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deobra2869
12-23-2010, 12:56 AM
does anybody have more info on these ball python morphs? I mean is a latte a blue eye lucy? I dont know if anyone knows or has pics can you please post to help me understand?
thank you so much
-Deobra

Abby
12-23-2010, 07:18 AM
The Mocha is a co-dom in the Blue Eyed White complex of morphs... The Latte is the super form of Mocha. It is a type of blue-eyed leucistic, just not called that because it is a Super Mocha instead of a mix of other BEL-producing morphs.

Here is a picture of the original Mocha female:
http://photos.imageevent.com/royalpythonreptiles/mochaballpython/large/4_0003.jpg

a baby Mocha:
http://photos.imageevent.com/royalpythonreptiles/mochaballpython/huge/RPR_2005%20Mocha%20Ball%20Female_02_11-22-2005.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/royalpythonreptiles/mochaballpython/large/RPR_2005%20Mocha%20Ball%20Female_01_11-22-2005.jpg

Latte babies
http://www.bitemeexotics.com/images/genetics/balls/latte.jpg

The photos are not mine. The Mocha photos belong to Jared Horenstein while the Latte is either his photo or Amir Soleymani's. I don't remember.

I don't think the Mocha/Latte has been bred into the other BEL-producing morphs but it is safe to say that it is compatible with the others.

deobra2869
12-23-2010, 11:51 AM
thank you so much this has helped alot. I like the lattes :)

Focal
12-23-2010, 12:43 PM
What's the belly look like? Is it like a YB?

Abby
12-23-2010, 12:48 PM
What's the belly look like? Is it like a YB?

You'd have to ask Jared or Amir that one ;) I have no clue and there aren't any pics floating around of their bellies.

deobra2869
12-23-2010, 12:59 PM
so what happens when you breed a mocha to a mojave? Does it create a snake such as a mystic potion? or crystal?

Abby
12-23-2010, 01:16 PM
so what happens when you breed a mocha to a mojave? Does it create a snake such as a mystic potion? or crystal?

I don't think it has been done - I'm guessing it would make either more BEL's or maybe another special animal like a potion or crystal. I wouldn't be surprised if someone has tried the cross but is keeping it under wraps.

Balls Deep Reptiles
12-26-2010, 10:10 PM
Anytime I see a morph that I haven't heard of yet I go to Abby's ball python page and it magically appears! Props girl I would be lost with out you!!!!! :)

http://wallflowerherps.weebly.com/ball-python-morph-gallery.html

Abby
12-27-2010, 06:57 AM
Anytime I see a morph that I haven't heard of yet I go to Abby's ball python page and it magically appears! Props girl I would be lost with out you!!!!! :)

http://wallflowerherps.weebly.com/ball-python-morph-gallery.html

Heh, thanks a bunch :)

deobra2869
12-27-2010, 12:35 PM
that was a brilliant page you had set up abby let me know when you find out what the combos for the angel of death are. That snake is amazing :) good job on your site

Abby
12-27-2010, 01:32 PM
that was a brilliant page you had set up abby let me know when you find out what the combos for the angel of death are. That snake is amazing :) good job on your site

Thanks ;) There are a few on there under unknown that I've been notified what they are, just need to update the site... I plan to do some other changes as well but it's taking time :P

Balls Deep Reptiles
12-27-2010, 02:17 PM
that was a brilliant page you had set up abby let me know when you find out what the combos for the angel of death are. That snake is amazing :) good job on your site

Pretty awesome page huh? :thumbsup: When I'm ready for my own website Abby will be the one I call! I haven't found any other morph site even close to this.

Abby
12-27-2010, 02:22 PM
Pretty awesome page huh? :thumbsup: When I'm ready for my own website Abby will be the one I call! I haven't found any other morph site even close to this.

Thanks Joe! I really appreciate the kind words :D

Balls Deep Reptiles
12-27-2010, 02:37 PM
My pleasure! I tell everyone about it every chance I get, hopefully If I have a good season I'll need your help with a website? Keep up the good work!!!!!

Abby
12-27-2010, 03:30 PM
My pleasure! I tell everyone about it every chance I get, hopefully If I have a good season I'll need your help with a website? Keep up the good work!!!!!

You know where to find me!

deobra2869
12-28-2010, 12:33 AM
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/
this is a good website as well but abby you have things on there I have never even seen or imagined :)

Abby
12-28-2010, 12:36 AM
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/
this is a good website as well but abby you have things on there I have never even seen or imagined :)

Love that site too :) It's awesome! I like the layout a lot.

PYTHONS_ONLINE
12-28-2010, 09:18 PM
Here is my mocha Yellow Belly Male :thumbsup:

Abby
12-29-2010, 01:30 AM
Here is my mocha Yellow Belly Male :thumbsup:

Gorgeous! Mind if I add him to my morph list? You'll be credited of course ;)

rcpreis3
12-29-2010, 01:41 AM
What is the mocha yellow belly called? Every combo has to have a cool nick-name!

PYTHONS_ONLINE
12-29-2010, 07:59 AM
Gorgeous! Mind if I add him to my morph list? You'll be credited of course ;)

I don't mind, :) thanks

What is the mocha yellow belly called? Every combo has to have a cool nick-name!

I don't know :shrug01:

Abby
12-29-2010, 08:06 AM
I don't mind, :) thanks

Thanks!

rcpreis3
12-29-2010, 12:19 PM
I don't know :shrug01:

Did u produce it?

snakesRkewl
12-29-2010, 01:33 PM
With 140+ base morphs and all the combo possibilities those cute names become way less cute when you have no clue what is in it without asking or googling the answer.

Mocha yellow belly's would fit very nicely into my yb themed tubs :D

Focal
12-29-2010, 01:40 PM
With 140+ base morphs and all the combo possibilities those cute names become way less cute when you have no clue what is in it without asking or googling the answer.

Mocha yellow belly's would fit very nicely into my yb themed tubs :D

Like the 'Creamy Fudgesickle Orange Pie Belly Vanilla Swirl'? :D

snakesRkewl
12-29-2010, 01:41 PM
Like the 'Creamy Fudgesickle Orange Pie Belly Vanilla Swirl'? :D:rofl: yes, exactly my point :thumbsup:

rcpreis3
12-29-2010, 01:43 PM
With 140+ base morphs and all the combo possibilities those cute names become way less cute when you have no clue what is in it without asking or googling the answer.

Mocha yellow belly's would fit very nicely into my yb themed tubs :D

I agree it gets complicated with the names, but if u say bumblebee everyone is this forum will know what we are talking about, and eventually once the other names catch and those combos become less rare, they will be more well known. The whole fun of breeding for me is to name a new combo, its what really keeps me going!

snakesRkewl
12-29-2010, 02:20 PM
Sounds like a new thread is needed so this one isn't hijacked more than it already is...
Sorry OP ;)