Bad Guy RodentPro- Zoonotic disease warning

[laterob]

Name-calling aside, you seem to have ordered on a Friday. They would normally send out the 'second week out', as you missed the cutoff for shipment the following week. However, the 4th occurred during that week. You can find out about RP's shipping policies in their FAQs.

I assure you that your shipment had absolutely nothing to do with any rodent disease, and to hint/insinuate/suggest that it may have is, in my opinion, misguided.

 

[BulkMice.com]

I just did a quick google search on "Rodent Pro," went down three pages of links, and I found new issues beyond that which was discussed in this thread and elsewhere last year.

If you are using your so-called "quick" google search as evidence of issues that are apparently still plaguing Rodent Pro then post them here, otherwise you are blowing smoke.

If you think you're making yourself look good by making others look bad, think again. If this is how you treat your competitors, I doubt your integrity when working with customers.

Again, links or it didn't happen.

Im not singling out RP here sorry that is not my intention. Ive been in this business a long time Sir. RP (not Ron Paul) is one of many guys that "resell" they do not have their own colonies. RP is not the only ones that have experienced issues in the last year either. I am not doubting your google-fu skills sir but I did manage to find much information on who supplies what feeders to where. There are also companies that have began irradiating their mice due to salmonella outbreaks. These are issues that are continuous in this business not merely a freak chance of bad luck. There are viruses that spread from rats to mice and vice-versa and can wipe out entire colonies yet even after the virus has been eradicated the locations are compromised and usually mean a dead zone for breeding and full tear down decontamination must occur... these viruses are widespread right now and there are large colonies coming off line and making supply drop on many items nationally.

 

[BulkMice.com]

when I say "began" I really mean "have been doing for years".

 

[KORBIN5895]

Not sure where you get off calling a complete stranger a liar, or why, especially when you have nothing to gain or no reason to try to harm another person credibility. If you knew me at all, which clearly you do not, you would know that I am incapable of lying. I do not believe in it, really bad at it even for something as stupid as "yes mum that dress is flattering on you" and I would have absolutely nothing to gain by being dishonest. I admitted that i replied on an old thread prematurely (my fault for having a wee one on my chest and not able to see the whole screen, which means the date of the thread) but that neither makes me a bad person or a liar.

For whatever reason you seem to have nothing better to do on a Friday night, so I will humor your ignorance only once. Bashing me is not what this thread is about and not even remotely helpful to it. It is unwarranted, unappreciated, uncalled for and just plain rude. This was about rodent pro so this will be the last time I will respond to your misplaced hostility. To the mods, forgive me, I know this silliness is quite off topic to the thread, but I think this unwarranted attack needs to be addressed.

I placed my order late June 20, they processed it June 21st. If they had sent the order out on Monday or Tues the following week, as is their practice, I would've received the mice by the following Friday, June 28th. Order was delayed because of the holiday and was not shipped out till July 9th, received July 11th. Assuming you were taught the days of the week in grammar school, take a calendar out and you will see that my order was delayed and shipped 2 weeks after it normally would've been. Just as I had said. How you see that as a lie or that I should've said four weeks is ridiculous.



I could be wrong, guessing you meant thinking (maybe next time if you're going to insult someone and try to be clever, maybe check your spelling first.)
Maybe you should also take a little of your own advice. Glad I could clear that up for ya, have a good one.

Thank you so much for posting all of that. Let's explain how this works. Your order was processed on Friday the 21st which means your order wouldn't be ready to be shipped Monday 24th because order have to be processed by Thursday for Monday shipping. So that put your order to be shipped on July 1st which was a viable shipping day because of the July 4th holiday. That means the next available shipping date was July 8th which is when they shipped.

Now in your ignorance you made it sound like they were delaying your shipment because something was wrong when I reality it just comes down to you not getting your order in on time.

Again line up your facts before you make accusations.

 

[j_dunlavy]

Jon I did see that there would be a delay in shipping. Wasn't a problem for me to wait or i would've gotten mice at the reptile show.

As I said above just freaked me out seeing that as I have never come across this thread. Have never had a problem with the product or customer service, thank goodness, so guess i never thought to look them up on here. I got all my mice locally before so hadn't started using them till after all that I guess. Would've missed the things on KS too because I didn't really frequent here or there until later last year.

I must have misunderstood what you meant.
It is in fact a freaky thing to see that a supplier had an outbreak of disease in their feeder colony, it freaked me out too; however something to bear in mind is that all live feeders carry the potential to harbor disease or parasites; I use frozen to reduce (frozen does not always eliminate) the risk of infection but there is always a risk with any food supply. contamination can happen to anyone, especially in large scale operations.

