Justin. Feeders Plus

[CCConstrictors]

Im sorry... I was putting off posting these but I feel like I should let others know about my experience.
I purchased some feeders from Feeders plus on a recomendation from a forum member here. I went even after someone on another forum told me not to use feeders plus. I had bought a couple bags of pre frozen fuzzies, upon getting home I realized they had freezer burn, broken limbs and were just a mess. These were supposed to be freshlly frozen??? I also bought some meduim rats which about half looked more like smalls but whatever atleast they looked better than the mice. A few weeks later I opened up one of the bags of large rats I had purchesed and was not happy with what I found. Atleast one in every bag had a sickly anorexia looking rat. Others had weird spots on them. Tossed them straight into the trash! I will NEVER go back to them EVER again. I messaged Justin about it and never got a reply after I mentioned I was unhappy with the rodents. I would recomend staying away from this place.

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[Lucille]

I purchased some feeders from Feeders plus on a recomendation from a forum member here. I went even after someone on another forum told me not to use feeders plus.

Please name them so that they are not anonymous, and we can give the proper weight to what they said.

[Teatime]

Good Lord, they are absolutely disgusting! :eek:

... Did you steal an Arby's tray? lol

[CCConstrictors]

Im not going to name names, its not the other persons fault.
The arbys tray was given to me from an employee thats a friend that works there. Same from Mc Ds

[ShadowAceD]

Those are God awful.

[CCConstrictors]

I know, nasty!

[bmr1052]

The arbys tray was given to me from an employee thats a friend that works there. Same from Mc Ds

I was going to say I hope you are not taking those pics from work lol.

[Amelanistic Orca]

If you want it done right... You gotta do it yourself ;(
Good choice on tossing those!

[Designerboa]

I'm sorry for your bad experience Shawn.

I used to use Justin for my rodents and suggested them to Shawn. I have long since opted for another supplier.

The biggest complaint I had with Justin is inconsistency of size and they were not as clean as I would have liked to see.

Justin is a good guy and I am sure that he will make it right Shawn. Have you made him aware of this thread?

[Focal]

Those are the most disgusting rodents I have ever seen. That's just horrible to treat them like that.

With a long set of tongs and a couple extra minutes, you can package rats in a stunning order that keeps them presentable and prevents limb breakage.

You just saved a lot of people and snakes from potential grief.

[tommyhil4_6]

Those are the most disgusting rodents I have ever seen. That's just horrible to treat them like that.

With a long set of tongs and a couple extra minutes, you can package rats in a stunning order that keeps them presentable and prevents limb breakage.

You just saved a lot of people and snakes from potential grief.

I bypass tongs all together and use latex gloves. Some people seem to forget these are also animals that gave their life for our pets. Some order of respect is due IMHO.

Agreed with above.... I now do it myself. Although there are some very reputable suppliers I have read about (i'll leave others to research their own decisions), but I know 100% fact the rats are produce are top notch, healthy, full of muscle all the good vitamins a proper diet entails..

Good luck on the resolution if any is offered!

-Thomas Cobb-

[Magic Merlin]

It looks like the fuzzies were thrown in the bag and frozen while still alive and the rat is an old, blown out female breeder that lived in a very dirty cage. I agree with everyone else, not very professional.

[tommyhil4_6]

^^ Jason,

Agree with you 100%. Definitely look "live" frozen. Pretty unfortunate. Their legs give it away to me. When "death champered" they are obviously relaxed and their legs will typically lay flat/or more at ease. :( Poor guys/gals.

[CCConstrictors]

I'm sorry for your bad experience Shawn.

I used to use Justin for my rodents and suggested them to Shawn. I have long since opted for another supplier.

The biggest complaint I had with Justin is inconsistency of size and they were not as clean as I would have liked to see.:thumbsup:

Justin is a good guy and I am sure that he will make it right Shawn. Have you made him aware of this thread?

Thanks Bud. Actually you kinda for warned me abput them. There was a guy named Rchard that also lives close to me that highly recomended him. Shouldve taken your advice and went back to backwoods again. Actually i went back there yesterday, 7hr trip but got almost 300 clean, heathy well packaged rats. Id only go back to justin for a cash refund, i dont want any rodents from therr.

