Clark Tucker of PowerHouse Reptiles

[David Reid]

Matt, I have heard that MK presold snakes they never produced, and in order to fill those orders, bought from other breeders, and sold those snakes as their own....I mean had fake feeding and hatching cards.....

 

[reagorfu]

not everyone should be able to buy a Pied as their first Ball.

that is truly stupid.

 

[nextworld3]

well why don't people complain about that? that would make much more sense, all i kept reading in his other thread was about how he was selling his snakes at under the market prices. why do people not say that the guy sold snakes he didn't have because he is a barrel full of crazy?

I said it in my last post in this thread (post # 76)

This is what i said:
"He is STILL A POS for doing what he did (screwing his customers to get back at a few breeders) and lying about all the animals he had. He dropped prices on morphs he didn't even have in stock and then went around offering ridiculously low prices to other breeders "since the market came down" in hopes to get some and fill his orders. Ask him how many people he had to refund since he didn't have the animals to fill the orders on animals he tanked the price of. THIS IS A FACT!

Also he flat out told me he hoped to put Ian, Brian B and Ralph out of business as well as the other large breeders. He said these people had no chance to compete with him since their overhead was to much. Anyone who intentionally tries to take another persons livelihood away from them (especially when they love what they do and have done some much for this industry) is the ultimate scumbag in my book!"

Joe is a dirtbag thats all there is to it.

FACTS:
1. He INTENTIONALLY tried to put people out of bussiness.
2. He LIED about having animals in stock when he didnt even have them.
3. He advertised animals he didnt have at very very low prices just to tank the market and hurt a few key breeders. (in the process screwing new breeders - ALL OF YOU)

Also if he is such a great guy, where has he been for the last 2 years??? Why are you all just hearing about him now?

Its becuase NO ONE WOULD WORK WITH HIM! He cant breed snakes, he had Wes do it for him, he dosent even care about them. Ask Clark who breeds and takes care of them??? Why do you think Clark put it all under his company name? Becuase Joe knew this would happen.

I always love people who defend people like this, who "think" they are right...
Thinking you know, is more dangerous than not knowing...
I was in this hobby /bussiness when all this went down, how many of his defenders have any first hand knowledge of what really happened?

 

[nextworld3]

that is truly stupid.

Stop thinking you know... actually stop thinking and learn something!

 

[jasballs]

Stop thinking you know... actually stop thinking and learn something!

Quote of the Year!!! Love it Jon...

 

[reagorfu]

so Clark is not a bad guy, Joe is. Joe is a crazy that tried to bring down the BP market. bla bla bla

i still think that they( morphs ) are all over priced and it would help the hobby( herpers, not the BP morph investors ) if their prices dropped a bunch. i hope it happens too, it would get rid of a bunch of scammers and people who are in it just for the money.

now you guys and gals can be all upset about my comments, but i will have to read them tomorrow, going to go watch some TV and go to bed.

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

so you think that people who work with colubrids are just making disposable pets?

Pretty stupid thing to say to someone who works with colubrids.

i think more people would work with BPs because they could afford them, and they would work harder to selectively breed them so they would have an edge over the jobbers.

Joe Capone is a jobber.

Frankly, it doesn't seem you think to clearly and it's very obvious you are inexperienced in this hobby/business. It sounds like your more one of the whiners who is jealous you can't afford the higher dollar morphs.

 

[jasballs]

Pretty stupid thing to say to someone who works with colubrids.



Joe Capone is a jobber.

Frankly, it doesn't seem you think to clearly and it's very obvious you are inexperienced in this hobby/business. It sounds like your more one of the whiners who is jealous you can't afford the higher dollar morphs.

Ha! Douche ba... I mean Touche!! Nice post!!

 

[SPJ]

so Clark is not a bad guy, Joe is. Joe is a crazy that tried to bring down the BP market. bla bla bla

i still think that they( morphs ) are all over priced and it would help the hobby( herpers, not the BP morph investors ) if their prices dropped a bunch. i hope it happens too, it would get rid of a bunch of scammers and people who are in it just for the money.

now you guys and gals can be all upset about my comments, but i will have to read them tomorrow, going to go watch some TV and go to bed.

