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The NY Gecko
02-24-2006, 01:09 AM
i decided to buy some waxies today for my leos along with my normal order of crickets. bad idea at the time? not to my knowledge. i figured they mightve grown bored with having crickets for the last 6 months and get something different. twas not to be. i get home and immediately dropping them onto the cage floor and watching as both females start sucking them in with gusto. a good 6-8 each i think. my male was content to sit and watch with no ill will about it. does this please me? no it does not. so i grab the tweasers thinking senior gecko is just lazy. turns out thats the case. maybe. i hold them up to his nose and he begins rapidly inhaling them. awesome, for now. i had given him about 6. the first few he had lunged at. now he was kinda just opening his mouth and letting me stick them in. not natural. i stopped feeding him after i reached 6 or 7. 10 minutes later after finishing fixing my fish tank filter that is now malfunctioning due to a power outage i come back to them in their hides and a pile of regurgatated worms on the floor. beautiful, just what i want to see. i took him down stairs and gave him a 10 minute soak in the bath tub which funnily enough he seemed to enjoy. im at my wits end. ive done everything i can to help him. im not sure if its just winter time and his body is rejecting food or what. nothing in his habitat has changed. same lighting, same temps. same food, same water, same everything. its really starting to bug me. i gave him water with a syringe earlier after the soak as well. no one in my family can afford a vet bill right now. i feel as though im SOL. hes done similar things for 2 winters now. not vomitted. before he just wouldnt eat. now hes refusing all food with the exception of todays treat. did i maybe over do it and his body couldnt handle that much food after not having been eating or being inactive. his body weight is also lowering. hes got no bone deformities and his eyes are wide open and clean. nostrils arent runny and he doesnt have a rubbery jaw.
help

shadraak
02-24-2006, 02:22 AM
i'd say give him only 2-3 later today, if he keeps them down then atleast you know that is what the problem is, if not well then you may have a problem with parasites or as you said just refusing food. maybe even try some baby food, i see that on other forums, let them lick it off of your finger, just not too much.

The NY Gecko
02-24-2006, 09:05 AM
will do. my only fear is that if i do it and he throws up again its just making him more dehydrated. tahnks. more opinions welcome

shadraak
02-24-2006, 01:10 PM
well dont use water when you are syringe feeding him, try a little pedialite, always use it on my ferrets when they're sick , they seem to bounce right back up.

The NY Gecko
02-24-2006, 05:20 PM
bad news. i found another pile of worms on the cage floor. this is im 100% assured is not from my male. i know he got everything out of him yesterday for a fact. this was one of the other ones. i have no money for a vet and im tweaking out. i havent tried the slurry yet, but i dont have even half the stuff

HerpAddict
02-24-2006, 09:35 PM
Perhaps it was bad worms? Just the fact that they were all fine, and now are having troubles since the worm. Admittedly, if they are in the same cage, if one caught something bad off the other feeders, it will get around to all of them fairly quick.

Are the girls eating fine? Are they breeding? If so, I personally would remove the male, just so that he isn't trying to think about breeding when he's already not eating.

I've never had this happen to me before, sorry I can't offer anything more.

Goodluck.

The NY Gecko
02-24-2006, 11:02 PM
no, no breeding to my knowledge. theyve been eating fine. but they each had about 8. could some many waxies be overload on them? the one is just about 48g +/- 2g. the other is prlly around 35.

HerpAddict
02-24-2006, 11:12 PM
Well, I'm not a fan of binging them on waxies, as it can lead to diahrrea, and apparently vomiting now too...put them off my list of feeders for a while!:P
I have given mine around 6 at one time without problems, but each gecko is different.

If you can't afford the vet, then I would say the only thing to do would be the slurry and possibly isolation. Start saving for a vet visit, I personally have 'rainy day' money set aside for my guys, and the fund gets proportionally larger as I add more geckos. $5-10 a week is all it takes, and it grows quickly when you don't touch it. When mine gets too large, I use it for a new enclosure, or a special treat.

Goodluck!

The NY Gecko
02-24-2006, 11:14 PM
more difficult being 15 with no job, but its an idea. but it doesnt help my current situation.

The NY Gecko
02-24-2006, 11:15 PM
ill try the slurry asap. idk what else to do after that. if they all get sick i suppose i could take on to the vet with a fecal sample and feel its safe to assume theyve all got the same thing? then get triples of the treatments? maybe then it wouldnt cost as much as having each animal checked out. srry for double post

dragonflyreptiles
02-25-2006, 05:46 AM
They may have eaten too much and it could just be the winter time. I have 4 that I know have not eaten for a while and they are all fine but they are NOT losing weight.

Thats the only thing that really concerns me is the weight loss.

I only use waxies 2 maybe 3 times a year and only give them a very few.

If you want to try a different food item for them Id go with mealworms, super worms or silkworms.

If you can't get all of the ingredients for the slurry (which I have had happen a couple of times when I could not get everything exactly as listed) and I took the slurry recipe Marcia at GGG created and did this:

1 small can (petsmart) (EDIT FROM ORIGINAL)
1/4-1/3 cup Carnation Instant Breakfast (EDIT FROM ORIGINAL)
1 jar baby food squash
1/4-1/3 cup Pedialite
DELETED (EDIT FROM ORIGINAL)
1/2 tsp. each calcium powder and herp vitamin powder
1 large handful of mealworms ( or supers or silkies, what I had on hand as feeders -EDIT FROM ORIGINAL)), added slowly while mixture is blending

Puree all ingredients until completely smooth, and pour into ice cube tray(s) and freeze. Store cubes in zip-lock bag in the freezer until ready to use, then thaw out 1 cube at a time and store in fridge for 2-3 days. I use the empty baby food jar for this purpose, washing it thoroughly after each batch.

Using this mixture, draw a full dropper (eye dropper type) and place a drop on the gecko's nose. It will lick it off, and as it does, slowly squeeze out a little at a time. Most geckos love this food, and will lap it up. Feed them as much as they will take a couple of times a day.

dragonflyreptiles
02-25-2006, 05:55 AM
Oh the canned dog food I used was Iams Lamb and Rice since thats what I already had at home.

LeosForLess
02-25-2006, 10:21 AM
About the decals, Alex hue has a vet doing them for free! Go to his forums and go to giveaways and contests, its free you just have to pay to ship them.