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Bad Guy Alexander Huang is a Snake Theif!

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I wish I had more time away from the animals to sit down and detail this all out. I have little proof on paper, but plenty of people know of this deal and those listed participated in it. Colten Jones, Bobby Bruce and Kelly Mathews all in some part or whole visually watched me and or handed Alexander Huang or heard the deal between us about my snakes. The deal was for Alexander to breed for me while I was gone vending shows during 2013, and if need be, 2014 as well, and for this he would receive half of the clutches he produced using MY animals.

Yes, I know I'm an idiot for not making a contract! I don't need opinions on that. I thought Alex was the right choice and he was not.

I loaned Alexander Huang these snakes between January and April of 2013.

1.0 Adult bredli carpet python
1.0 Super pastel butter
1.0 Adult spider double het axanthic hypo AKA true ghost
0.2 Adult axanthics 66% het hypo
1.1 Juvinile 100% het desert ghosts
2.10 Adult 100% het VPI axanthic dinker group all resembling trick/hurricane/blitz animals.
0.2 Adult 100% het Sunrise ball pythons (new recessive not proven yet)
0.1 CH adult chocolate ball python.

I have sent texts to Alexander, I have called Alexander and I have Facebooked Alexander. I have asked for my animals back numerous times over the last 6 months and he will not give them to me. There are other lies, back stabbing and other animals that were taken, but the big list says it all.

In all of this, Alexander sent me 3 animals to sell that didn't fit within the projects we wanted to do: baby argentine boa, rosy boa and a licorice rat snake. These were sold to fund the purchase of a highlighter jungle male from Bryan Hummel's line (which I had in the works until I smelt fish on Alex's end) and a pair of inland carpets, neither of which got bought. So I do owe him some snakes and/or the value of those, but thats not going to happen until I have my animals back.

Alex would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for the fact that I have been working towards making a true ghost ball python for myself for FIVE YEARS and I want that project back!
 
Sorry to hear this Bri! There's some downright PRETENDERS here in Az. Thanks for posting this for me... I have him listed with the others now :)

(Let me know if there's anything I can do... You know I'm clever with getting artifacts returned quickly.)
 
I can't believe I am feeding into this non sense..
Brian gave me the Bredli at the show right after his fire happened and a few weeks later 2 normal females..
The whole "dinker" group was skinny, dehydrated, sick, and way too small to produce..
There was no chocolate, that's BS.
Anyways back to the so called dinker project... Brian had contacted Colten asking him to supply some Batryl for me to try and bring these animals back to appropriate health.
They never ate, had ridiculous looking stools and one by one they sadly passed away..
It wasn't until around the middle of the year I BELIEVE that I sent him some animals to sell for me and NEVER got a call after they where sent.
The first time I asked about them he told Kelly and I that they died even though all of my snakes where nice and healthy so I knew it was a lie following month we asked again and he told me that he had to use the money due to insufficient funds for the trips he had going on.
So after changing up stories the snakes that I had left which was the female axanthics, SPB, and a spider male I ended up keeping after collateral, it's been MONTHS and not only did he lie to me but never paid me back so I decided to keep the snakes.
Posting on Fauna isn't going to change my mind at all, in fact I know who Brian really is and I know everything that happened during this whole ordeal and when it comes down to it the honest opinion on my side is there will always be two sides to each story and no matter what happens it's not going to change so I could really care less of other peoples opinions, especially when those said people where never involved... All of this is a big clustered situation.
If you'd like to contact me for more information other than this thread here is my number 520-979-8577.
But anyways, Thanks for taking the time to read all this.
 
Alex, do you happen to have any pictures of the snakes you had received?
 
I just made this Fauna profile and I've never used this before so I'm not sure how to reply to your comment.
But anyways, Sadly I do not...
I could check my Instagram but I used to have pictures until I dropped my phone into the pool.
 