 

[j_dunlavy]

Yes sir, I may upload a copy of my Texas drivers license in my intro just for sh*ts-n-giggles ;-) I also work full time in the oil and gas industry. My father owns and operates our colonies out of Sealy Texas. Ive been breeding rats and mice since I was a baby, ha. My chores growing up would put most kids to shame ha.

O.K, I have to admit, that is clever. A rodent breeder named Micke Mousse, lol.

 

[laterob]

I bought some mice in Late April and again in June which they shipped mid July because they said they would be "closed for the fourth of July". Seemed like some bs to me why they delayed shipping for over 2 weeks now I guess I know why. I know I shouldn't be freaking out prematurely but I can't help it! I know it doesn't need to be said again but they should've contacted their customers.

Jon I did see that there would be a delay in shipping. Wasn't a problem for me to wait or i would've gotten mice at the reptile show.

I can't read intention through written text, but 'seemed like some bs to me why they delayed shipping for over two weeks now I guess I know why', especially following the previous post, comes across as an accusation to me.

To then follow that with the other statement I quoted above puzzles me.

This thread IS about Rodent Pro, and a warning about diseases that may/may not be present in their product. Neither of you, Lisa or Micke, have provided any evidence to merit the bumping of this thread or the panic you are trying to encite.

Micke, you seem like a nice enough guy, and handsome too. It also seems like you joined Fauna towards the end of July, began selling rodents to the public towards the end of July, completed your website towards the end of July, then joined here and placed some ads. Now, I can't help but conclude that you are responding to this thread for the SOLE purpose of undermining other suppliers and building your own business.

Lisa's first post in this thread is, to me, full of exaggerations and ill-intent. Your posts, Micke, are easy enough to see through.

Personally, I find both of you acting a bit like 'ambulance chasers', and you both have left a bad taste in my mouth.

 

[Dennis Hultman]

Mr. Mousse,

Im not singling out RP here sorry that is not my intention. Ive been in this business a long time Sir. RP (not Ron Paul) is one of many guys that "resell" they do not have their own colonies. RP is not the only ones that have experienced issues in the last year either. I am not doubting your google-fu skills sir but I did manage to find much information on who supplies what feeders to where. There are also companies that have began irradiating their mice due to salmonella outbreaks. These are issues that are continuous in this business not merely a freak chance of bad luck. There are viruses that spread from rats to mice and vice-versa and can wipe out entire colonies yet even after the virus has been eradicated the locations are compromised and usually mean a dead zone for breeding and full tear down decontamination must occur... these viruses are widespread right now and there are large colonies coming off line and making supply drop on many items nationally.

Intentions are not this is a year old thread about Rodent Pro. That is exactly what you are doing by bumping this thread to the top of the forum.

You are a direct competitor posting statements like RP and others with "large colonies" are experiencing issues. You are not a customer, associate, supplier or the like experiencing problems with this company, correct?

Personally, I have some issues about all that transpired with this last year. I think it could of been handled better. That does not change the fact that you bumped this thread not to show a bad transaction, good transaction, to add direct evidence or firsthand knowledge of a ongoing problem.

So far all we have is you bumped the thread because you goggled some things about current problems and your a competitor. I don't think that is going to sit well with many. Just my opinion.

My "accusations" are merely bringing to light what any of you fine gentleman can find out for yourself thanks to google

Do some digging and you will see I'm not merely spamming for gain's sake

Maybe not just "merely" but the reason you happen to be the one bringing it here seems to be for gain.

I did a google search as well for current problems, complaints, reports and didn't find anything that your alluding to. Instead of being cryptic put the evidence up of a current investigation, report, complaints detailing what's going on.

Your the one that brought it up so put something up instead of telling people to go find it.

I would like to see why you thought it was necessary to bump this thread now. That is if it isn't merely for gain and take shots at another supplier of feeders.

You do see the impression that it gives, don't you?

Thanks.

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

I would like to see why you thought it was necessary to bump this thread now. That is if it isn't merely for gain and take shots at another supplier of feeders.

You do see the impression that it gives, don't you?

Thanks.

Come on Dennis...he had to do something to offset the fact that his prices are 2 or 3 times higher than theirs..mudslinging is free!!!

 

[Celtic Constrictors]

I wasn't going to add to the necro-thread but here goes. I read Mr. Micke Mousse's intro post when he first put it on Fauna. I thought, "what an interesting person. He has a sense of humor, and sounds like a good person to do business with."

