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Info Rodentpro

Focal X said:
Just curious, but did she say why not to use the paste? Luckily, I've never had to use either yet.
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She said the paste was designed for horses and it would be harder for me to dose, I was having a hard enough time understanding how to do the oral. But I like doing things that I was told, that way:

1. I dont screw it up
2. If I follow her directions and my animals health is affected, it would be her fault. If I dont follow her directions and try something else its my fault.
3. I dont mind spending the money to have a 1000mL bottle that 18 snakes will share at 0.1ml per pound. It stays good for two years as well.

But we are starting to get a bit off topic and I dont want none of ya'll getting infractions.
 
So what did you take to get looked at buy the vet? The snake or just the worms in the water? Did the vet do an actual fecal or what? if so do you have the results to post?
 
rcpreis3 said:
Frozen, and no I havent. This isnt a bad guy thread but an info thread, they have no need to defend themselves, yet. This is general info for people who use them to know that this is what I found, and if they feel it necessary to hold off feeding until I have a definite answer. Once I have confirmation that infact it was Rodentpros rats believe me I will contact Casey.
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Then I have to ask what if you find out that they have nothing to do with the feeders? The damage is there already.

Regardless if you are right or wrong at this point, You state this is just a info thread and they need not defend themselves. People can hold off feeding which also translate for some holding off purchasing.

Sorry but that is just not fair to anyone.

The only thing you know at this point is you had parasites in your water bowl. I can think of a lot of reasons of how that could of happened.

Some people have had issues with shipments and some haven't but to be perfectly fair in this circumstance, I think you should have waited to find out the type of pinworm and more information.

Simply because you haven't noticed them before and the very circumstantial fact that you just started using a new supplier of rodents.

Also, yes I've read the embryos can survive up to 48 hrs frozen. Feeders are usually in the box longer than that being delivered. Plus frozen before and after delivery. I find it all highly unlikely but am very interested in the results.


 
Dennis Hultman said:

Then I have to ask what if you find out that they have nothing to do with the feeders? The damage is there already.

Regardless if you are right or wrong at this point, You state this is just a info thread and they need not defend themselves. People can hold off feeding which also translate for some holding off purchasing.

Sorry but that is just not fair to anyone.

The only thing you know at this point is you had parasites in your water bowl. I can think of a lot of reasons of how that could of happened.

Some people have had issues with shipments and some haven't but to be perfectly fair in this circumstance, I think you should have waited to find out the type of pinworm and more information.

Simply because you haven't noticed them before and the very circumstantial fact that you just started using a new supplier of rodents.

Also, yes I've read the embryos can survive up to 48 hrs frozen. Feeders are usually in the box longer than that being delivered. Plus frozen before and after delivery. I find it all highly unlikely but am very interested in the results.
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If the results come back clean I have no problem immediately posting such info. But to tell them hey u might have worms in ur rats will make them have to check their colonies, and run tests. The tests cost money and so does it to pay the employees to gather and such. I didnt want them to spend unnecassary time or money on sumthin that might not be their fault. The reason this is here is to let those who care know that they may wanna hold off feeding until I have conclusive test results back from the rats. Im not trying to slander or demean Rodentpro in anyway. Just with the coincidences combined with info from my vet it really didnt leave any other conclusion. And Id rather be safe to let someone know this might affect them, then be sorry I kept my mouth shut.
 
Actually, I find this to be a more likely source than frozen feeders.

rcpreis3 said:
Ive actually been thinking about a large scale breeding of these lil anoles running around my yard, they arent native and are pretty abundant around here. I know the risks of feeding reptile to reptile cuz of the easy transfer of related illnesses and parasites.

But if I take the time to clean them up and set up a breeding program would anyone be interested in them?

The big ones get to be about 6-8 inches long.

Idk it just a thought I came across while reading another post.

Lemme know ur opinions! :D
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Or maybe the live ones you bought locally.
This post was last year when you stated you were going with someone locally. That purchase of rodentpro was more than 8 months ago.

rcpreis3 said:
Thats funny, when I got mine all the peach fuzzies were rolling around in the bag, "free roaming" i guess u could call it. :shrug01:

I was gonna use them again but I think I found a semi local breeder who will hook me up. Plus I still got about three months of food. oh well, to each his own
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Links-

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207700
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=210415

rcpreis3 said:
I got some from rodentpro.com and after a lil research they have mostly the best prices, depending on what u want. Also they have everything from mice to quail, guinea pigs too. Takes a while for them to ship but they are big for ur buck, and are freshly harvested and individually frozen which is why it takes a lil bit to get them. No big pinkie "snow balls." Plus Casey is real professional and nice.
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rcpreis3 said:
It would be nice. But id need alot more of a variety of species before I get to rodent pros standards, I know cuz I buy from them! :D

I have it in the works, I just need a spot to breed and keep insect feeders for them. My mom said some interesting words when I brought the idea up to her. lol
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from raising and breeding large exotic felines for over a decade, I can promise you that freezing does NOT kill the little critters inside. My federal inspector, who is also a vet and my vets, both farm and exotic have also said as much. The parasite goes into staysis, then when thawed the life cycle continues.
 
