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[Shaun33]

SInce he claims to be Ballbids spokeperson, Ballbids will be held accountable for his actions. All I will say about that.

QUOTE=lonewolfrider;1507704]Sure you do Lucille, you have fostered lies and hate in this thread since shortly after you opened it. You position is well known by any readers. If there has even ever been a valid concern in this thread I have not seen it. Ballbids stands on its own with its own customer base who enjoy the business model and opportunity Ballbids offers. Most are from within the community. One would think that all of the alleged quality breeders the members say are in here would want to sell their snakes. This entire thread makes no business sense for any breeder needing to sell inventory so I find it unlikely that there are many like your thread would want people to think. Heck, there aren't even very many of you coming out to bash. It is all the same few names. And all of this could have been avoided if a member did not post an external link to some alleged criminal and insinuate that that person had a connection to me or Marty. I got my issue resolved with him last night. But it looks like the hatred is so bad that Marty has not gotten his issue resolved so I see he is handling his issues the way he see fits. Marty does not answer to Ballbids. He is his own man and deals with his problems the way he sees fit. I can say this about Marty, he is a very good programmer and has significant knowledge and he is a good guy. Like most people though, I would assume that he would not exhibit that part while he deals with this lying BS that has been posted in this thread about him.[/QUOTE]

 

[Lucille]

I am not putting the hush on anyone, nor telling anyone what to do, merely respectfully stating my opinion here.
After Rich's post asking for an adult discussion, it is my opinion that Mark is goading each of us, one at a time, by name, away from that requested behavior and back into the shameful melee of yesterday.
It is my opinion that he would love to be banned and martyred so he can cry about it elsewhere.

I'm not taking his bait.

 

[Gloryhound]

Sorry but you must have missed the Ballbids Live Arrival Guarantee clearly indicated in the Terms and Conditions. That guarantee has always been there. The Breeders ship directly to the winners so there is no difference than buying directly from the Breeder except Ballbids furthers that guarantee to ensure if there were ever a problem with a Breeder, Ballbids still stands behind the consumer. Buying the way you see fit is certainly fine but posting the correct information should be important.

So what do they get if a dead snake shows up? Their last penny bid back?

Honestly the whole penny auction idea is a scam. You pay 50 cents for a 1 cent bid. So 500 pennies X 50 pennies = 25000 Pennies or $250.00 dollars total. They say it sold for only $5.00 when in reality they pocketed $250.00 on the sale. To me that is false advertising in and of its self. I also think anyone trying to pull this over on their customers will more than likely try and pull false bids and winners over on their customers.

I have witnessed early Lying from at least some of the ballbids staff in their false claims about what animals had sold for when they had not done a single auction. Once a company proves it is willing to scam people why would anyone consider doing business with them? They scam people once they will more than likely scam people again.

They are free to send me as many cease and desist letters as they want. Until I get one from a judge I will continue to believe and let others know my opinion on Ball Bids is they are a group of scam artists.

 

[lonewolfrider]

Seriously? Are you really that daft? He said no such thing so how could he retract it? Go find that post or just shut up. Your ignorant and twisted ramblings are getting very old.

Apparently you are too lazy to look yourself, it has been posted twice. And I have nothing to say to you.

 

[Shaun33]

I love how he ignores me. I NEVER RETRACTED ANYTHING CAUSE I NEVER SAID YOU WAS CONNECTED TO TONI. But I think you have a guilty conscience and took that I did say that.

Apparently you are too lazy to look yourself, it has been posted twice. And I have nothing to say to you.

 

[lonewolfrider]

I am not putting the hush on anyone, nor telling anyone what to do, merely respectfully stating my opinion here.
After Rich's post asking for an adult discussion, it is my opinion that Mark is goading each of us, one at a time, by name, away from that requested behavior and back into the shameful melee of yesterday.
It is my opinion that he would love to be banned and martyred so he can cry about it elsewhere.

I'm not taking his bait.

Not even close. I above anyone in on this thread would like to see and actually have an adult discussion. It has never been done here yet! Although I have tried before.

 

[Fangthane]

Also, we keep all of our snakes in a melamine rack system we built here at out facility. We've got a sub-adult rack and a hatchling rack at the moment, fully equipped with thermostats, heat tape, hide boxes, water bowls, etc. Once we are done building the rest of our racks we will have enough room to house 105 snakes, for the time being.

Sorry but you must have missed the Ballbids Live Arrival Guarantee clearly indicated in the Terms and Conditions. That guarantee has always been there. The Breeders ship directly to the winners so there is no difference than buying directly from the Breeder except Ballbids furthers that guarantee to ensure if there were ever a problem with a Breeder, Ballbids still stands behind the consumer. Buying the way you see fit is certainly fine but posting the correct information should be important.

You guys really should try to keep your stories straight. First you have them at your facility, now you use drop-shipping. Flip-flop. Also, if Marty's the one doing your coding, based on his middle-school writing abilities, it's no surprise BallBS has so many "oopsie" moments. I suppose it's smart to surround yourself with ineptitude, for the sake of plausible deniability.

