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An Awful Adoption Experience

I'm sorry I don't mean to sound like I disagree with everything a rescue does to ensure the safety of their pets, I just want to make clear that even though some people although can be inconsistent with some standards, doesn't mean they are bad pet owners. I feel everyone should be treated as human and make judgements on potential adopters by getting to know people and learning what they're truly like rather than having them "pass" a written exam. I feel sorry for the dogs and cats who need homes and rescue making it so hard for them
 
I don't get involved with rescues if I have issues with their application or policies. I'm an intelligent adult, and perfectly capable of making that decision for myself...I did it long ago, in fact.
It's great that you can see the good, despite the often self defeating approaches; and I can freely admit that not all rescues are as bad as the examples we are discussing (but it really does seem that this is becoming more the norm than the exception). It is unlikely that I will ever complete a rescue's application again - I'm quite happy getting my dogs from shelters, and I'm not opposed to buying from a breeder if I want a "purebred".
 
Also, when was BB recalled for Salmonella? The only recall I know of was the voluntary one for excessive Vitamin D. I know Diamond Brand and the companies affiliated had a mass recall for Salmonella.
 
SilverRaichu said:
Still.. there's usually always someone who will criticize your answer. Even some of the "best pet owners will offer something from the table at least once. I throw my conure a few chips here and there.. my co-worker's birds (2 cockatiels and a senegal) gets everything from chicken to pasta to sugary candy, and she says it all the time a rescue would never adopt a bird to her but she says its all in moderation and the vet agrees her birds are in perfect health don't fix what isn't broken. You can't penalize someone for not being perfect pet owners, doesn't mean we're bad pet owners either. And it certainly doesn't mean we're unfit to have pets at all.
Most of the people I know who do stuff like that are some of the 'best' people I know. They know their pets, the're consistent with their health and needs and will be the first to tell what their pet can and can't eat.

And unless your feeding timothy hay treats, you'd be surprised how many small animal treats and bird treats ingredients are the same
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Well you know that some rescues dont deny you completely if you only send in one application? If your denied, some rescues discuss what they find wrong with your application and hopefully the both of you can fix it. I agree that giving bad treats to your pets every once in a while isnt going to kill them, but somebody who has experience with the species and is interested in adopting the animal wont put that on an application to adopt an animal! Again, there is no way the rescue will find a perfect match for their animals, but it doesnt hurt to try! I dont understand why people fight with rescues think its their god given right to adopt an animal because its not, some people are not meant to own animals, and the horror stories (and experiences) ive encountered only prove this. We are all in the same boat here, we are all trying to find good homes for pets both adopters and rescuers. I am aware of the ingredients found in small animal treats and bird treats btw, and personally ive never felt the impulse to feed that to my personal birds because i dont agree with that dietary choice for my animals (and my vet doesnt either :) ).
 
SilverRaichu said:
Blue Buffalo's meats are no longer imported and are made in the US, I know about Blue's recall and FYI, more holistic foods have been recalled then most other foods, every year Wellness gets recalled at least once. And holistic treats as well, canyon creek's rawhides were recalled due to dogs getting sick because the meats were imported but what people don't realize that not all the dogs were sick because of the imported meat, they were getting sick because people were feeding them as staple diets which isn't good because its just meat nothing else. Dogs can't live just on meat it lacks nutrition found in other ingredients in dog food.
You can't penalize a dog food because of an incident that happened years ago, no matter what you feed there will always be a risk of any dog food becoming tainted and recalled again.
I can see the license thing for exotics, but not cats and dogs.
I believe border collies are legal everywhere. So why do they need a drivers license?

