was guaranteed and they would ship whatever I requested ASAP. ~This has always been the way it has proceeded with this company, which is why I always speak up when I see someone trashing him. It's not that mistakes are not made, they have just always been made good. ~I'm a firm believer in "getting as good as you give". Even when an error has happened, I make the effort to be polite and considerate....as well as every attempt to restrain my frustration. (There have been times when I could swear my herps were planning a hunger mutiny just by the way they would glare at me.) By keeping my words in check, I have been rewarded with professional and courteous treatment. Even when I have posted a complaint regarding a TRANSACTION in which I have been on the losing end of, I feel it is best to give the benefit of a doubt keep the name calling out of it. ~~And I have to agree with Mickey and Robert...be thankful you got your money back. Move on and let it go. Dredging it all up now displays only vindictiveness and an unhealthy tenacity. Some people seem to need to hold on to their anger as they would their blankie...oops. jude |
| Dawn Z |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9506.html Posted At 09:33:23 09/29/2001 I *think* this all began FAR before the Sept 11th tragedy. While that could be the blame of poor/no shipping recently, I think this all happened at least last month. (just wanted to clarify that to Milady ;) ). I can understand what he's trying to do. He is simply posting a good/bad guy post. He's not flaming or seething or foaming at the mouth or anything, and we should leave it like that. Posts debating or attacking him will only make him bring it up longer. I gather he's upset that even though this company had stated in THIS forum that they had a tracking number, mr. cook did not recieve one. Personally, and this IS just my opinion, I believe that if you say something, you need to back it up. If Mr. Cook never recived that tracking number after many times of requesting it, it really sounds as if there was never one to begin with. Again. I don't know either people. I'm just stating that in the buisness world, you need to provide proof. He's obviously taken his buisness elsewhere... I would want to know, though, how his exp with Reptilefoods.com. If it went well to give them a little thumbs up |
| Jeff Houston |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9512.html Posted At 12:38:06 09/29/2001 Some people need to grow up. Scott is just giving people a heads up about a bad company. Did he get his money back, yes. Does that make it a good company, no! The owner of the company lied through his teeth, as he did with me in the past. That is a bad company and should not be delt with. If Scott is wrong for posting then this board sucks! The bottom line is that wormman is a liar. I know this first hand! Scott knows it! Anyone with a brain who read the previous posts by worman KNOWS he is a liar. If you want to use a comany like that go ahead. Scott is just helping out the sane people who don't want the kind of problems he had. Just my thoughts. Jeff Houston |
| Richard Fitzsimmons |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9515.html Posted At 15:29:23 09/29/2001 Here you guys go again! Scott. I just read the posts from the other thread and there is nothing there about a tracking number. You seem like a liar to me. What is that deal with you? I just received my superworms that I ordered last week. Did you ever think that USPS has screwed up a ton of orders, and now are no longer shipping anything alive. It happened to have started right after the holiday when your order was shipped. You are harping on this like you own a feeder company????? Don't you have anything better to do? My guess is you are trying to see if you can get wormman.com to ship you more insects for free even though you got your money back. My guess is that you are going to keep posting on here until you get free stuff. How come you never addressed my questions to you regarding posts you have made on here in the past about not receiving orders from other suppliers. This seems common for you. Richard. |
| Rich Vanderstein |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9516.html Posted At 15:34:23 09/29/2001 Scott, Tell the good people about how you have now taken to emailing me non-stop with your insanity off of the board. This guy is a nut case. Shall I post your emails? I suggest you do not email me again!!!!!! My bet is that you are a thief! Get a life. Maybe if you had a life you would not have to resort to this crap for a thrills. Leave me alone. I will not take one more email. Trust me. Rich |