[brd7666]

Thanks Bud. Actually you kinda for warned me abput them. There was a guy named Rchard that also lives close to me that highly recomended him. Shouldve taken your advice and went back to backwoods again. Actually i went back there yesterday, 7hr trip but got almost 300 clean, heathy well packaged rats. Id only go back to justin for a cash refund, i dont want any rodents from therr.

Why didn't you drive to Justin's facility? It's a lot closer to you than a seven hour drive. I've been there numerous times. His facility is in Brooksville, and you're in Crystal River. What would that be, a three hour trip there and back?

[CCConstrictors]

Why didn't you drive to Justin's facility? It's a lot closer to you than a seven hour drive. I've been there numerous times. His facility is in Brooksville, and you're in Crystal River. What would that be, a three hour trip there and back?

Did you not read my 1st post??? Hello!

[brd7666]

Did you not read my 1st post??? Hello!

I read your first post, and I don't see where it says you went to his facility.

I've bought all kinds of stuff from Justin, and I've never had a problem.

[Focal]

Have you bought rats?

[hhmoore]

Im not going to name names, its not the other persons fault.
It may not be the other people's fault, but - per the rules of this forum - if you are going to mention what other people tell you about a business, you have to identify them. Failure to do so subjects your post(s) to infractions.

[CCConstrictors]

I read your first post, and I don't see where it says you went to his facility.

I've bought all kinds of stuff from Justin, and I've never had a problem.

Yes. ive been out to justins shack out in the woods, thats how i got rodents from there. Theres a big pile of rat fecies, aspen with dead rodents right by the front entrance.

[Lucille]

Theres a big pile of rat fecies, aspen with dead rodents right by the front entrance.

I don't think I'd proceed with any purchases after seeing something like that. :ack2:

[brd7666]

Have you bought rats?

I have bought rats and mice, live and frozen. Tons of shredded aspen and pine shavings, and tons of rodent food, harlen and his private label. And I mean tons. I never had a problem.

[CCConstrictors]

I don't think I'd proceed with any purchases after seeing something like that. :ack2:

I know, it shouldve been a red flag right away.

[Mackgc]

I'm disgusted by the pics!

All animals deserve respect, even if they are food for our beloved pets. It's bad enough that the animals for Human consumption are mistreated, now we have it in the reptile community?!

These kind of things just show the truth about a person. And if this kinda thing doesn't persuade a person from dealing with Justin or people like him, then they should be avoided too.

Humanly put them down and let them go with dignity!

[Lucille]

I have bought rats and mice, live and frozen. Tons of shredded aspen and pine shavings, and tons of rodent food, harlen and his private label. And I mean tons. I never had a problem.

How did your rats look Brian? And how do you feel about these pictures?

[brd7666]

How did your rats look Brian? And how do you feel about these pictures?

Anything I ever bought from him was fine, never a problem. The pictures don't look very good, but it's hard for me to be sympathetic towards the OP, because he bought them in person. Those rodents were in a clear plastic bag. The OP should have been able to clearly see what he was getting before he even left. He should have been able to see the freezer burn before he even paid for them.

Yes. ive been out to justins shack out in the woods, thats how i got rodents from there. Theres a big pile of rat fecies, aspen with dead rodents right by the front entrance.

Justin might not have the nicest looking buildings in the world, but they are perfect for what he needs them for. So there is absolutely nothing wrong with any of his buildings.

And just to let everyone know, Justin's dumpster is very close to the entrance to his facility. It has to be or they wouldn't be able to get the garbage truck in there to dump it.

[feedersplus]

sorry i was just told about this post...