It really depends on what type is diagnosed.

Understand Reptile Parasites Dr. Klingenberg
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Pinworms are very common, especially in lizards and turtles. These parasites have a direct life cycle and are acquired by exposure to fecally contaminated food and water.

Pinworms usually live in the lower GI tract and cause little overt disease. Obstruction and impactions have been reported in iguanas and tortoises.

Diagnosis is based on finding eggs on fecal flotation. Treatment consists of giving Panacur orally, at a dose of 25-50 mg/kg, once a week until negative stools are obtained. [usually about 2-3 weeks IME]

Mouse pinworms are often seen in stools of rodent-eating reptiles. These eggs came from the ingested rodent and the eggs are passed through the GI tract. Mouse pinworms do not cause disease in reptiles.
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I dont know where u got lizards from rats, but ok. Ive never taken a wild caught animal and fed it to anything in my collection. That was just a idea I had because Ive noticed alot of people with colubrids that wouldnt eat rodents and had quite the abundance of anoles in my yard. I myself dont even keep colubrids. And I cant picture feeding a 4 inch anole to my 3 foot balls.

I considered that they could have come from a local guy until I realized some of my snakes who have them dont get fed the live, only the live feeders do.

And I thought I found semi local breeder but they could never pull through with an order. Id send what I want and then never get a response. Which is why I still use Rodentpro.

And yea before I havent had problems with Rodentpro. But if parasites are infact in their rats they I do know have a problem with them.
 
rcpreis3 said:
I dont know where u got lizards from rats, but ok. Ive never taken a wild caught animal and fed it to anything in my collection. That was just a idea I had because Ive noticed alot of people with colubrids that wouldnt eat rodents and had quite the abundance of anoles in my yard. I myself dont even keep colubrids. And I cant picture feeding a 4 inch anole to my 3 foot balls.

I considered that they could have come from a local guy until I realized some of my snakes who have them dont get fed the live, only the live feeders do.

And I thought I found semi local breeder but they could never pull through with an order. Id send what I want and then never get a response. Which is why I still use Rodentpro.

And yea before I havent had problems with Rodentpro. But if parasites are infact in their rats they I do know have a problem with them.
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But if parasites are infact in their rats, then I do now have a problem with them
 
rcpreis3 said:
But if parasites are infact in their rats they I do know have a problem with them.
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The problem with calling their name prior to being reasonably sure is that may cost them a LOT more than gathering samples if people choose not to purchase pending results.

I believe notifying them of your thoughts might have been a better path.
 
This thread seems so premature and disproportionate. First, you feed live to some of your animals, but assume the problems stems from RodentPro? Then, without any PROOF that they are the source of YOUR infestation, you go to this website and smear their name?
If it is such a problem, why haven't you contacted RodentPro? Or are you satisfied just to smear their name?
 
And let people risk feeding contaminated animals to their stock? I do respect u and ur opinions but can't agree with them. If this had been posted as a bad guy thread I woulda already been talking to them and if something didnt work out, they woulda known it was here by me. This was meant for people who already have rats in their freezer and to be sure they are safe.
 
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So that means that Rodentpros feeders have parasites and they are selling these animals as clean, safe feeders.
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There was no 'if' here, you stated this as a fact. If it is false, they may mention words like 'libel' to you.

It is important how you present situations.
 
kingsnake1 said:
This thread seems so premature and disproportionate. First, you feed live to some of your animals, but assume the problems stems from RodentPro? Then, without any PROOF that they are the source of YOUR infestation, you go to this website and smear their name?
If it is such a problem, why haven't you contacted RodentPro? Or are you satisfied just to smear their name?
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Why are u acting like this is a bad guy thread? And like I said before, I have snakes in my collection that eat f/t, never had a live rat from me, and still have worms. So that pretty much knocks out my live provider as a suspect. I said right in my first post that im waiting for tests and that people should be careful until I have results.

Better safe than sorry.
 
Lucille said:
There was no 'if' here, you stated this as a fact. If it is false, they may mention words like 'libel' to you.

It is important how you present situations.
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I should have wrote that differently and I do apologize. But theres isnt much else that could have got my snakes infected.
 
Doesn't matter if you feed them to the snakes. Where did you setup this wild caught lizards that were running around your yard?
Also, it all really is a mute point to you find out what type of pinworm.

Reptile, rodent, ick human... Who knows. I don't even know if for sure its pinworms to you get your results back.


But something else to consider is your snakes can have them for a very long time without showing signs. And they most certainly can climb back up the vent. You simply don't know until you get your results back.
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I dont know where u got lizards from rats, but ok. Ive never taken a wild caught animal and fed it to anything in my collection.
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Because you don't even know what type of parasite you have yet and either can be the cause.
 
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