Info Johathon at Breeders Circle saying his Citrus Pastel WO makes our Power House WO

[rjs73]

Here are some pics of some Citrus Offspring.

 

[rjs73]

Here are some more.

 

[gsrept]

looks similar to the fader gene. very nice

 

[mountain top]

Okay I have a couple questions here have been cleared at the way have the powerhouse washout and citrus whiteout hey jonathan explain the genetics to us as you say something contrary to what even the father of the citrus whiteout says the state ferry there are genetic markers you say it's complete window maybe you should expound upon your knowledge of this to us as far as I can tell these genetic questions as to your morph have not been answered jonathan is it random jonathan or is it as amir states the father of the whiteout and that there are markers and if so what are they hey how is it that you say all genetics guaranteed but then you say you don't guarantee this I don't quite understand am I missing something I thought I read this whole thing well anyways not to be rude I just would like this old genetics in cleared up beyond the shadow of the doubt so that we all could have a complete understanding as to the identity of the citrus whiteout so that we would all know what if we see it or have bought it thanks mountain top

 

[mountain top]

I am so sorry for all the typos I meant only to ask jonathan could you please explain the genetic markers are Could you please explain this you said they are random occurrence yet amir states that there is genetic markers I'm really confused please explain again sorry for the nonsense in the earlier post I would just like to get genetic clarification on the white out thank you very much. Mountain 5op

 

[HerpVenue]

Tracking lineage?

Amir has Citrus whatever.
This power house dude got an animal from amir.
He started making whiteout animals with it.
He named it the same thing amir named his. whiteout
He decided he wanted to put his own name on it.
Now he is calling it the powerhouse whiteout.
Now he is saying the other whiteout won't make powerhouse white out, and that the other line is FAKE
All of a sudden he gets an epiphany.
The snake from amir that produces powerhouse white out is totally different genetics from amir's whiteout. (huh?)
now he changes name to washout.
Now he is ready to drop this thread because now he can say he has his own line.
What is there to track?

It is like me renaming the kahl albino boa. I can have all the Lineage in hardback print, but if I don't want you to see it because I decided to rename it after myself...................

at least that is what I get from his posts. if he lost something in the translation, it isn't my fault.

A het clown is a het clown no matter what "lineage" it is from.
My mojave, I am sure has a lineage that goes back to the first person to produce mojaves, so does my pied, albino, lesser, het reds...etc etc etc

I do not have an aquarium with heat rocks. I have more than two animals. I have a family. I have a full time job plus another that I am on call for. I also go to school full time. Animal lineage? They start with me. I do not need some big breeders name to tie my animals to (no offense). If my animal's morph has a name, it will be whatever the originators decided it was. Unless of course I actually come up with a new line that NO ONE else can claim.

 

[BreedersCircle]

I will be posting more information on the genetics and markers of the citrus whiteouts on the discussion forum. This is no longer the place for this posting.
I will not be posting anything else in this thread as we have come to a resolve.

Anyone with any questions that extend further than what I will be posting in the discussion forum is free to contact me at [email protected]

thanks
Jonathan
Breeders Circle

 

[mountain top]

Tracking lineage?

Amir has Citrus whatever.
This power house dude got an animal from amir.
He started making whiteout animals with it.
He named it the same thing amir named his. whiteout
He decided he wanted to put his own name on it.
Now he is calling it the powerhouse whiteout.
Now he is saying the other whiteout won't make powerhouse white out, and that the other line is FAKE
All of a sudden he gets an epiphany.
The snake from amir that produces powerhouse white out is totally different genetics from amir's whiteout. (huh?)
now he changes name to washout.
Now he is ready to drop this thread because now he can say he has his own line.
What is there to track?

It is like me renaming the kahl albino boa. I can have all the Lineage in hardback print, but if I don't want you to see it because I decided to rename it after myself...................

at least that is what I get from his posts. if he lost something in the translation, it isn't my fault.

A het clown is a het clown no matter what "lineage" it is from.
My mojave, I am sure has a lineage that goes back to the first person to produce mojaves, so does my pied, albino, lesser, het reds...etc etc etc

I do not have an aquarium with heat rocks. I have more than two animals. I have a family. I have a full time job plus another that I am on call for. I also go to school full time. Animal lineage? They start with me. I do not need some big breeders name to tie my animals to (no offense). If my animal's morph has a name, it will be whatever the originators decided it was. Unless of course I actually come up with a new line that NO ONE else can claim.