Lets get the facts out there :

He came and picked up the rodents at our facility.... he actually had me take a bag of large rats in because there was a, "one" piece of poop in the bag, so we gave him a different bag of rodents. thats how closely he looked at the bags.

as for not responding to him : i am including the text messages of us willing to replace stuff....

also, he didnt start out with telling us there was a problem....he first asked when we would b there and then gave us an order and told us about the previous order.

the stuff didn't look like that when he picked the up..... the mice in the pic have ice on them which means they probably thawed out in the corner of the bags and he refroze them....if the stuff was refrozen and pulled apart that cold b the reason for the broken limbs.

we supply many zoos and other large accounts which are very picky and have never had
an issue with or products.

we humanely euthanize all our products with Co2 and then freeze them....

we are focused for 100% customer satisfaction, so well let u guys decide.

Thanks
Justin
owner
Feedersplus.com

[feedersplus]

last text message since u can only upload 4 at a time.


ALSO, those rodents were purchased months before and he waited till he was placing the next order to say something.....if i got those i would have called the day i got home....

just saying

thanks
justin

[brd7666]

we supply many zoos and other large accounts which are very picky and have never had
an issue with or products.

we humanely euthanize all our products with Co2 and then freeze them.

I can vouch for all of this.

[Lucille]

Anything I ever bought from him was fine, never a problem.
I went even after someone on another forum told me not to use feeders plus.
Brian, do you have any pictures of your frozen rats? You have been on here for a long time, as opposed to the anonymous disses from the OP.


Also, and I know maybe it is a small thing, but the OP's pictures were on what I think may be trays taken when they should not have been. Whether or not he was given them I don't know, but it bugs me.

I'd like to hear from more people who bought from this company. The pictures are disgusting, but are they valid pictures of the rats just the way he got them? I agree that if I got bad looking rats I'd email right away, not say nothing until the next time I needed rats.

[brd7666]

Brian, do you have any pictures of your frozen rats? You have been on here for a long time, as opposed to the anonymous disses from the OP.

Sorry Lucille, I don't have any pics. I've been to Justin's facility and his house many times, and I've seen how he does things. He uses co2 on everything.

[Lucille]

Sorry Lucille, I don't have any pics. I've been to Justin's facility and his house many times, and I've seen how he does things. He uses co2 on everything.
I'd still believe you over someone who will not attribute his anonymous disses and who did not say anything for so long about alleged bad rats.
Something just isn't right here.

[tommyhil4_6]

It is nice to hear 2 sides of the story. I will admit the pics seemed "damning" upfront, but the possible explanation from Justin seem to be legit as well.... I do like how he handled the situation without bashing the OP FOR ONCE in MANY MANY THREADS.

He had a clear explanation, provided texts and actually added to the thread, which is rare when someone is being slammed.

Gained points in my book for that reason alone.

Hopefully if there remains any issue, it gets rectified quickly and satisfactorily to all parties involved!

[Kilzac]

One does not need to *bash* to attack someone. Lieng does the Exact same thing. I feel the evident proof on the OP's end is lacking. For all I know is he could have trapped some rats around his house, froze them, and took a picture and stated they were the ones he bought from Justin.

I agree with Lucille as to the fact that Brian has been here longer and his opinions are more credible than the OPs.

Something is just not adding up.

[CCConstrictors]

One does not need to *bash* to attack someone. Lieng does the Exact same thing. I feel the evident proof on the OP's end is lacking. For all I know is he could have trapped some rats around his house, froze them, and took a picture and stated they were the ones he bought from Justin.

I agree with Lucille as to the fact that Brian has been here longer and his opinions are more credible than the OPs.

Something is just not adding up.

Wow really? Like I dont have better things to do with the limited amount of free time I have?

Look at the date the pics were taken. Shortly after I bought them. Its not hard to figure out they werent in my possesion long. I had just worked 12 hrs and barely made it to his facility before closing. Tne fuzzies were packed like they were just thrown in there you couldnt tell if there were anything wrong with them. I shoulve noticed the large rats yesm but when you have a bad one packed between ones that look alright I couldnt see it without taking them out they were that tightly packed. It wasnt poop Justin that I was refusing to buy that one bag, the rats in that bag had SCABS on them. SCABS! Yuk.

[CCConstrictors]

What gain could I possibly have to come on here and lie? Im not looking to get replacement rodents and im certainly NOT a lier. I am an honest and fair person and I should be treated as such. I refuse to believe you all have always had perfect oders from feeders plus with absolutely nothing wrong with any of the rodents after seeing what I had bought.