| scott cook |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9526.html Posted At 23:22:52 09/29/2001 First off I would like to thank Dawn Z. and Jeff Houston for seeing the truth and posting it. Dawn you explained it perfectly. Jeff I like what you said also, I like how you call em as you see em! But as you can see by Richard F. posts some people just want to be on the attack. I emailed Richard after he posted on the other thread that I received my superworms. In that email I asked him what proof he had and please post the proof that I received the superworms that is all. He emailed back a vulgar comment. I have my copies of the emails between us but don't know how to post them on here. If someone will tell me how to do it I will so everyone can read them. Richard I don't want or expect anything from Ken at wormman. com. I don't understand your anger towards me on this thread or the other and yes Ken did mention a tracking number. Your opinion of me is your perogative and you are welcome to it. You can come on here and try to change the subject of this post as much as you want. I will not stray from the truth that wormman.com is a liar and he proved it. Everyone who reads this can and will form their own opinion and that is what this board is for. I stated exactly what happened between me and wormman.com and people can decide for themselves how to use the information. I understand not everyone will agree or disagree with me and that is what makes this country great. We have that right to decide for ourselves and have our own opinions and the right to express them. Richard I do not own a feeder comapny, yes i added to a post on Reptronics.com for not shipping an order I was the last person to post to that thread and I did not start the post. Also everyone that did post to it had a problem with reptronics and I did not receive anything from reptronics. Not for free or what was paid for. I also checked your name on here and it only seems to come up when I post about wormman.com Maybe you are in some way tied to wormman.com As I said before I am happy for you that your orders have worked out good for you with wormman.com It is nice when orders go right and there are no problems. Makes life much easier. Richard I saved the emails between us and if I find out how to post them I will. I have no problem with anyone reading them. I just hope if you post them you are honest enough not to tamper with them. Thanks to all who expressed their views on here good or bad. Scott Cook |
| Dawn Z |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9595.html Posted At 22:24:18 09/30/2001 Richard Fitzsimmons, there was many posts where Scott asked for a tracking number. I pulled a URL for you in case you had trouble finding it: http://herpwantads.com/forums/Inquiry/posts/8824.html Sorry. Couldn't let that go unanswered when I knew without a doubt diffrently ;) |
| Robert Hill |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9610.html Posted At 11:28:07 10/01/2001 I guess the only thing bugging me here(no pun intended;), is that you still got your money back. Like I said, it is too bad you never got the worms from wormman, but hey, you still used the same money to buy them somewhere else of your choosing. And again, if you had all the problems you claimed to have with Ken before, why go back? When I have problems with any dealer, it is pretty much one strike you're out. So if I was having the problems with wormman that you claimed you were having, I would not have ordered from him no matter what amount of time went by. This is not meant to insult Ken or his business in anyway as outside of your posts I have heard nothing but good, but WHY WOULD YOU RISK SPENDING YOUR MONEY WITH SOMEONE THAT HAS A BAD TRACK RECORD WITH YOU? That is asking for it isn't it? And oh yes, again for the record, I have no affiliation with Ken or wormman.com. I just don't like seeing you trash his name when he made right on the deal. Remember, it was YOUR decision to wait for weeks on the superworms he had no obligation to send you before you went elsewhere to buy them. Hope I didn't lose anyone there. Anyway, I have no problem with someone posting about bad deals and good deals, that is the point here, but to continually post about ONE bad deal is not condusive to anything but airing your grievances and showing that you like to hold grudges. Or as someone else said before, that you are just trying to get some free worms. |
| scott cook |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9628.html Posted At 17:22:40 10/01/2001 Robert Hill, I am amazed at what I found when I did a search on this board with your name. You seem to enjoy putting your two cents in everywhere. You even post to threads where you have never even dealt with the person the post is about. 90 percent of the ones you posted to you seem to go against the person who has a problem. What are you the great defender! It must be wonderful to be you and sit at your computer and pass judgement on so many issues. As you stated on many post "I have not dealt with this person but from what I have read" and then you will go on to attack or put down the person for doing the post. Even in my case on the last post I did on wormman.com you stated you have never dealt with wormman.com but several of your friends have. So, I guess that gives you the experience with wormman.com to tell me I am wrong and make your little accusations towards me. Till you have dealt with a company first hand I would think you don't have the experience of that to pass judgement or cast a negative comment on the individual who has had a problem first hand with the company they posted about. You ask me why I would order again when I had a problem before. Yes, I had a problem a year ago but as we all know mistakes happen so I saw no reason not to give wormman.com a second