In the first place bud Powerhouse Received the animal from amir yes but amir receive the animal from another party he did not produce the animal. So in other words what is thehelper reason for you're long post was it just a chastise me for asking a question it was obviously okay because jonathan said he would answer my questions in an appropriate place. to the other person no hard feelings I just don't understand why you felt the need to chastise me w/ so many words especially when all I was seeking was just more clarification on the genetics of the whiteout. have a good evening. Mountain

 

[FosterHerpetological]

In the first place bud Powerhouse Received the animal from amir yes but amir receive the animal from another party he did not produce the animal. So in other words what is thehelper reason for you're long post was it just a chastise me for asking a question it was obviously okay because jonathan said he would answer my questions in an appropriate place. to the other person no hard feelings I just don't understand why you felt the need to chastise me w/ so many words especially when all I was seeking was just more clarification on the genetics of the whiteout. have a good evening. Mountain

You just joined this month, and are all over John's jock? Hummmm....weird....

 

[ActionReptiles]

You just joined this month, and are all over John's jock? Hummmm....weird....

Month... pretty sure he just joined today, and I also found this to be weird...

 

[HerpVenue]

In the first place bud Powerhouse Received the animal from amir yes but amir receive the animal from another party he did not produce the animal. So in other words what is thehelper reason for you're long post was it just a chastise me for asking a question it was obviously okay because jonathan said he would answer my questions in an appropriate place. to the other person no hard feelings I just don't understand why you felt the need to chastise me w/ so many words especially when all I was seeking was just more clarification on the genetics of the whiteout. have a good evening. Mountain

Well I was not addressing you. I could not understand your posts because you said you had a couple questions but yet I did not see a single question mark. So "bud", I did not even read your post. I was referring to the other people who say we should track lineage of ALL our animals. They were the people I was responding to. They are too busy worried about attaching big breeder names to their animals.

The only reason I am responding to you now is because I finally see some punctuation and I can finally understand SOME of what you posted.

No offense dude. Just sayin.

 

[mountain top]

You just joined this month, and are all over John's jock? Hummmm....weird....

Mmm I think considering I just figured out what s f means in s f constrictors i don't think I should say it considering it would get me banned first of all I'm friends with most of the people on this place without ever you having known me like a outback reptiles ozzy boyds tom barnhart freedom breeder powerhouse reptiles tropical hut I could go on but I don't really feel the need to explain myself to you all I'm saying years another hater jumping on the bandwagon who had nothing to do in this whatsoever all I ask for was genetic clarification on the white out as I felt the washout had been explained enough for my satisfaction but if a citrus whiteout has genetic markers then it means not every citrus is a white out and therefore they can be easily differentiated between in a clutch jonathan would just take the time to go ahead and explain it here and just say it has markers or it doesn't have markers as I kinda might maybe even wanna buy a sitter slide out from amir but I'd sure like to know what the markers are before I would buy something every washout I've seen it seems to stand out look at the world of ball pythons photos that is more than extreme calicos and before you call somebody out maybe you should know who they are I don't really care but anyways dude the spout off to someone else I'm not interested listening to your big mouth just like I said I was only looking for clarification of the genetic morph so that I can figure out whether it something the buy or hide from. next time but outI'm done with this conversation will be signing out now have fun troll and the jonathan before this thing gets even messier just answer the question brother nothing is stopping you whether you did it here somewhere else the question needs to be answered yet might as well do it here as this is already been made a huge mess in this thread yamatos will make the last post the clarification right here jon.

 

[holtzinger76]

Not sure if it's the same guy or not but yeah to just join today and throw out all kinds of info. Also the guy that joined today posted all kinds of awesome "whiteout" pics and starts a defense party. This was getting deep and smelling a little of cod!!

 

[mountain top]

You just joined this month, and are all over John's jock? Hummmm....weird....

Mmm I think considering I just figured out what s f means in s f constrictors i don't think I should say it considering it would get me banned first of all I'm friends with most of the people on this place without ever you having known me like a outback reptiles ozzy boyds tom barnhart freedom breeder powerhouse reptiles tropical hut I could go on but I don't really feel the need to explain myself to you all I'm saying years another hater jumping on the bandwagon who had nothing to do in this whatsoever all I ask for was genetic clarification on the white out as I felt the washout had been explained enough for my satisfaction but if a citrus whiteout has genetic markers then it means not every citrus is a white out and therefore they can be easily differentiated between in a clutch jonathan would just take the time to go ahead and explain it here and just say it has markers or it doesn't have markers as I kinda might maybe even wanna buy from amir but I'd sure like to know what the markers are before I would buy something every washout I've seen it seems to stand out look at the world of ball pythons photos that is more than extreme calicos and before you call somebody out maybe you should know who they are I don't really care but anyways dude spout off to someone else I'm not interested listening to your big mouth just like I said I was only looking for clarification of the genetic morph so that I can figure out whether it something the buy or hide from. next time but outI'm done with this conversation will be signing out now have fun troll and the jonathan before this thing gets even messier just answer the question brother nothing is stopping you whether you did it here somewhere else the question needs to be answered yet might as well do it here as this is already been made a huge mess in this thread yamatos will make the last post the clarification right here jon.