[Lucille]

What gain could I possibly have to come on here and lie? Im not looking to get replacement rodents and im certainly NOT a lier. I am an honest and fair person and I should be treated as such. I refuse to believe you all have always had perfect oders from feeders plus with absolutely nothing wrong with any of the rodents after seeing what I had bought.

The pictures of the rats showed them lying on stolen trays from fast food restaurants. Maybe not a big deal to you, but still...
When I asked you to identify the anonymous third parties that had given you info, you refused.

I smell a rat.

[CCConstrictors]

I'd still believe you over someone who will not attribute his anonymous disses and who did not say anything for so long about alleged bad rats.
Something just isn't right here.

I am not anonymous here, name and location is right there. Would you like to know more? I wasnt trying to diss anyone here, I am stating the facts and sharing my experience. Alleged bad rats? I think ive provided enough proof.

[Kilzac]

I am not calling you a liar, I am stating that lying can damage someone just as bad as "bashing". I am saying that Justin has tried to refund you for whatever did or did not happen. He seems like an honest guy and their is just no definitive proof that the rats that are photographed are the EXACT rats you bought from Justin.

However this is only my opinion, and my opinion is still the same.

[CCConstrictors]

The pictures of the rats showed them lying on stolen trays from fast food restaurants. Maybe not a big deal to you, but still...
When I asked you to identify the anonymous third parties that had given you info, you refused.

I smell a rat.

They are NOT stolen. So u think im a theif and a liar? Thanks
If you smell something maybe you should take a shower?

[Lucille]

I purchased some feeders from Feeders plus on a recomendation from a forum member here. I went even after someone on another forum told me not to use feeders plus.

Name them.

[brd7666]

Look at the date the pics were taken.

What date? I don't see a date on any of the pics.

[CCConstrictors]

I am not calling you a liar, I am stating that lying can damage someone just as bad as "bashing". I am saying that Justin has tried to refund you for whatever did or did not happen. He seems like an honest guy and their is just no definitive proof that the rats that are photographed are the EXACT rats you bought from Justin.

However this is only my opinion, and my opinion is still the same.

I cant prove they were from him, there wasnt any label on the ziplock bags stating where they came from. How ever I believe I still have his card with a make shift reciete on the back of it.

Yes after I had posted my 1st post I had got a reply back from him. He said he would give me 4 free rats. One, I didnt think that was enough. Two, I do not want anymore rodents from there period. I never replied back as I made my up my mind to go else where from now on.

[CCConstrictors]

What date? I don't see a date on any of the pics.

Pics taken 9/3/12. I can send you one if you would like to see for yourself.

[CCConstrictors]

Name them.

His name was Richard. That is all I remember. I apolagize, I cant for the life of me think of what screen name he used on here. I dont come here often unless its to do a search, ask questions or post everynow and then.

[Kilzac]

They are NOT stolen. So u think im a theif and a liar? Thanks
If you smell something maybe you should take a shower?

Attacking members of this site is not helping your case at all. It makes you look even more discreditable.

Moving on. Your pics were taken 9/3/12, it is now 11/3/12, why wait so long to post your problems with the seller?

You still picked those rats up in person. It is your responsibility to look them over, as same applies with buying anything else. You could have told him again that you did not want the rats that he had handed you. He offered to make it better, I do not think he deserves a bad guy thread, at least with the "evidence" that you have provided.

[CCConstrictors]

Attacking members of this site is not helping your case at all. It makes you look even more discreditable.

Moving on. Your pics were taken 9/3/12, it is now 11/3/12, why wait so long to post your problems with the seller?

You still picked those rats up in person. It is your responsibility to look them over, as same applies with buying anything else. You could have told him again that you did not want the rats that he had handed you. He offered to make it better, I do not think he deserves a bad guy thread, at least with the "evidence" that you have provided.