You really have no clue what Joe is like.
Like Jon from NWE stated previously, if you were around (like I was) when this all went down with Joe, you would not think he is all that great. Watch one of his disgusting sales pitch videos. That's enough to turn your stomach.
Clarks Geckos is being drawn into this because he chooses to associate himself with slime.
Clarks Geckos could sell pieds for $10 but the money from the sale also goes into Joeys pocket since they are partners. That is why people are upset. A lot of people do not want to support Joe and give their hard earned money to him no matter how low the price may be.

 

[jasballs]

You really have no clue what Joe is like.
Like Jon from NWE stated previously, if you were around (like I was) when this all went down with Joe, you would not think he is all that great. Watch one of his disgusting sales pitch videos. That's enough to turn your stomach.
Clarks Geckos is being drawn into this because he chooses to associate himself with slime.
Clarks Geckos could sell pieds for $10 but the money from the sale also goes into Joeys pocket since they are partners. That is why people are upset. A lot of people do not want to support Joe and give their hard earned money to him no matter how low the price may be.

Exactly Steve, I never even heard of Clark until this thread. But He (Clark) knows all about the joey.. So f them both! its all about the $ for both of those SCUMBAGS! IMVHO...

 

[Get Sum]

Clark Tucker -Good guy

John- I have heard enough of your BS on here. I'm sure you earned yourself alot of respect by calling someone a scumbag that you have never previously heard about or personally know. I am sure people are just waiting to buy stuff from people like you that talk BS about everyone else. An example of high standards and moral-NOT. The fact of the matter is the Clark Tucker truly is a good guy who takes pride in what he does and produces exceptional looking animals. This thread originally started about Clark Tucker, not his partner Joe whom I have honestly never met or spoken to. I would consider clark as my friend he has taught me alot about BP and about the industry. He is honest, fair and successful at what he does. Its a shame that so many of you can talk such trash about things you have heard about in the past. Clark is trying to make things right, that is what is important. Regarding myself, i don't plan on making a profit on what I will ultimatly produce. I am in this hobby with my 9-year old son to get enjoyment out of producing some cool looking animals. I'm not concerned if people will buy my animals because of who I purchased them from. I will trade off my unwanted clutch mates to the local Pet Stores for Rats and supplies and let them try to make the profit. Clark is in the business of making a profit, It is his job that he does very well. Clark may be slightly under priced then what most of you reading this would expect to get for a similar animal, but atleast he is selling his animals in a bad economy which makes him successful. All good things in life eventually come to an end. morphs are similar to the stock market, a risky investment (If ones sole intention is to make a profit) that is not the case for all of us out here. You all need to stop bashing people that are doing a good job at what they do. I would like to see Clark suceed because I think he truly cares about his animals and loves what he does. I personally would not buy anything from people that talk BS about others, how would I trust them in their childish ways. You all have stated: Why doesn't clark defend himself; probably because he has higher standards then stuping down to your levels.

 

[nextworld3]

Let me ask his defense team (and people buying from him) a stupid question...

If Joe was such a great guy and keep his buss and reputation in top shape, WHY ARE SO MANY PEOPLE POSTING NEGATIVE in this thread? Do you think everyone here that was in the bussiness before you is wrong? We are only trying to help YOU. Why did he disappear for 2 YEARS?

Seriously, i am only trying to help YOU not get burned in the future! Buy from Joe and Clark (i have said before Clark is a nice guy, but when you play with poo you get dirty) if you like, but if you post on here about how bad it turned out down the road...

 

[jo49er]

Why not gravitate and take a look at the thread titled "The truths about Powerhouse Reptiles" and leave your opinions there as well....some people can surely be turned.....when bribed with the right things....

 

[Seamus Haley]

Cockroaches, West Nile Carrying Mosquitos, Joe Capone and Tim Rainwater... just can't step on any of them hard enough to get rid of them permanantly.