 

[lonewolfrider]

P#894

Originally Posted by Shaun33
Funny again, Mark that I didn't say you had connections to a alleged criminal. Please post where I said you were other then that Toni lives in your area and that is the truth. Look on facebook. Davies, FL. Is that a lie? I never claim you were associated with Toni Mark so give it up already.

I will accept that as your retraction of the written words you posted since you have stated " Mark that I didn't say you had connections to a alleged criminal." I recommend that you carefully choose your words in the future since the wordings on your post do insinuate a connection. I would prefer that you not use my name in any future postings especially since we have no reason for correspondence between us. You should take note that I have not utilized your name once since the Attorney issued the letter.

 

[wyldwurm]

Well it seems that our noble Mr. Byers was injured in the call of duty when he was a officer. He hurt his widdle pinky The link he posted earlier included the heroic deed of saving a woman's life.

Instead of being glad he saved the life of someone, what does our noble Mr Byers do?

HE SUES HER!! I have a few choice words for people like you Mark, but I am too much of a lady to speak like that. Disgusting!

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1996-03-29/news/9603280697_1_byers-police-officers-cops

Byers was honored after he smashed through a sliding glass door and saved the life of a woman being threatened at gunpoint by her estranged husband. For his efforts, Byers got himself a severely injured pinky. He has had multiple surgeries, and can no longer fire a gun. He has been reassigned to a desk job.

"Police work is a tough job," Byers said nobly when he got the award last year.

"Sometimes these things happen. ... I'm just glad I had the opportunity to save this lady."

A few months later, Byers doesn't sound quite as glad. Or quite as noble.

He has an attorney. He has filed a lawsuit against the woman he saved, Jane Liberatore. And he has added a lot of chutzpah.

Silly me. I always thought police officers were aware that risk was part of their job.

This is why we have cops

Liberatore is being sued, we were told this week by Charles Morehead, Byers' attorney, in part because she "set up the incendiary situation" in which her boyfriend was shot to death and Byers severely cut his hand while trying to save her.

Liberatore's boyfriend, Harry Schwartz, was shot by her husband, Anthony Liberatore.

And now Byers' attorney says, "when you cheat on your husband and create the potential for murder or aggravated assault and a police officer is injured as a result, you make your own bed and you have to sleep in it."

Naive, silly me. Again.

I always thought we needed cops because we have so many screwed-up family situations.

I always thought cops were there for our protection without questioning our moral character.

I always thought we paid taxes for cops to be there.

But obviously, this is the wrong attitude.

No longer can we have such a thing as a simple injury in the line of duty. Not when we can claim "pain and suffering."Not when we can have an attorney pompously pontificating about infidelity.

The only one not pontificating is Sunrise Mayor Steve Effman. He gave me a "no comment while there's pending litigation" when asked about a police officer suing a citizen he's sworn to protect.

Benefits warranted, but . . .

Interestingly, this all comes at a time when officers are fighting - statewide and nationwide - to get health insurance benefits if they are disabled in the line of duty.

That fight started when two Plantation police officers were severely injured in an explosion last year, and could have been left without benefits for their families.

 

[laterob]

Mark, that last post doesn't show anything. Where does he make the insinuation/accusation? That's what people are asking for.

Also, do you guys own www.ballbid.com, too? I only ask because that is how, in one instance, you Attorney refers to your business.

 

[KORBIN5895]

Apparently you are too lazy to look yourself, it has been posted twice. And I have nothing to say to you.

So since I caught you in a lie you want to call me lazy?

I love how he ignores me. I NEVER RETRACTED ANYTHING CAUSE I NEVER SAID YOU WAS CONNECTED TO TONI. But I think you have a guilty conscience and took that I did say that.

P#894

Originally Posted by Shaun33
Funny again, Mark that I didn't say you had connections to a alleged criminal. Please post where I said you were other then that Toni lives in your area and that is the truth. Look on facebook. Davies, FL. Is that a lie? I never claim you were associated with Toni Mark so give it up already.

So now that you showed a post that supposedly supports your lie please show where he called you Toni. Let's see you twist this one...

 

[Fangthane]

I guess the apple doesn't roll too far from the sewer...or however that old saying goes. Shady get-rich-quick schemes must be part of the Byers' family creed.

 

[lonewolfrider]

I am not putting the hush on anyone, nor telling anyone what to do, merely respectfully stating my opinion here.
After Rich's post asking for an adult discussion, it is my opinion that Mark is goading each of us, one at a time, by name, away from that requested behavior and back into the shameful melee of yesterday.
It is my opinion that he would love to be banned and martyred so he can cry about it elsewhere.

I'm not taking his bait.

Not even close. I above anyone in on this thread would like to see and actually have an adult discussion. It has never been done here yet! Although I have tried before. I guess I am right since there have been no offers for a real actual dialog without the scathing remarks or slide comments.

 

[laterob]

What are you right about, Mark?

Please, simply refer us to a post where Shaun said what you have been accusing him of saying.

