Looking for info on 'Gold Dust' Piebald

[phoenix-cry]

I just got one of the original 'gold dust' pieds that was originally produced by Dan Wolfe from a pair of double het albino pieds. He ended up with two of these guys with oddly broken up speckled patterns.

I know that this boy produced a similarly speckled female pied for Mike Russo this year, and I was told he produced some speckled pieds in previous years.

If you own any of his offspring, or any of the offspring from his sibling (who I believe was female) I would love to hear from you and if you have pics that would be great.

Also this boy is ph for albino and I'm wondering if anyone has ever tried to prove out his albino side.

He's seven years old so I assume he's had a few owners. Being such a unique pattern I thought it might be easier to find info out on him and his blood line.

I will be breeding him to a black pastel pied to see what happens.

http://img01.deviantart.net/d8bb/i/2015/268/2/5/dream_snake_by_phoenix_cry-d9au3yw.jpg

[antthrax]

Just wanted to stay how beautiful he looks. I think 'gold leaf' would've been a better name lol

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[phoenix-cry]

Thank you! I'm stupid proud to own this snake. Although someone pointed out an obvious name that I like too. Pixel Pied. ;)

[antthrax]

Haha pixel pied for the win

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[phoenix-cry]

Yeah. It really is the best name. I'm going to have to ask them if I can 'steal' that. ;)

[chkadii]

Yeah. It really is the best name. I'm going to have to ask them if I can 'steal' that. ;)
Hey, sorry to dig up an older thread. I wanted to get your opinion on whether or not the girl I just picked up could be the same gene, and I was wondering if you have any more back story on the gold dust/pixel pied?

Here she is:
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/28/b19ff0e68ad3cf9139d366951a5c9a53.jpg

[phoenix-cry]

That very much looks like it could be the same gene or one like it in action? Where did you get her?

All I learned is that my male was used to produce a few het for pied that held their color very nicely as they aged and had a bit of a reduced pattern (never heard back from the person who had one to see if she ever bred her), and that he was also used to produce several pied that held the same broken pattern as him when Mike Russo bred him. The female that was part of the original pieds produced is lost to the internet. Also my guy is 66% het for albino since it was a double het parents who produced him.

[chkadii]

I got her at the last Oaks, PA expo. She was actually bred by the cousin of the vendor who sold her. I'm out of state, but I'll reach out to them tomorrow to see if they had pied stock from either Russo or Wolfe. She's just a hatchling, but I'd love to keep in touch with you to see if the trait is genetic. I'd be interested in pairing her with offspring from your line to see what comes of it.

[phoenix-cry]

That sounds great! I've been breeding my boy to a black pastel pied female so I'm hoping for a good clutch! If I can get a black pastel pied with the digital look that would rock!

[phoenix-cry]

Update on the project!

http://img00.deviantart.net/7441/i/2016/007/d/5/snake_lurv_by_phoenix_cry-d9n2gms.jpg

[Fedwa001]

Wow those are some beautiful looking pieds. Really love the digital looking ones. Maybe one day Ill be able to afford one ha ha.

[Deuce]

Wow, that's super cool. It must be a different "line" of piebald, kind of like a sugar to a calico or a butter to a lesser. Or maybe it has a gene hidden in there that's totally different? Either way, awesome snakes!

[phoenix-cry]

Thanks guys! Yeah, no one is really sure what is going on with the pixelated pied boy (other than the fact that he has had babies that look like him). I hope to get a pixel black pastel pied!

[phoenix-cry]

Just some more pics of my boy. He has been breeding like a champ!

http://orig11.deviantart.net/e7ee/f/2016/028/d/3/pixel_pied_2_by_phoenix_cry-d9pmm0g.jpg

http://orig04.deviantart.net/d4c7/f/2016/028/d/2/pixel_pied_by_phoenix_cry-d9pmlxr.jpg

[Pasodama]

Beautiful! Really like the looks of this type of (pied) pattern.
Good luck with the breeding, etc.!

[phoenix-cry]

Thanks! I'm excited to see this clutch!

[Deuce]

Oh man, super cool! Let us know the results. And uh, if you decide to sell any, you should definitely pm me. :cool:

[phoenix-cry]

I will keep you in the loop!

[SPJ]

Isn't gold dusty a name of a line of mojave?
That would make a gold dust pied, a mojave pied but from the gold dust line.

[SPJ]

Nevermind. Gold blush is what I was thinking of. Too many similar names.

[phoenix-cry]

One of the reasons I am calling it 'pixel pied' is there is a gold dust which I think is mahogany mixed with something. This guy doesn't have a known secondary gene in him. I just suspect he has something 'new'. :). But I use air quotes on both since I have no prof yet that he isn't just a cool looking normal pied.

[chkadii]

Nevermind. Gold blush is what I was thinking of. Too many similar names.
If I remember correctly, weren't mojave pieds called gold/en nuggets as well? In addition, now on WOBP "Gold Dust" is the combo name of suma spiders. BHB has no respect for the little guys' dinker projects, tsk tsk tsk... (jk). And that's not to be confused with the "Gold Dust Spider," which is allegedly a spider super black opal (which I have never heard of or seen).

While I'm normally against changing gene/line names (if only for maintaining provenance), calling these guys pixel pieds makes much more sense in my opinion - the name is unused, to my knowledge, and it actually describes what the animals look like. Plus OP has maintained provenance to the best of her ability, and the original (known) breeders have left the hobby, so they have no stake in the matter from a marketing standpoint.

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[ClarkT]

I LOVE the Pixel Pied name!
Sweet looking snake for sure.

That clutch will be full of awesome babies, for sure!

[phoenix-cry]

Thanks all! I'm very excited!