 

[JudyC]

Mmm I think considering I just figured out what s f means in s f constrictors i don't think I should say it considering it would get me banned first of all I'm friends with most of the people on this place without ever you having known me like a outback reptiles ozzy boyds tom barnhart freedom breeder powerhouse reptiles tropical hut I could go on but I don't really feel the need to explain myself to you all I'm saying years another hater jumping on the bandwagon who had nothing to do in this whatsoever all I ask for was genetic clarification on the white out as I felt the washout had been explained enough for my satisfaction but if a citrus whiteout has genetic markers then it means not every citrus is a white out and therefore they can be easily differentiated between in a clutch jonathan would just take the time to go ahead and explain it here and just say it has markers or it doesn't have markers as I kinda might maybe even wanna buy from amir but I'd sure like to know what the markers are before I would buy something every washout I've seen it seems to stand out look at the world of ball pythons photos that is more than extreme calicos and before you call somebody out maybe you should know who they are I don't really care but anyways dude spout off to someone else I'm not interested listening to your big mouth just like I said I was only looking for clarification of the genetic morph so that I can figure out whether it something the buy or hide from. next time but outI'm done with this conversation will be signing out now have fun troll and the jonathan before this thing gets even messier just answer the question brother nothing is stopping you whether you did it here somewhere else the question needs to be answered yet might as well do it here as this is already been made a huge mess in this thread yamatos will make the last post the clarification right here jon.

Dude...PUNCTUATION is your friend! And his sexy girlfriend is PROOFREADING. Get to know them and treat them well, and they'll very likely treat you well, too.

You may have the most profound thing to say that would set all the records straight and convince everyone that Joe Capone is the saint of all ball python dealers.....but if we can't understand a word you say, it doesn't help your friends very much, does it? If anything, it makes them look like idiots by association, if nothing else.

 

[mountain top]

sorry bout that man thought you were referring to me. yes you do know a question is though bro it didn't require a punctuation mark for you to understand what I meant. I'm sorry for the double post have no clue why It did the double posting it just did anyways guys. we know what question was, so jon clarify the whole thing just get it done!

 

[radera5]

Dude...PUNCTUATION is your friend! And his sexy girlfriend is PROOFREADING. Get to know them and treat them well, and they'll very likely treat you well, too.

You may have the most profound thing to say that would set all the records straight and convince everyone that Joe Capone is the saint of all ball python dealers.....but if we can't understand a word you say, it doesn't help your friends very much, does it? If anything, it makes them look like idiots by association, if nothing else.

I could say the same thing about someone who can't understand what was written. Don't get me wrong, it is easier to understand what people are saying with correct punctuation BUT I could understand what he was saying just fine

I am also curious about the markers. It appears I might just have to email John for that though.

 

[Bobby Douglass]

Dude...PUNCTUATION is your friend! And his sexy girlfriend is PROOFREADING. Get to know them and treat them well, and they'll very likely treat you well, too.

You may have the most profound thing to say that would set all the records straight and convince everyone that Joe Capone is the saint of all ball python dealers.....but if we can't understand a word you say, it doesn't help your friends very much, does it? If anything, it makes them look like idiots by association, if nothing else.

Well said. I tried to read his post but quit after the 2nd line because I couldn't understand it. You don't have to use fancy words but at least try to make it easy to read.

 

[mountain top]

Dude...PUNCTUATION is your friend! And his sexy girlfriend is PROOFREADING. Get to know them and treat them well, and they'll very likely treat you well, too.

You may have the most profound thing to say that would set all the records straight and convince everyone that Joe Capone is the saint of all ball python dealers.....but if we can't understand a word you say, it doesn't help your friends very much, does it? If anything, it makes them look like idiots by association, if nothing else.

You have a dry wit madam. and I never stated the joe capone is a saint I just stated I bought a snake from phr. I bought many snakes for many people but I know 1 thing for certain I'd never by a snake from you judy you're a little too full of yourself for my taste. punctuation isn't everything loyalty, truth and integrity are though, but not punctuation. 1 thing's for certain I'm never coming back to the site again ya'll are some pretty full yourself people. so long faunaclassifieds.

 

[radera5]

You have a dry wit madam. and I never stated the joe capone is a saint I just stated I bought a snake from phr. I bought many snakes for many people but I know 1 thing for certain I'd never by a snake from you judy you're a little too full of yourself for my taste. punctuation isn't everything loyalty, truth and integrity are though, but not punctuation. 1 thing's for certain I'm never coming back to the site again ya'll are some pretty full yourself people. so long faunaclassifieds.

Now this was a bit pointless.
See ya later then...