Ande the vet records, again, if someone didn't take their pet consistantly to a vet for check ups or wasn't up to date on shots, are they unsuited to adopt? Even if their dogs were treated and medicated when they were sick?
There is a vet near me who is highly rated and has been around for over 30+ years. I took my kitten to him and he said that most yearly shots aren't nessecary. And explained about the pet's immunity system and how it works and it was great to meet a vet who was truly honest rather then someone telling me to give my dog or cat a bunch of shots they probably didn't need. How would that look on my adoption application? My pets do
See a vet regularly, sometimes I have to skip yearly appointments due to a fluctuating budget, in a section I feel something is wrong with my pets they are in a vet's office immedietly, but things like don't seem to matter or not good enough to the eyes of a rescue
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I would like to find the article where you found the info on wellness, my vet carries it and swears by it so im concerned about that info, plus im in contact with wellness reps and i can find out that way too. Some dog breeds (pit bulls) are restricted in certain states and its the rescues responsibility to ensure this doesnt happen. I do not agree with what happened to you and the rescue with the border collie but these standards are set for a reason. I work a veterinarians office and yes i do believe that some vaccines are suited best for some clients only, but that doesnt mean rabies, feline/canine distemper vaccines shouldnt be!
 
ShadowAceD said:
You know what? That's the exact reason why I won't try to adopt from a rescue anymore, because their attitudes are pretty much like that.

It's not about what's best for the dog, it's about "their rules" and how YOU fit into them.

Got it.
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WHY wouldnt the rescuers rules not be whats best for the animal?? I understand some rescues have outrageous demands, but some people abide by them, THAT DOESNT MEAN YOU HAVE TO ADOPT FROM THEM, FIND ANOTHER RESCUE THAT WILL WORK FOR YOU!!!
 
It's not about what's best for the dog, it's about "their rules" and how YOU fit into them.

That statement right there is almost an oxymoron, a rescue that doesnt care about whats best for the dog, are you serious?
 
hadenglock said:
I would like to find the article where you found the info on wellness, my vet carries it and swears by it so im concerned about that info, plus im in contact with wellness reps and i can find out that way too. Some dog breeds (pit bulls) are restricted in certain states and its the rescues responsibility to ensure this doesnt happen. I do not agree with what happened to you and the rescue with the border collie but these standards are set for a reason. I work a veterinarians office and yes i do believe that some vaccines are suited best for some clients only, but that doesnt mean rabies, feline/canine distemper vaccines shouldnt be!
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how about my job, is that enough? I worked at petsmart for 2 1/2 years and in that time frame I've worked there it got recalled 3 times. A few months ago it was the one of the puppy formulas.
 
hadenglock said:
Again, there is no way the rescue will find a perfect match for their animals, but it doesnt hurt to try! I dont understand why people fight with rescues think its their god given right to adopt an animal because its not, some people are not meant to own animals, and the horror stories (and experiences) ive encountered only prove this. We are all in the same boat here, we are all trying to find good homes for pets both adopters and rescuers..
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There is no way, but they act like theyre out there. So your saying that if a dog and a person are not a 100% match for each other and thats its only 90% or 95% then NOT GOOD ENOUGH NO DOG FOR YOU! thats how it is?
So the dog has to spend half or more of its life in foster care in no one else is good enough, mr. perfect hasnt arrived yet?
people fight with rescues not because of some 'god given right' you think we think we have, but because they preach "adopt a pet!" to everyone and when we try we get shot down for stupid things.

Look at the people who have responded to my thread. Like me we've been victimized by rescue and you can clearly see we're nothing less then good pet owners. If you can justify the rescue's reasons for what they did to these people well then I think my point has been made.
 
hadenglock said:
ill trust your judgement on that, do you know if it was voluntary or not?
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the most recent one was, not sure about the other two. Apparently the factory near where they distribute had a salmonella issue and Wellness recalled to be safe but they only recalled the one formula which I believe now is back on the shelf
 
SilverRaichu said:
There is no way, but they act like theyre out there. So your saying that if a dog and a person are not a 100% match for each other and thats its only 90% or 95% then NOT GOOD ENOUGH NO DOG FOR YOU! thats how it is?
So the dog has to spend half or more of its life in foster care in no one else is good enough, mr. perfect hasnt arrived yet?
people fight with rescues not because of some 'god given right' you think we think we have, but because they preach "adopt a pet!" to everyone and when we try we get shot down for stupid things.