 

[lonewolfrider]

So since I caught you in a lie you want to call me lazy?





So now that you showed a post that supposedly supports your lie please show where he called you Toni. Let's see you twist this one...

You can go find that one Kevin. It is there and that situation is resolved as far as I am concerned. I can see that you would prefer it not to be resolved though. That would not serve you deceitful purposes on this thread,

 

[bloodybaroness]

You two clowns have done more damage to BallBids than any one in this thread combined.

With promoters like you two, who needs enemies or detractors?

 

[Shaun33]

He can't cause I never said he was connected other then just location.

You can go find that one Kevin. It is there and that situation is resolved as far as I am concerned. I can see that you would prefer it not to be resolved though. That would not serve you deceitful purposes on this thread,

 

[theadjustor514]

Hello fauna people. While I have had my account here for some time, this is actually my first time posting. I would just like to say a few things after reading this entire thread.

It is obvious to me that ballbids.com has zero support from ANY reputable person or entity in the reptile community. The fact that they still have hundreds or thousands of members using their companies services frankly does not surprise me. What surprises me is that they claim their members are bonefied members of the community. It is my opinion that most if not all of their member base is completely new to the reptile world and the BP industry- people who are familiar with the penny auction fad and are now seeing a cool new way to capitalize on it. NOBODY who has been a part of this community for more than a handful of days would touch this company with a ten foot stick based on how unprofessional they have behaved through this whole ordeal, and the complete lack of knowledge they have on the animals they peddle. Ballbids.com was obviously started as a get rich quick scheme by people who don't give a hoot about the animals we helpers love and admire. Anybody disagree with that? Let us not forget the Facebook screenshot posted on page 22 which showed how Avi and Zach felt about the new business. How they were going to make so much money and be big shots rolling in dough. That to me speaks volumes about the intentions of this business, which IMO has NOTHING to do with ball pythons and EVERYTHING to do with Dollar signs. Everyone knows that type of business does nothing but hurt our community as a whole. We have seen it time and time again.

It was clear to me several hundred posts ago that Mark, Marty and Zach are immature and dishonest, and that opinion has only grown stronger as this thread gets longer. They will not see a dime from me nor, I suspect, from anyone else who knows a thing about reptiles. I am sure they will continue to gain customers, but from the penny auction "community" not the reptile community. I'm sure the majority of their user base has no idea this site, or the BOI even exists.

I guess that's about all I have to say.
Thank you for reading my post.

 

[laterob]

Okay, Mark. If that issue is resolved, what remaining issues are there?

 

[lonewolfrider]

Well it seems that our noble Mr. Byers was injured in the call of duty when he was a officer. He hurt his widdle pinky The link he posted earlier included the heroic deed of saving a woman's life.

Instead of being glad he saved the life of someone, what does our noble Mr Byers do?

HE SUES HER!! I have a few choice words for people like you Mark, but I am too much of a lady to speak like that. Disgusting!

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1996-03-29/news/9603280697_1_byers-police-officers-cops

Byers was honored after he smashed through a sliding glass door and saved the life of a woman being threatened at gunpoint by her estranged husband. For his efforts, Byers got himself a severely injured pinky. He has had multiple surgeries, and can no longer fire a gun. He has been reassigned to a desk job.

"Police work is a tough job," Byers said nobly when he got the award last year.

"Sometimes these things happen. ... I'm just glad I had the opportunity to save this lady."

A few months later, Byers doesn't sound quite as glad. Or quite as noble.

He has an attorney. He has filed a lawsuit against the woman he saved, Jane Liberatore. And he has added a lot of chutzpah.

Silly me. I always thought police officers were aware that risk was part of their job.

This is why we have cops

Liberatore is being sued, we were told this week by Charles Morehead, Byers' attorney, in part because she "set up the incendiary situation" in which her boyfriend was shot to death and Byers severely cut his hand while trying to save her.

Liberatore's boyfriend, Harry Schwartz, was shot by her husband, Anthony Liberatore.

And now Byers' attorney says, "when you cheat on your husband and create the potential for murder or aggravated assault and a police officer is injured as a result, you make your own bed and you have to sleep in it."

Naive, silly me. Again.

I always thought we needed cops because we have so many screwed-up family situations.

I always thought cops were there for our protection without questioning our moral character.

I always thought we paid taxes for cops to be there.

But obviously, this is the wrong attitude.

No longer can we have such a thing as a simple injury in the line of duty. Not when we can claim "pain and suffering."Not when we can have an attorney pompously pontificating about infidelity.

The only one not pontificating is Sunrise Mayor Steve Effman. He gave me a "no comment while there's pending litigation" when asked about a police officer suing a citizen he's sworn to protect.

Benefits warranted, but . . .

Interestingly, this all comes at a time when officers are fighting - statewide and nationwide - to get health insurance benefits if they are disabled in the line of duty.

That fight started when two Plantation police officers were severely injured in an explosion last year, and could have been left without benefits for their families.

Well Robillard, your getting close to finding all the correct information. Keep working on it! You will get there. The substance is within you grasp already..