She's interesting

[SERPENTS DEN]

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z19/Serpents-Den/Serpents-Den-Dinker---female.jpg

I plan on breeding her to something this season.

[Abby]

NICE! Good luck with her Steve :thumbsup:

[deborahbroadus]

She certainly is interesting!! What do you have in mind?

[jeffwyatt81]

She is sweet Steve, Ive always been really fond of the hypermelanistic/dark balls. Good luck with her and keep us up to date on her pairing this season.

Jeff

[axeman]

WOW!!

[SERPENTS DEN]

NICE! Good luck with her Steve :thumbsup:

Thanks Abby. :)


She certainly is interesting!! What do you have in mind?

Thanks Deb, I haven't decided what to breed her with. :shrug01:


She is sweet Steve, Ive always been really fond of the hypermelanistic/dark balls. Good luck with her and keep us up to date on her pairing this season.

Jeff

Thanks Jeff, I've always liked the dark ones too, it would be cool if she proves to be a dominant or co-dominant rather than recessive or .not genetic. I'm getting impatient...lol

[jeffwyatt81]

I can only imagine, I have a few 10's that I cant wait to get to size, lol. I would pair her with a chocolate based morph and see if you can get a deep rich chocalate ball. Mmmmmmm, dark chocolate, nom nom nom! :rofl:

[SERPENTS DEN]

I can only imagine, I have a few 10's that I cant wait to get to size, lol. I would pair her with a chocolate based morph and see if you can get a deep rich chocalate ball. Mmmmmmm, dark chocolate, nom nom nom! :rofl:

I thought about breeding her to a Black Granite but I would like to breed her with something that won't distract her own traits.

How about a Vanilla for a Van/Choc twist....:rofl:

[jeffwyatt81]

I thought about breeding her to a Black Granite but I would like to breed her with something that won't distract her own traits.

How about a Vanilla for a Van/Choc twist....:rofl:


:rofl: I love me some van/choc twist! ;)

I think a vanilla would be a great morph to pair with her. I'll be waiting to see what you decide on but Id love to see what she throws into the mix with a vanilla, great idea. :thumbsup:

[Wonzzer]

I'd stick with dark morphs. Wouldn't you just end up with medium or lighter offspring if you went with a vanilla? Kinda negates here attributes:shrug01:

[SERPENTS DEN]

I'd stick with dark morphs. Wouldn't you just end up with medium or lighter offspring if you went with a vanilla? Kinda negates here attributes:shrug01:


I don't want to breed her to something that would compliment her darkness just yet and I have decided to plug my Mojave Pieds into her this season.

I plan on plugging something into her later that would compliment her traits. :thumbsup:

[SERPENTS DEN]

After giving it some thought I have noticed a couple lock ups with my Mojave Pieds.


Click on the thumbnails to enlarge.
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z19/Serpents-Den/th_Mojo-Pied-1-8-7-10.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z19/Serpents-Den/?action=view&current=Mojo-Pied-1-8-7-10.jpg)http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z19/Serpents-Den/th_Mojo-Pied-8-05-10---smaller-file.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z19/Serpents-Den/?action=view&current=Mojo-Pied-8-05-10---smaller-file.jpg)


I'm hoping she'll prove to be co-dominant, I don't want to wait to try and prove out double hets.

[Focal]

I was thinking she would go good with a pied. Mostly white with dark patches mmmmmm

[cmbpboa9]

She almost looks like a black axanthic or maybe a dark chocolate.

[SIGNATURE DESIGN EXOTICS]

cant wait to see what you do. she's a nice looker. good luck!!!

[Daequix]

:iagree: with Bruce! And Steve....please please please....keep the idea of piccies in your mind...lots and lots I can't wait to see what comes of this Mama! She is absolutely gorgeous!

[SERPENTS DEN]

Thanks everyone and I'll keep ya'll updated on this pairing.

[SERPENTS DEN]

She's in the groove....


http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z19/Serpents-Den/_DSC0014.jpg

[Abby]

Woohoo! Awesome Steve!

[Subdriven]

But if you bread to a dark morph and get some dark babies you wouldn't know if the mom passed anything down. if you breed her to a light morph or a normal and any dark babies come out you KNOW her's is genetic.

:)

[SERPENTS DEN]

Woohoo! Awesome Steve!


Thanks Abby!


But if you bread to a dark morph and get some dark babies you wouldn't know if the mom passed anything down. if you breed her to a light morph or a normal and any dark babies come out you KNOW her's is genetic.


It won't be hard to tell IF this dinker proves to be co-dom because statistically the results would be 25% Het. Piebald, 25% Mojave Het. Piebald, 25% Dinker Het. Piebald and 25% Mojave Dinker Het. Piebald. Now if I get just Het Pieds and Mojave Het Pieds they can possibly be Double Hets I would have to try and prove, time will tell...

[SERPENTS DEN]

She's in the groove....


http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z19/Serpents-Den/_DSC0014.jpg


In the pic she is obviously glowing it was her last pairing and she has ovulated.

[Snake4me2]

I dont care if she is genetic or not Id love a normal that looked liked that great snake.