I didnt think I was attacking? Maybe I came off the wrong way? I waited so long because I am a procrastinator. I honestly wasnt going to post it, I took pics after just for evidence on my own behalf. After it took a while to hear back from Justin I got annoyed and decided to post the photos. Im not trying to say he intetionally sold me these and deliberately ripped me off. Im saying I bought from him and this is what I got, plain and simple.

[meowmeowkazoo]

I didnt think I was attacking? Maybe I came off the wrong way? I waited so long because I am a procrastinator. I honestly wasnt going to post it, I took pics after just for evidence on my own behalf. After it took a while to hear back from Justin I got annoyed and decided to post the photos. Im not trying to say he intetionally sold me these and deliberately ripped me off. Im saying I bought from him and this is what I got, plain and simple.

So you bought mice/rats from him a month ago. Took pictures because there were several that had broken limbs or frostbite. Then a month later contact him because you want to buy MORE despite your unhappiness with the previous purchase. Then you created this thread because you didn't feel he offered you enough new rats to buy your silence?

[feedersplus]

I cant prove they were from him, there wasnt any label on the ziplock bags stating where they came from. How ever I believe I still have his card with a make shift reciete on the back of it.

Yes after I had posted my 1st post I had got a reply back from him. He said he would give me 4 free rats. One, I didnt think that was enough. Two, I do not want anymore rodents from there period. I never replied back as I made my up my mind to go else where from now on.



LETS LOOK AT THE TIME STAMPS TO SEE HOW THIS IS TRUE :

10/29 4:19 PM - SHAWN TEXTED ME ABOUT WHEN WE WOULD BE AROUND AND TOLD ME WHAT HE NEEDED ( IN TEXT MESSAGE PHOTOS)
10/29 6:16 PM - SHAWN POSTED THIS ON BOI
10/29 6:39 PM - SHAWN SENT ME A TEXT SAYING "SENT" MEANING HE EMAILED ME THE PHOTOS..

THANKS
JUSTIN

[feedersplus]

shawn,

if u felt that offer was not fair you should have said so.

we made it based on the pics u sent :

u might have a bunch of pics posted but there duplicate photos :

the first pic is of the whole tray, the other pics are of the same mice, just closer up

and the rat pic is the exact same pic - just posted twice

justin

[Lucille]

His name was Richard. That is all I remember. I apolagize, I cant for the life of me think of what screen name he used on here. I dont come here often unless its to do a search, ask questions or post everynow and then.

Nice. You didn't name the person on the other forum, who you allege warned you. And you just 'don't remember' how to identify the person here.





He came and picked up the rodents at our facility.... he actually had me take a bag of large rats in because there was a, "one" piece of poop in the bag, so we gave him a different bag of rodents. thats how closely he looked at the bags.



So it looks like he checked them out pretty well?


Look at the date the pics were taken. Shortly after I bought them. Its not hard to figure out they werent in my possesion long..

A few weeks later I opened up one of the bags of large rats I had purchesed and was not happy with what I found.

There seems to be a bit of a time discrepancy.

[chazzz]

Im sorry... I was putting off posting these but I feel like I should let others know about my experience.
I purchased some feeders from Feeders plus on a recomendation from a forum member here. I went even after someone on another forum told me not to use feeders plus. I had bought a couple bags of pre frozen fuzzies, upon getting home I realized they had freezer burn, broken limbs and were just a mess. These were supposed to be freshlly frozen??? I also bought some meduim rats which about half looked more like smalls but whatever atleast they looked better than the mice. A few weeks later I opened up one of the bags of large rats I had purchesed and was not happy with what I found. Atleast one in every bag had a sickly anorexia looking rat. Others had weird spots on them. Tossed them straight into the trash! I will NEVER go back to them EVER again. I messaged Justin about it and never got a reply after I mentioned I was unhappy with the rodents. I would recomend staying away from this place.



