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dragonflame
03-04-2006, 12:03 AM
Do any of you guys know if these things turn into adults? Aren't they flies? I can't find any info on them. Do they need special condidtions to mature? I ordered them and they came in today. My geckos love them!!!
BalloonzForU
03-04-2006, 02:13 AM
I have not idea, curious thou. Here's something I found doing a search.

http://reptilesites.com/Invision/index.php?showtopic=113&st=0&#entry302
Sauradon
03-04-2006, 02:18 AM
they turn into wasps. if you are intending on breeding them their main problem is they need large areas to engage in courtship.
groovygeckos
03-04-2006, 11:37 AM
Let them go in a reptarium possibly? I dunno
raiquee
03-04-2006, 11:58 AM
Ew! Wasps!!! :P Yuckie...
The NY Gecko
03-04-2006, 11:58 AM
they turn into wasps. if you are intending on breeding them their main problem is they need large areas to engage in courtship. see that word? the one i bolded out? thats enough to make me wanna run for the hills. i hate bees and particularly wasps
BalloonzForU
03-04-2006, 12:05 PM
I agree, yuck!
BalloonzForU
03-04-2006, 12:06 PM
But then again, I'm not a gecko either.
dragonflame
03-04-2006, 02:13 PM
Ewww, I thought they were fly maggots... I will NOT be breeding lol, I just wanted to know if and when these guys mature. If so much as ONE turns into a wasp I'm throwing all of them in the fire and sticking to mealworms lol!
NiCoLe L RuSSeLL
03-04-2006, 02:20 PM
what ever happened to old fashioned crix and mealies
LeosForLess
03-04-2006, 03:18 PM
I think better and better foods just keep getting found.
Ian S.
03-04-2006, 07:44 PM
I think better and better foods just keep getting found.

How do we really know that they are better. Mealies and cricks have done just fine for all these years and Phoenix worms are a relatively new food item. I just can't find myself fixing something that isn't broken. Just my two cents. :no_evil01
LeosForLess
03-04-2006, 11:45 PM
I'm just saying that back in the day before i was around crix and mealies were fishing bait(i think i should leave this one to Dan the Fireman)and they were already being heavily produced. So they were the obvious answer.
Shelley1063
03-05-2006, 12:52 AM
they turn into wasps
Actually, they are the larvae of the Black Soldier Fly.
reptilebreeder
03-05-2006, 03:12 AM
How do we really know that they are better. Mealies and cricks have done just fine for all these years and Phoenix worms are a relatively new food item. I just can't find myself fixing something that isn't broken. Just my two cents. :no_evil01I think more variety the better. Not to anthropomorphise, but who wants to eat the same thing all the time. Most animals eat a variety of foods in the wild, so why not in captivity?
hill4803
03-05-2006, 11:12 AM
Shelley is right they are soldier fly larva. The guy who produces these is here in Georgia (and he was a Bulldog too!!!) anyway, they are produced in chicken houses and they breed and lay eggs in the chicken wastes. They are great at helping get rid of the poop. They are also not pests...no stinging, biting or anything like that.
groovygeckos
03-05-2006, 11:19 AM
Huh... and dont chickens carry coccidia and other types of parasites?
Sauradon
03-06-2006, 05:01 PM
I'm sorry your correct, their not wasps but flies. This is an excellent link for information/more links. http://www.dendroboard.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11154&highlight=hermetia
Essentially the main point is they require a 2 x 2 x 4 (meter) enclosure. Or roughly 6' x 6' x 12'. If you have the space they are excellent decomposers and accumate lots of Ca. -Chris.
USAGECKOS
03-07-2006, 11:16 AM
I feed them to my cresteds and Gargoyle, and they love them! I have definately noticed a growth spert since my cresteds have been eating them.

Not sure if I will start feeding them to the Leos or Fat Tails because they are quite expensive. $9.95 for 100-150
Supahypegex
03-07-2006, 05:18 PM
I tried them once but the price tag for how big they were was a bit much next time I'll be getting some silkworms and only about half of my leos liked them
cristoswpb
11-13-2012, 07:05 PM
The black soldier fly looks and flys like a wasp, but they do not sting or bite,
are docile and do not swarm or as bothersome as a regular house fly.
On my tilapia farm I produce BSF's for my fish and they go crazy for them.
The BSF larvae's nutrients surpass many fish foods, and supply a great
suppliment. BSF larvae will eat about anything, but I give mine a strict vegetarian diet,
as most pathagens live in animal waste or spoiled meats.
Many times my larva overproduce, and can sell the overstock at a discount.
Email cnosnevets@yahoo.com if interested.