[SERPENTS DEN]

I dont care if she is genetic or not Id love a normal that looked liked that great snake.

Thanks :)

[SERPENTS DEN]

Here's an updated pic.

[Snake4me2]

I still love that animal. Wow

[GreenCountryHerp]

I have a dark normal just like that. Does she have a clear belly Steve?

[B&C Ball Pythons]

She's beautiful Steve! Next season go w/a mojo, would love to see what that would produce :)

[Abby]

She's absolutely lovely. I love her little cinnamon roll photo :) Keep us posted!

[SERPENTS DEN]

I have a dark normal just like that. Does she have a clear belly Steve?


Post some pics of your dark normal, I would like to see it. Mine has a fairly clear belly.


She's beautiful Steve! Next season go w/a mojo, would love to see what that would produce :)


Thank you Bo, I went with a Mojo this season it just happens to also be Pied. :D


She's absolutely lovely. I love her little cinnamon roll photo :) Keep us posted!


Thanks Abby, I'll be updating very soon with pics of her on eggs.

[B&C Ball Pythons]

Bleh! I shoulda read a lil closer. Just caught the pied part. So, that's even better :) Good luck w/that one!

[KY Reptiles]

Oh wow Steve!!! She is gorgeous!!! I saw some dinkers for sale not too long ago that were similar to her and wanted to grab them up but they were local sale only. :(

I really hope she proves to be something AMAZING for you! :thumbsup:

Good luck! She looks full of eggs :)

[KY Reptiles]

Oh wow Steve!!! She is gorgeous!!! I saw some dinkers for sale not too long ago that were similar to her and wanted to grab them up but they were local sale only. :(

I really hope she proves to be something AMAZING for you! :thumbsup:

Good luck! She looks full of eggs :)

[KY Reptiles]

Oops! Double posted for some reason... Dumb blackberry.


Btw that would be a good name for her BlackBerry, lol

[SERPENTS DEN]

Oh wow Steve!!! She is gorgeous!!! I saw some dinkers for sale not too long ago that were similar to her and wanted to grab them up but they were local sale only. :(

I really hope she proves to be something AMAZING for you! :thumbsup:

Good luck! She looks full of eggs :)


Thanks Kelly, I hope she proves out too.

[rcpreis3]

w0000w looks like shes gonna drop u a bunch of eggs! I cant wait for the hatch pics!

[SERPENTS DEN]

w0000w looks like shes gonna drop u a bunch of eggs! I cant wait for the hatch pics!


9 viable eggs, it's going to be a long 2 months now...lol

[B&C Ball Pythons]

Nice big clutch to prove her out with :) Good luck!

[jimssnakes0808]

Let me know when they hatch i will pick one up off you.

[KY Reptiles]

Wow congrats! Bad@ss pics too!! I hope I'm able to catch one of my girls laying this year. I'd love to watch that.

[SERPENTS DEN]

Nice big clutch to prove her out with :) Good luck!

Thanks Bo, my fingers are crossed she'll prove co-dom, I'm impatient. :D


Let me know when they hatch i will pick one up off you.


I'm uncertain if I'll be selling anything from this clutch but you can check back with me after they hatch.


Wow congrats! Bad@ss pics too!! I hope I'm able to catch one of my girls laying this year. I'd love to watch that.


Thanks Kelly and just keep peaking in on your girls and maybe you'll get lucky and catch them laying.

[SERPENTS DEN]

they're starting to emerge, pics coming soon.

[Abby]

they're starting to emerge, pics coming soon.

Can't wait to see! Tease :p

[Fonzi1289]

Is it "soon" yet? lol

[SERPENTS DEN]

Can't wait to see! Tease :p

I can't wait to see the others now. :D


Is it "soon" yet? lol

Soon enough...


http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z19/Serpents-Den/May_22_2011.jpg

[Fonzi1289]

WOW!!
Thats the first one so far?

[SERPENTS DEN]

WOW!!
Thats the first one so far?


I can't hurry them anymore unless I pull the out of the eggs. :rofl:

[PYTHONS_ONLINE]

Super Really nice keep more updates!!!

[jimssnakes0808]

very nice let me know if you end up wanting to get rid of one.

[SERPENTS DEN]

Super Really nice keep more updates!!!

Thanks and the update is; I see more babies like the one that just emerged. :D

[SERPENTS DEN]

very nice let me know if you end up wanting to get rid of one.

Thanks :thumbsup:

[Bob O'Brien]

Really nice Steve.

[Abby]

Gorgeous! Can't wait to see the rest :D

[B&C Ball Pythons]

Nice Steve! Looks like the wait has paid off :) Can't wait to see the others!

[deobra2869]

I cant wait to see what comes from this girl! she is beautiful! congrats on the clutch hopefully she will prove out as something!
:D

[Carlene16]

More pictures please!! I've been checking this too often!

[KY Reptiles]

Gorgeous!!! Can't wait to see more babies!!!

[B&C Ball Pythons]

Enough w/the teasing Steve! Show us more! :D

[PYTHONS_ONLINE]

Enough w/the teasing Steve! Show us more! :D :iagree:

[SERPENTS DEN]

Thanks everyone!