Then, I saw his post on a competitor's bad guy thread and read it. I was dissuaded from having any more thoughts of potentially buying feeders from such a person. It was blatantly obvious why this thread was bumped.

That being said, I did "google it", Micke, and I found nothing new pertaining to infections in the feeder industry as Mr. Hultman and Vanessa both concluded.

I would sooner buy from Rodent Pro at this point even in light of what transpired over a year ago.

 

[Lucille]

Im not singling out RP here

Yes you are. You posted on a thread with their name on it. We have discussion forums here if you had wanted to simply discuss the subject of feeders, but you chose instead to post on the thread of a particular business.

It was blatantly obvious why this thread was bumped.

I agree.

I think hard work, a good product, and good customer service is what makes a business. Showing up with a catchy name while kicking your competitors in the teeth might make people remember you, but probably not in the way you wanted.

 

[BulkMice.com]

This is a completely understandable reaction and I do apologize for causing a ruckus on the board. I do realize this was most definitely not the right way to open a dialogue about mice and rat breeding colony health. Im sorry to RP for having inflamed this thread.

Micke

 

[Mistyck]

Im not singling out RP here sorry that is not my intention. Ive been in this business a long time Sir.

First off, the person you quoted is not a SIR....

Second, going through old threads just to find one about the competition and raising said thread to the top of the forum just makes you look like you're trying to cut in on the competition.

Without new and proper PROOF, this just looks like one dealer trying to get a one up on another.

 

[BulkMice.com]

First off, the person you quoted is not a SIR....

Second, going through old threads just to find one about the competition and raising said thread to the top of the forum just makes you look like you're trying to cut in on the competition.

Without new and proper PROOF, this just looks like one dealer trying to get a one up on another.

Im sorry about the gender mix up, I did not go mean offense. I did not look through this persons profile and I apologist.

You are correct and I see the folly of my course. I should not have posted on an existing thread, I should have created a new specific thread which was a mistake.

 

[DISCERN]

Come on Dennis...he had to do something to offset the fact that his prices are 2 or 3 times higher than theirs..mudslinging is free!!!

You ain't kidding!!

Checked out his prices, and was absolutely astounded. 2 to 3 times higher, plus many sizes of the rodents are anywhere from 5 to 15 grams SMALLER than most other rodent suppliers.

BulkMice.com....have fun trying to even compete in this industry.

 

[Wilomn]

While you are all tearing the new guy a new one, let's not forget that RP DID do some really crappy things.

They didn't tell anyone about a very serious disease they knew they had, they denied they had it, then said it was suppliers of theirs who really had it. If I recall, at least one of those suppliers had his facility and all contents burned to the ground because this disease was so serious.

So, while RP may now, or may not, have good rodents, they didn't, lied about it, and really, deep down, should not be given the benefit of the doubt. They've already proven they don't deserve it.

Let the new guy bashing continue.

 

[perreault1988]

I'm starting to wonder now weather this had something to do with the me having to euthanize one of my snakes do to a random neurological problem after his first probably 4 feeding with rodent pro rats

 

[Snake-Queen]

I'm starting to wonder now weather this had something to do with the me having to euthanize one of my snakes do to a random neurological problem after his first probably 4 feeding with rodent pro rats

If you have recently ordered from RP, I doubt it. If you fed mice/rats that have been in the freezer for a year and a half, possibly ... or could be the fact that you fed expired feeders (if the latter option applies).

 

[dinosaurdammit]

Got an order once never again, the rats were soaked in pee and poop not to mention most had cyst or tumors of some sort which uh hello gross! Not to mention when thawed they seeped a greenish thick ooze from ears nose and anus or any sores. I tossed them into a fire because it wasn't worth the risk. Rp needs to get it together. I ordered a while back. Lucky for me I found a great place to get rats which is where I also work. I've heard of other issues with rp when my husband placed an order for a buddy of his at work. I have to wonder what I ordered wasn't frozen ASAP and then sat in the freezer for over a year. :/ wonder if anyone else on here had an issue. We were discussing it in a boa group on fb.

 

[Snake-Queen]

If you have recently ordered from RP, I doubt it. If you fed mice/rats that have been in the freezer for a year and a half, possibly ... or could be the fact that you fed expired feeders (if the latter option applies).

I am recalling my statements.

It is quite possible that RP is still having issues. I no longer order from them, but when I did, my rodents were fine; I just switched to a local supplier to save on shipping.

As with everything, precaution is best. If it smells funny, don't use it.