chance a year later. Now after the second problem I will not try him again and I am sure he would not want me too either. You also think I keep trashing his name. There is no trashing going on here. Only the truth has been posted. He made right on the deal only after I posted on here. Why don't you email him and ask for that tracking number. I only made this second post so others could see he did not ship the order and did not have a tracking number. I also wanted everyone to know I did not receive anything for free as some of you have stated. If you take the time to do a search on my name I have posted very positive posts on people I have bought from and praised them on here. I have an excellnt rateing on herpauction.com and also on Ebay.com. I have bought the majority of my rep collection online and I have sold many herps online. I have not one negative rating on line for selling or buying herps. Maybe you need to sit back and not be so judgemental of people who honestly post there experiences on here. I do not post to any thread on here unless I have dealt directly with the subject of the post. Thanks again to all who voiced their opinion and let the buyer beware. |
| Richard Vanderstein |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9638.html Posted At 19:21:24 10/01/2001 Scott, The way I see it is that he made right after 4 days. You started posting four days after not receiving your superworms, and Ken gave you your money back FOUR DAYS after you made the order!!!!! Scott is is now about thrity days later and you have been posting every day, and emailing me with your insanity! Why are you attacking Robert? You say he answers many of the posts. Isn't that why they are here? Isn't that why you keep posting? Rainman, you got your money back!!!!!! Rich PS I am sure you will write me offline now, and I will have to yell at you again. |
| scott cook |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9642.html Posted At 20:08:46 10/01/2001 Ok, rich lets not lie again! There have only been 2 emails between you and me and they are dated 9/18 and 9/20 You may want to check the dates, Have not been posting everyday for 30 days. I knew it was only a matter of time before you jumped back in. You must be very bored to be keeping track of my post. It seems I am the only thread you post too. I wonder why. By the way, You claimed in my last post on wormman.com that you claimed I received my order from them. Why would you post a lie? I also asked you to post the proof of that claim and still no proof of your claim. Exactly what is in this for you? Free feeders from wormman.com? Must be something good for you to take all this time on this board only for me. Try reading and posting to other threads except mine only. cya |
| Robert Hill |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9662.html Posted At 08:01:27 10/02/2001 Well, Scott, I see you find it necessary to attack me now for voicing my opinions on a situation which it is my full right to do. And also, I call them as I see them. You are welcome to pull my name up all you want. In every one of my posts, I support whomever I believe is in the right. Call me "great defender" or whatever. I am not here to make anyone happy. Again, I call them as I see them and offer possible options to resolve a problem from a totally neutral perspective. I am glad that it solved some craving you have to find out about everyone that posts against you. You will also find, that save one thread I started back MANY months ago, I have not started any "bad guy" threads against ANYONE. I don't even post on here about bad deals I have had. It serves no purpose because 9 times out of 10, it doesn't solve the problem. I don't know how else to say this(since I have stated it several ways already), but I have no issue with you posting that you had a negative dealing with. We all realize that this site is here for that(and we never thank the webmaster enough). But if you will read my post before, all the way this time, you will see that my only problem is that instead of moving on past the one bad deal(and one mind you that you received a refund for), you are now dredging it up, what, a month later? What purpose does that serve? We all knew in the last thread about wormman.com that you did not receive your superworms. So you are going to bring it up again just to REMIND everyone that you didn't? You should have moved on from this deal as the rest of the world has(including wormman.com I am sure), but no, you are holding a grudge so you have to start another thread to toss wormman.com under the bus again. Again, I think it is too bad that you never received the worms that Ken said he would send. Let me say that again so maybe you will read it this time...I THINK IT IS TOO BAD YOU DID NOT GET THE WORMS FROM KEN AT WORMMAN.COM. BUT, since he gave you your money back, he was under no obligation to send another shipment. I would not have even offered to send another shipment of free worms to you. |