The part in bold is what I'm concerned about and it goes with what I quoted from Justin's post below. Others have also commented on this but it still doesn't sit right with me. You claim that a couple weeks after you purchased them you noticed these issues and tossed them. I'm assuming you had enough Rats and mice to cover you even though you tossed out so many. What exactly were you feeding your animals and where did those rodents come from until you contacted Justin again for another order, then made him aware of your displeasure with your last order? Also the part of Never going back to them EVER again. Well this isn't true since just minutes before you posted this you were going to purchase from him again. Also Justin did get back to you when you sent him a message about a new order and he also replied to you about the bad rodents you received within minutes of your messages. Can you explain this? You obviously weren't that displeased with your rodents if you were going to place another order, to make a statement as to NEVER EVER deal with them again. It just doesn't add up from what is presented in this thread. I hope you can see why I'm having trouble as well as others in this thread with your reasoning.

sorry i was just told about this post...

Lets get the facts out there :

He came and picked up the rodents at our facility.... he actually had me take a bag of large rats in because there was a, "one" piece of poop in the bag, so we gave him a different bag of rodents. thats how closely he looked at the bags.

as for not responding to him : i am including the text messages of us willing to replace stuff....

also, he didnt start out with telling us there was a problem....he first asked when we would b there and then gave us an order and told us about the previous order.

the stuff didn't look like that when he picked the up..... the mice in the pic have ice on them which means they probably thawed out in the corner of the bags and he refroze them....if the stuff was refrozen and pulled apart that cold b the reason for the broken limbs.

we supply many zoos and other large accounts which are very picky and have never had
an issue with or products.

we humanely euthanize all our products with Co2 and then freeze them....

we are focused for 100% customer satisfaction, so well let u guys decide.

Thanks
Justin
owner
Feedersplus.com


Also if anyone else has purchased Frozen rodents from Justin could please post their experience in this thread that would be really helpful.
Also for Brian Dierking (Brd7666) you are obviously extremely happy with the feeders you get from Justin if you could take some pics of your frozen feeders that you have from Justin I think that would go a long way.
thanks
Charles

[feedersplus]

here is a pic of or small/med/large rats

thanks
justin

ps....i think shawn was mad that we didnt have live mice available at the time he wanted to come.....incase he doesnt know....there is a nationwide mouse shortage right now....

[Kilzac]

Those look to be as good of feeders as any I have ever bought.

[CCConstrictors]

The part in bold is what I'm concerned about and it goes with what I quoted from Justin's post below. Others have also commented on this but it still doesn't sit right with me. You claim that a couple weeks after you purchased them you noticed these issues and tossed them. I'm assuming you had enough Rats and mice to cover you even though you tossed out so many. What exactly were you feeding your animals and where did those rodents come from until you contacted Justin again for another order, then made him aware of your displeasure with your last order? Also the part of Never going back to them EVER again. Well this isn't true since just minutes before you posted this you were going to purchase from him again. Also Justin did get back to you when you sent him a message about a new order and he also replied to you about the bad rodents you received within minutes of your messages. Can you explain this? You obviously weren't that displeased with your rodents if you were going to place another order, to make a statement as to NEVER EVER deal with them again. It just doesn't add up from what is presented in this thread. I hope you can see why I'm having trouble as well as others in this thread with your reasoning.


Charles

(I still had rats left over from a last trip tp backwoods before I even went to Justin. I didnt how ever have any hoppers or fuzzies that I needed fast. So I bought a few bags of large med and small rats to stock back up a little).

Im not sure how I can make this any clearer. I messaged Justin about buying more LIVE rodents. I wanted to see if he had anything instock and if he was even available before anything else. I was still debating on going back since he is the closest rodent supplier I have found. I messaged him about the ones I had major issues with as you can see. I wasnt about to buy another frozen rodent from him so I inquired about live. It was an hour before I had heard back from Justin after my complaint was made so I got annoyed with him and posted. After I had already posted did I get a message back Justin asking for pics n such so I sent them to him so he could see for himself. I was not angry at all when you said you didnt have mice Justin. This is not the case at all. I had already posted before you had offered me any free rats and by the time you did I had made up my mind not to do buisness with you again. The only thing id want from Justin is an open apology, I dont want rats and i dont want a refund now. You havent denied that these rodents came from you, admit to your mistake and ill be happy with that.