It’s been a busy busy day doing this and doing that but I’ll look to update this thread with more pics asap.

[deobra2869]

WOW that is a beautiful baby put me on the list :D

[Kemah]

Really Cool
Congrats

[Carlene16]

Come on already I'm sure they've all hatched :) I'm getting antsy!

[A&S Reptiles]

Gorgeous baby Steve! Post more. :)

[Abby]

I think someone is being secretive ;) Come on Steve, you can show us! :D

[A&S Reptiles]

:iagree: Very selfish.. ;)

[KY Reptiles]

:iagree: Very selfish.. ;)

Haha! Yea enough teasing already! The suspense I can't take it any longer!! :rofl: :rofl:

[B&C Ball Pythons]

We're going to riot soon Steve......

[SERPENTS DEN]

lmao, I hatched 7 out of 9 eggs but haven't had time to take pics yet but I promise they will be posted soon.

[Carlene16]

Pics or it didn't happen! :yesnod: heheh :)

[Carlene16]

Am I the only one that really wants to see the results! :o

[B&C Ball Pythons]

I think quite a few of us are :)

[dustinNMpythons]

I can't wait to see these too!!

[deobra2869]

hes just holdin out on us now LOL :rofl:

[PYTHONS_ONLINE]

hes just holdin out on us now LOL :rofl: :iagree:

[rcpreis3]

PSSSSST! Steve, u better hurry with those pics, I see torches and pitchforks on the horizon. :rofl:

[SERPENTS DEN]

All but one have shed so I'll be snapping some pics tomorrow to post.

[deobra2869]

oh you are just horrible :rofl: you really know how to keep up the excitement :D
cant wait to see them :)

[GreenCountryHerp]

We are all holding our breath, so be quick about it:D

[dustinNMpythons]

I WOKE UP EXTRA EARLY TO GET THESE PICTURES!!! HAHAHA ok ok you caught me I had to wake up early for work but I still can't wait to see these little gems.

[deobra2869]

pictures, pictures, pictures!
:D

[Abby]

pictures, pictures, pictures!
:D

:iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree:

Come on Steve, we're beggin' ya :D

[SERPENTS DEN]

Here's the males from the clutch, I'll try and get pics of the females up soon. :D

[Abby]

WOW! Love that first guy! :D congrats Steve!

[deobra2869]

that first guy is amazing!!!!!!! I love him :D you should send him here so i can take a closer look hehehe :D

[SERPENTS DEN]

Thanks and here are the females.

[deobra2869]

oh they ara all so beautiful :) corgrats!

[dustinNMpythons]

SO AMAZING!!!! Do you think the first male is a combo of what the mother was and mojave? It seems the last male is a copy of the mother.

[jimssnakes0808]

i really like the 2nd and 3rd females very nice

[SERPENTS DEN]

SO AMAZING!!!! Do you think the first male is a combo of what the mother was and mojave? It seems the last male is a copy of the mother.


Thanks Dustin, it appears to me the striped male and second and third striped females are combos.

[dustinNMpythons]

Do you plan on breeding back to mother to see if a super exists?

[SERPENTS DEN]

Do you plan on breeding back to mother to see if a super exists?


There's no question about it.

[dustinNMpythons]

Great Idea CAN NOT WAIT TO SEE THOSE!!!

[Abby]

Wow, you got some awesome babies Steve :)

[B&C Ball Pythons]

Wow Steve!!! Those are truly amazing animals! Very very nice :)

[KY Reptiles]

Wow Steve I know this is late but those are eye popping!!!!

[Focal]

Beautiful Steve!

[SERPENTS DEN]

Thanks for all the compliments. :thumbsup:

[SERPENTS DEN]

Here's an updated pic of one of the babies.


http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z19/Serpents-Den/DarkStripedMojavecomboMalejpg.jpg

[B&C Ball Pythons]

Gorgeous Steve! Look up the word contrast and you see a pic of this snake smiling :)

[RJK890]

Looking good.
:thumbsup:

Male or Female ?

[SERPENTS DEN]

Thanks, it's a male

[rcpreis3]

Im not really seeing a new trait but a nice "cleaner" gene in there. Shoulda tossed that vanilla on imo. :p

[SERPENTS DEN]

Im not really seeing a new trait but a nice "cleaner" gene in there. Shoulda tossed that vanilla on imo. :p

Look at the dam then look at a normal normal Mojave, I see a difference. I think in a way it resembles a Black Magic aka Black Pastel Mojave but lacking the lateral flames but is something different altogether.

I'll be doing a Vanilla version too :D

[SERPENTS DEN]

Out of 4 eggs that hatched from breeding the striped son back to mom I hatched another fully striped and it's a female so I'll be holding her back to continue line breeding this project.

I think next I'll either breed my male Mystic Pied or a Black Head to mom but I'm going to give her a year off first.

[SERPENTS DEN]

Here's a current pic of one of the females produced in this clutch; she's very dark overall and I plan on pairing her this winter.

[Reptile Frenzy]

Very nice steve!