| Arnold Calderon |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9665.html Posted At 08:22:52 10/02/2001 SCOTT, I have be following along here. You got your money back in four days? You have been going on for forty! You call Mr. Hill a liar and great defender because he posts too much to other threads and attack Richard because he posts too little. I usually buy from lllreptile, but I do buy my frozen rodents for the rosy boa I bought from lllreptile from wormman.com. They always arrive without issue, even in the summer. If ever a fatal attraction existed you are it. You complianed and posted after four days of not getting your worms and are got your money back within four days. What are you doing? AC |
| Tony Bedell |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9672.html Posted At 12:11:52 10/02/2001 I think everyone is missing the point here. Its not about the money or bugs. Its the fact that Wormman lied. Scott sent money to them, Wormman didn't ship until Scott posted here, then Wormman told everyone that the bugs were in the mail AND that Scott would get his money back, well money came back, but no bugs have arrived. So doesn't that make him a liar then? This is my 2 cents. Tony |
| Rosa Cabrera |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9681.html Posted At 17:07:08 10/02/2001 Tony, I don't think so because no one was getting stuff that week. Usps had stopped shipping live animals and bugs on the fifth or sixth. Check other threads about that. I have read in other threads that everyone was not receiving USPS shipments that week, or they were returned. If wormman.com lied wouldn't they also lie here and say that they sent it and that scot got it? Would they then not return his money? If they were theives wouldn't they have ripped me off???? They don't know me from Adam, but I have never been ripped off by them. They had shipping problems and gave scott his money back. Scott says in his first post that he sent posted here and then wrote to wormman.com telling them he never received his order. They then refunded his money and he has been carrying on. I am still stuck on the point that how do we know scott did not get the worms? I promised I would no longer post to this thread, but I can't believe this is still going on. Rosa |
| scott cook |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9686.html Posted At 17:52:55 10/02/2001 Thanks Tony, Thats exactly the point I was trying to get across. It is not about the money or the superworms. It is about the lie. |
| John Prone |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9687.html Posted At 17:58:09 10/02/2001 Scott, You are killing yourself here. Leave it alone. Your attacks on Robert are stupid. I guess the only person entitled to their opinion is you. You are not a very likable guy. My guess is that you have your bad dealings are partially a result of your bad attitude. How about the fact that you used profanity in your posts, and called people awful names? The webmaster had to fix those posts. Give it up, man. What do you want now? More feeders? More money? More air time. My guess is you are affiliated with wormman.com some how. You write some bad stuff and look stupid and all these people come to the defense of wormman.com, and people go to the site. Is this true? If not then stop being stupid. I am sick of hearing from you, and you are wasting bandwidth by rehashing the same BS over and over. I have read Robert Hills postings and he is a nice guy. Give it up! John |
| Robert Hill |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9709.html Posted At 08:13:19 10/03/2001 Tony, thanks for the compliment and understanding my point. We have all heard this EXACT same thing already last month, and here we are going over it all over again. And honestly, who is to say that Scott didn't get that order of worms already? And who is to say that wormman.com sent them? And who is to say that the USPS just screwed up(gee, who could imagine THAT?;)? If the worms were sent Priority Mail, there are no tracking numbers and no way to track a package. If I were Ken at wormman.com, if I had already sent one box to someone and it didn't arrive, then REFUNDED them the money, AND sent another box out to replace the first, if there was a screwup and it was lost in the mail, I for sure would not want to send a THIRD box(especially since noone knows for sure if the box DID arrive or not) for free. Scott, again and again and again, it is too bad you did not get your worms from wormman.com, as everyone I know that uses them has had great service. If you think Ken is a liar, then so be it. You are entitled to your opinion. But we all KNOW you think that, so why keep rehashing it? Will we see another "update" in 30 more days reminding us that you did not get your worms again? It is a useless obsession and since you are buying somewhere else anyway. Please feel free to let the attacks fly! |