[brd7666]

(I still had rats left over from a last trip tp backwoods before I even went to Justin. I didnt how ever have any hoppers or fuzzies that I needed fast. So I bought a few bags of large med and small rats to stock back up a little).

Im not sure how I can make this any clearer. I messaged Justin about buying more LIVE rodents. I wanted to see if he had anything instock and if he was even available before anything else. I was still debating on going back since he is the closest rodent supplier I have found. I messaged him about the ones I had major issues with as you can see. I wasnt about to buy another frozen rodent from him so I inquired about live. It was an hour before I had heard back from Justin after my complaint was made so I got annoyed with him and posted. After I had already posted did I get a message back Justin asking for pics n such so I sent them to him so he could see for himself. I was not angry at all when you said you didnt have mice Justin. This is not the case at all. I had already posted before you had offered me any free rats and by the time you did I had made up my mind not to do buisness with you again. The only thing id want from Justin is an open apology, I dont want rats and i dont want a refund now. You havent denied that these rodents came from you, admit to your mistake and ill be happy with that.

Wow, you only waited an hour. That is pathetic. Justin doesn't owe you anything. If I were Justin, I would put you on my do not sell to list.

[CCConstrictors]

Wow, you only waited an hour. That is pathetic. Justin doesn't owe you anything. If I were Justin, I would put you on my do not sell to list.

To late, he is on my do not buy from list. :rofl:

[CCConstrictors]

All the babling on about text this or when that doesnt change the fact that I bought rodents from feeder plus that had no buisness even being sold to anyone, and thats a fact. Im not saying all the feeders I bought were bad but the ones that were, were terrible!

[Kilzac]

Patience is a virtue, which you are lacking, among other things.

I think it's time to let this thread die. I, at least, have made my decision on who to never buy or sell too, and it's not Justin.

It seems you have symbolically punched a brick wall, Chris.

[Kilzac]

Shawn*, not Chris.

My mistake.

[brd7666]

To late, he is on my do not buy from list. :rofl:

Add me to your list too. Thanks

[Lucille]

All the babling on about text this or when that doesnt change the fact that I bought rodents from feeder plus that had no buisness even being sold to anyone, and thats a fact. Im not saying all the feeders I bought were bad but the ones that were, were terrible!

I'm not convinced and it is possible the photos were a setup. There are all kinds of discrepancies that have been pointed out.
Plus, not one additional person has come forward to say that they received subpar rodents, and the person who did come forward, Brian, says he never had a problem.

[CCConstrictors]

Add me to your list too. Thanks

Done!

I'm not convinced and it is possible the photos were a setup. There are all kinds of discrepancies that have been pointed out.
Plus, not one additional person has come forward to say that they received subpar rodents, and the person who did come forward, Brian, says he never had a problem.

Im not here to convience you, there is no setup, no one is deceiving you, believe what you must.

Patience is a virtue, which you are lacking, among other things.

I think it's time to let this thread die. I, at least, have made my decision on who to never buy or sell too, and it's not Justin.

It seems you have symbolically punched a brick wall, Chris.

I have patience, I have virtues and I run out of patients when basically called a lier, a theif and pathetic when all ive done is post my experince and the truth. Its no wonder alot of people call the boi a bad joke. None of you know who I am but are quick to try and judge when you know nothing.

[CCConstrictors]

Thank you all who took this thread seriously. Thanks for your support.

[meowmeowkazoo]

Done!



Im not here to convience you, there is no setup, no one is deceiving you, believe what you must.



I have patience, I have virtues and I run out of patients when basically called a lier, a theif and pathetic when all ive done is post my experince and the truth. Its no wonder alot of people call the boi a bad joke. None of you know who I am but are quick to try and judge when you know nothing.

In general the people who are calling the BOI a joke are the bad guys. :rolleyes:

[Lucille]

None of you know who I am but are quick to try and judge when you know nothing.

Wait a minute. YOU brought this issue here. As for what we know, you came here and provided info and that is what many of us are going by.
The first pictures are horrible, but when the discrepancies started showing up, when you forgot the identities of people you used to bolster your case, and when the one person who did come forward said he had no problems, people started to question.
Add to that the reasonable post by the seller, and it all just doesn't add up to what you would have everyone believe.