Look at the people who have responded to my thread. Like me we've been victimized by rescue and you can clearly see we're nothing less then good pet owners. If you can justify the rescue's reasons for what they did to these people well then I think my point has been made.
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Idk how clear i can be on this so ill say it again, I DONT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING CERTAIN RESCUES REQUIRE FOR ADOPTION, im sorry you couldnt adopt the dog you fell for, but obviously there was something on your application they didnt agree with, im only stating the facts, stop taking things so personally! Rescues exist because they have adopters and supporters, i would think if a rescue was truly just "out to get you" then they wouldnt be in business, so that means there are people out there who are approvable through there adoption process, JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDNT MEET THERE REQUIREMENTS DOESNT MEAN YOUR A BAD PET OWNER, IT ONLY MEANS YOU DIDNT MEET THEIR STANDARDS, so try a different rescue!!!! its that simple!!
 
SilverRaichu said:
the most recent one was, not sure about the other two. Apparently the factory near where they distribute had a salmonella issue and Wellness recalled to be safe but they only recalled the one formula which I believe now is back on the shelf
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yeah i just found that out, ill check in on the other recalls too then.
 
hadenglock said:
Idk how clear i can be on this so ill say it again, I DONT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING CERTAIN RESCUES REQUIRE FOR ADOPTION, im sorry you couldnt adopt the dog you fell for, but obviously there was something on your application they didnt agree with, im only stating the facts, stop taking things so personally! Rescues exist because they have adopters and supporters, i would think if a rescue was truly just "out to get you" then they wouldnt be in business, so that means there are people out there who are approvable through there adoption process, JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDNT MEET THERE REQUIREMENTS DOESNT MEAN YOUR A BAD PET OWNER, IT ONLY MEANS YOU DIDNT MEET THEIR STANDARDS, so try a different rescue!!!! its that simple!!
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No, it isnt that simple, like the rescues looking for the right matches for their dog, I am looking for the right match for me, though I feel my standards arent as high as these rescues, its not like I walked into a shelter and had a bunch of border collies to pick from.

and as for the rescue, i thought i made this clear but maybe i didnt,
i was declined me because of the distance. When I contacted them I asked them to reconsider my application. They said they were interested in adopting the dog to me then made to effort to contact me.

if you are right and there is something else wrong with my application, then an explanation would of been nice so i can fix it.
 
hadenglock said:
Idk how clear i can be on this so ill say it again, I DONT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING CERTAIN RESCUES REQUIRE FOR ADOPTION, im sorry you couldnt adopt the dog you fell for, but obviously there was something on your application they didnt agree with, im only stating the facts, stop taking things so personally! Rescues exist because they have adopters and supporters, i would think if a rescue was truly just "out to get you" then they wouldnt be in business, so that means there are people out there who are approvable through there adoption process, JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDNT MEET THERE REQUIREMENTS DOESNT MEAN YOUR A BAD PET OWNER, IT ONLY MEANS YOU DIDNT MEET THEIR STANDARDS, so try a different rescue!!!! its that simple!!
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With so many homeless dogs, rescues need to lower their standards a little because it's out of control. I mean honestly, a lot of rescues are just so elitist. I want to adopt a greyhound when I rent a place that allows dogs and I'm scared to death I'll get turned down for whatever stupid reason.

Honestly I think a lot of people who "rescue" do it because it's an ego boost, and it makes them feel good about themselves. I swear these people get on an elitist bandwagon and go on power trips together turning down great homes for not painting their house the right color.
 
ShadowAceD said:
Where do you have evidence that Blue Buffalo and Diamond Brand are the same thing? Because that's crap.
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Yeah, definitely crap. I work for a holistic pet store and talk to reps all the time.

Blue Buffalo may utilize Diamond's factories(although I doubt it, Nutrisource actually claims to produce 45% of Blue Buffalo's food), but they are not the same food or the same companny.
 
leaveittoweaver said:
Yeah, definitely crap. I work for a holistic pet store and talk to reps all the time.

Blue Buffalo may utilize Diamond's factories(although I doubt it, Nutrisource actually claims to produce 45% of Blue Buffalo's food), but they are not the same food or the same companny.
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we've had Blue Buffalo reps come to my job to speak to us and I dont recall every hearing they were being distributed by Diamond
 
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