| scott cook |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9736.html Posted At 21:34:27 10/03/2001 John Prone, No where in any of my previous post on wormman.com have I used profanity. I did title my first thread Wormman.com Sucks The webmaster emailed me and asked if it would be ok to change the title to wormman.com bad guy That was the only word I used. You can email the webmaster to verify that. I am not affiliated with wormman.com although I guess in a way I am getting him noticed. You stated above "I am sick of hearing from you" I am not bending your arm or clicking your mouse to come and read my post. That is your choice, If you are sick of it then don't click on this thread. Its as easy as that to just pass it by. No one is forceing you to enter and read it. And if the opportunity comes up in the future for me to post my opinions on wormman.com you can be sure I will. Like I have stated from the begining "once a liar always a liar wormman (KEN) Robert not everyone who has used wormman.com is happy. Do a search and see the many negative comments. I have not received an order from them even though you like to keep saying maybe I did. To me it is not a useless cause. I will always let other herpers know about it when the chance for me to do so comes up. And as long as anyone post to this thread to try to tell me otherwise I will respond to it. You say I am obsessed what about you as you keep posting yourself. If enough is enough then why do you continue to fan the flames. You must enjoy posting here and waitng for my response. Why else would you spend so much time keeping tabs on this thread? I know that not everyone will agree with me and we will all see it our own way and that is good. Would be a dull world if everyone agreed all the time. Again and hopefully the last time thank you to all who voiced their opinion good or bad. |
| Robert Hill |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9761.html Posted At 08:25:43 10/04/2001 One final post on this useless thread, then I am out. Scott, we all understand you have an issue with Ken at wormman.com. We all know you like to post that he is a liar. We all know that you never received worms from him. But we all knew this a MONTH AGO. That is why we are all going, "Why is this guy posting a new thread(which by the way, if you read the rules...), just to remind everyone about THE SAME BAD DEAL?" And not only that, you got a refund on your order. Also, I never said that EVERYONE is happy with wormman.com, just that all of the people that I know who use them(and the majority of people posting to your threads) are very happy and have never had any problems. It just seems very strange that all of a sudden, you, Scott Cook, for some reason will be singled out to never get your worms and be lied to by this company. Ken does not lie to anyone that I know who does business with him. If there is a problem, it is promptly fixed. And many of the people posting here have said the same. That is why I am going to start ordering all of my feeder insects from wormman.com. And again, I never once stated that you DID in fact get the worms, but only YOU know for sure if they arrived or not. And only Ken knows for sure if they were sent out. But I just find it highly suspect that you would be targeted in some kind of "we don't ship you worms when you pay, then we give your money back, and we still don't send you worms" scam. Does that make sense to anyone? I mean really, think about that. Because it sounds like the scam of the century to me. I mean, take your money, then give it back, wow, what a deal. Sign me up. I know that is more sarcastic than I am normally in my posts here, but I hope that you see the point I was trying to make. You are acting as if the people at wormman.com singled you out for a jerk around conspiracy that does NOONE, not even them, any good. And to be honest with you Scott, I still think it is too bad you did not have a good experience with wormman.com. Like I said, I have heard way more good than bad. So that is why I find it odd that you are here so vehemently attacking wormman.com, and yes, calling a person and company a liar is an attack, because you got your money back. |
| Devon Smith |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9826.html Posted At 23:02:09 10/04/2001 Ok I gotta say that I have heard he (wormman) uses Top Hat and a few other companies. Now on his 9/8 post he claims "We do not allow visitors to our farm for a couple of reasons. The first is that we do not want our competitors to know how we raise our crickets". There is nothing wrong with brokering crickets, but to lie about it? If you call most "real" cricket ranches they will give you a tour and do so for schools and so on. Raising crickets is not a "big secret" The post went on to say he cannot allow visitors because he is not zoned as a retail visit. A free tour isnt a "retail transaction". My guess is he doesnt want anyone to know the truth. |
| John Prone |
Re: Wormman.com Bad guy follow up
9837.html Posted At 06:35:56 10/05/2001 I hear that they broker some and grow some. Many of the orders I get come from them in NJ, but when it was too cold or hot they have used different suppliers for me to get them to me faster. I was in Cali going to school and ordered crickets. I got them in one day. They told me it was because they had used a supplier in Cali to get them to me faster. My East Coast orders come from them. I disagree about cricket farms giving tours. Call any of the big guys and tell them you want to go to the business and look around. They won't even let reporters in. I read in Pet Business Age that they interviewed the Timberline guys, and they wouldn't let them in the building to see how they grow the crickets. I would be interested to know if you guys voted for Al Gore and Clinton since you hate liars so much? |