[CCConstrictors]

Wait a minute. YOU brought this issue here. As for what we know, you came here and provided info and that is what many of us are going by.
The first pictures are horrible, but when the discrepancies started showing up, when you forgot the identities of people you used to bolster your case, and when the one person who did come forward said he had no problems, people started to question.
Add to that the reasonable post by the seller, and it all just doesn't add up to what you would have everyone believe.

One of them did comment and he said he has had problems with cleanliness and consistency. But that has been ignored. The other that keeps saying he has never had a problem seems to be a friend and is bent on defending and hasnt posted any pics after being asked. I have provided all that I have short of having my wife and kids come on here and tell you because they seen what I had bought. I have nothing against Justin besides what you see in the pics, I am not trying ruin anyones reputation, I am trying to get my point across that I have recieved bad rodents from feeders plus either accedently or intentional it doesnt matter either way they were disgusting.

[brd7666]

Right now, I don't have any frozen rodents at all. I am currently using live. So, I have not been able to post any pics. If I wanted to lie or be deceitful, I could have had Justin send me some pics, and said they were mine, but I have no reason to lie. I have bought all kinds of stuff from Justin, and quite a few people I know have as well, and to my knowledge, no one I know has had a problem.

[Lucille]

quite a few people I know have as well, and to my knowledge, no one I know has had a problem.
Perhaps you could name them.

[Designerboa]

I used Justin for about a year and a half. I have always found Justin pleasant and willing to help. I also know Shawn from the forums and he has never given me any reason to doubt his word.

Feeders Plus was a God Send in our hour of need when our regular vendor went out of business. He always had the sizes I needed at a fair price. Before I started using Justin my rodent vendor supplied very clean, consistent rodents packaged on deli trays. Needless to say when I started using Feeders Plus it was in stark contrast to what I had become accustomed.

Shawn did reach out to me and asked if I knew of anyone who could supply his collection. I suggested Feeders Plus. Shawn asked me what my experience had been with Jason. I told him that Jason was a good guy but I had quit using him. When Shawn asked me why I quit using him I told him that Jasons product wasn't as clean or as consistent as what I was used to.

I never had any other complaint about the Feeder Plus product and I would use Jason again. I stand by my first contribution to this thread. That Jason is a good guy and would stand behind his product.

I think Shawn is a good guy too and hope he has learned his lesson about jumping on the BOI with a complaint without trying to work things out with a vendor first.

[Bill T]

We purchased from Justin today at his facility. He was very helpful and the pinkies where perfect.I would have no problems recommending him.

[CCConstrictors]

I used Justin for about a year and a half. I have always found Justin pleasant and willing to help. I also know Shawn from the forums and he has never given me any reason to doubt his word.

Feeders Plus was a God Send in our hour of need when our regular vendor went out of business. He always had the sizes I needed at a fair price. Before I started using Justin my rodent vendor supplied very clean, consistent rodents packaged on deli trays. Needless to say when I started using Feeders Plus it was in stark contrast to what I had become accustomed.

Shawn did reach out to me and asked if I knew of anyone who could supply his collection. I suggested Feeders Plus. Shawn asked me what my experience had been with Jason. I told him that Jason was a good guy but I had quit using him. When Shawn asked me why I quit using him I told him that Jasons product wasn't as clean or as consistent as what I was used to.

I never had any other complaint about the Feeder Plus product and I would use Jason again. I stand by my first contribution to this thread. That Jason is a good guy and would stand behind his product.

I think Shawn is a good guy too and hope he has learned his lesson about jumping on the BOI with a complaint without trying to work things out with a vendor first.

Thank you, very much appreciated.


For the record, i posted the truth and nothing else. Next time ill think a bit more before posting...lol. Still will never ever go back to Justin

[Mblackburn72]

I have been buying frozen rats, mice, and live pinky rats from Justin for over a year now and haven't had any issues yet. I have always gotten good looking rats and mice so far.

[CCConstrictors]

I dont get it??? Did i just get the old crap when I went or do I just have higher standerds?