My retrospective view of Capone is a bit different than some of what's been presented here but it's mostly because I don't credit him with the intelligence and forethought to manipulate things deliberately the way others do... I see him more as a petulant gasbag who started hollering a lot of hollow self absorbed rhetoric when things turned poorly for him. That said, Bond villain or not, he's a giant steaming pile that has left the fetid patina of a tarnished reputation on everything that has been associated with it on a professional level. Given the public nature of his history, a conscious decision to alliagn themselves with him, to accept his money and breed his stock... It's well past the point of scumbaggery.

 

[RichsBallPythons]

I can't believe people are actually supporting them STILL..

Hope more people new will read the thread and links as a wake up call.

 

[RJK890]

The last post in this thread was made on 7/30/08...

Is there a reason that you felt a need to bump this thread ?
Any feedback, info, questions, or are you just out of discussion topics ?

IMO, This is the kinda' post that hurts the credibility of the BOI.

 

[RichsBallPythons]

The last post in this thread was made on 7/30/08...

Is there a reason that you felt a need to bump this thread ?
Any feedback, info, questions, or are you just out of discussion topics ?

IMO, This is the kinda' post that hurts the credibility of the BOI.

Yes, when their still in Business doing the same thing to the market they were on7/30/08, my post warrants a bump in the thread so new comers aren't misled into buying from them.

I for one will not do business with them or anyone that buys/supports them.

 

[RJK890]

I see...

What exactly are they doing to the market ?
(Is it a particular classified ad, or just a shotgun complaint ?)

Their animals seem to be priced right around, and sometimes above what I see other popular breeders listing the same animals for.
The market is hurting, but I do not think PowerHouse Reptiles is to blame.

I really don't purchase many animals anymore, but I would not hesitate to purchase an animal from them if I were in the market for one, and they had the best example of the one I were looking for.

That said, I do have several animals from PowerHouse Reptiles in my collection, and they are top notch.
I have been to Clarks place and was impressed with both the facility, and the animals in that collection.

If that puts me on anybody's "list," so be it.

 

[RichsBallPythons]

I was looking at animals listed, Asked few people if they knew of them and was told to search Morph Kings.

This thread popped up and the others linked and few more searching online, just pissed me off. They keep selling animals cheap, only hurts the people buying them when breeding cause now they will have to sell the offspring cheaper just to move them.

Obviously if you can't Sell at market price and keep dropping and dropping your bottom, something should turn on and tell you something.

The economy is bad, but dropping prices $500-$1000+ on snakes is not compensating for the economy thats just straight up, Buy from me I'm Cheaper than him.....

I never knocked the quality of the snakes, but Ethics need to come into play before quality.

 

[hhmoore]

I don't know Clark, but I really don't understand why this old thread got dragged up. While I haven't watched his ads closely, I have looked at some of them - and I don't think his current prices are market busters, by any means.
It would be one thing if you dragged this thread up from the depths because of a bad deal...but to make a fuss about it 3 yrs later, because of something that another person did in a previous venture rally seems like you are just carrying the "market crasher" torch that is so loved in some places.
Take a look around, the market sucks right now. Between the sheer number of people involved, and the volume of animals being produced, I don't know how anybody can expect any kind of stability. There have always been people willing to sell at a fraction of the advertised price...and there always will be. I get frustrated by it, too; but I don't see much sense in condemning one person for something that so many do.

Look at it this way...if somebody has some negative history, but they keep on plugging along & their track record seems to indicate positive change; at what point should people stop waving the .
Yes, Clark fell under a good deal of criticism for taking up with Joe...but I haven't seen much in the way of complaints about his animals. Is there really a reason to keep hounding him for something Joe was involved with 5 yrs ago?

I'm not even saying people need to forgive and forget - but you seem to be holding a grudge over something you didn't even know about when it happened. (The fact that you had to research Morph Kings to get yourself all worked up is a pretty good indication of that).