Parrot lady, I asked him if I could take these snakes to the vet and his reply was Batryl will fix all the problems and he told me it would be to expensive.
Colten Jones also told Kelly and I that the "Dinker project" was sitting in his car/camper/RV OR whatever he had at the time with no heat and obviously no food or correct caging.
Kelly and I got them in a styrofoam cooler all stacked on each other.
 
Huangalex4321 said:
The whole "dinker" group was skinny, dehydrated, sick, and way too small to produce..
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Brian said he supplied you with these snakes to breed them while he was vending shows. Why did you accept them as breeders if you are saying they were ill and too small to breed?

If you were keeping them and they were dying one by one, you should have got them to a vet no matter what anyone else was supposed to have said. For one thing, weren't you apprehensive that allegedly dying snakes might pose a risk to your own collection?

Did you freeze the snakes so you could show Brian they were dead?
 
There was only 1 male "het" desert but he never told us Desert Ghost until this thread showed up and that was a 143 gram male that he insisted on trying to breed as well with other females under 1k grams he wanted me to breed but we never did because of the snakes well being.
And it's funny because when Brian "was in the works" buying my new snakes he had no fishy feeling because he got pissed off only a few months ago when I denied his request to the snakes I own now that belonged to him in the past before.
I gave my snakes to Colten Jones to ship to Brian in the beginning of the year and waited until September if I can remember correctly for him to give my money or snakes and never did..
And again, This bad situation happened I believe 2-3 months ago so his "bad feelings" Are just to make this post more dramatic than it already is.
 
It is too bad that you didn't take at least one in to try to save the rest. We have some wonderful herp vets in Tucson. Also, it would of proven your side of the story.
 
I didn't know what these snakes looked like until Colten gave them to me and Brian told me to breed anyways.
I had no money to bring 13 or some snakes to a vet, Brian told us he would supply everything I needed and the only thing he came through on was Batryl and Feeders.

I did freeze them until we moved and my mom through them out but I sent him pictures that they where dead..

These snakes where NO WHERE NEAR my personal collection.
 
Alexander did you request to have them sent back and cancel the breeding deal?

If I had sickly or ill-looking snakes sent to me I would not make it my responsibility to aid the snakes into health for the owner before breeding. They should have come to you healthy in the first place.

Or is the return something that the owner denied?
 
Alex you kept a few snakes to make up for the snakes you sent, the dinkers died, what happened to the rest?
 
I told him they where dying and he was mad at Kelly and I, I was his friend and I agreed to help these snakes but I am not god and have no control over life.

I just received 2 pictures Kelly just sent me but don't know how to post them here.
 
Alex picked up the dinkers from me in person and was ever so excited to get those along with the super pastel butter male he fails to mention. Those dinkers were bought seven days before he got them and yes they were dehydrated and yes some had RI. YOU KNEW THIS you said you had no problem getting them HEALTHY... I told you that Colten I and Dr Funk would help with what ever you needed. I NEVER HEARD ANYTHING WAS WRONG TILL I TRIED TO GET MY SNAKES BACK. no a 143 gram het desert ghost isnt going to breed neither was his 1000 gram girl but they will this year.
 
1.0 Adult bredli carpet python (He gave to me)
1.0 Super pastel butter (I kept and traded)
1.0 Adult spider double het axanthic hypo AKA true ghost (In my possession)
0.2 Adult axanthics 66% het hypo (In my possession)
1.1 Juvinile 100% het desert ghosts (There was only one male and the boy wasn't a het desert ghost it was apparently just het desert and he died)
2.10 Adult 100% het VPI axanthic dinker group all resembling trick/hurricane/blitz animals. ( there was only one male not two and I'm positive there wasn't 10 females and those all died)
0.2 Adult 100% het Sunrise ball pythons (new recessive not proven yet) - (Died)
0.1 CH adult chocolate ball python (There was no chocolate..)
 
Brian never mentioned when he got them and he never told me the condition they where in until Kelly and I met him outside of Crutchfeilds.

That's totally BS, Every time a snake died or was getting worse Kelly and I would call or text Brian as well as with Colten but not as frequent.
 
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