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Ebola epidemic

Not that I am painting anyone as a bad guy, but having an antidote to Ebola would place any manufacturer of such an antidote in a position of immense power.
If one was prone to thinking in science fiction terms, one might even wonder if, as in Blacklist, infections might be intentional.

Yeah... The vaccine would go on sale right after the first cases turn up in countries with a large enough population of people able to afford the high prices for it. The sacrificed African population would be just for free advertising exposure to stimulate interest in the targeted markets.

The frightening thing is that there very likely ARE marketing strategists in pharmaceutical and related companies who do think that way about how to increase profits.
 
In a way, it's already happening. So far, the 'cure' has been to have unlimited clean water, blood, and a sterile environment. Those who can afford to fly home to these luxuries seem to be doing okay.
I did love how Blacklist did it though. They mutated the virus to stay within one person, then sent 24 hours worth of antidote every 24 hours, as long as the person did what they wanted. Total fiction, but an interesting twist. I guess that's fodder for the other thread.
I'm sure there will be a huge swing in the country's economy, via the stock market, once that cure comes out.

Noelle
 
The frightening thing is that there very likely ARE marketing strategists in pharmaceutical and related companies who do think that way about how to increase profits.

If one was inclined to think in science fiction terms, one might think that the vaccine has been in existence for a while. One might surmise that the appropriate military has been (unknowingly) vaccinated, along with those (knowingly)with political or financial clout.

I'm thinking, as far as everyone else, there would be few protesters. Protesters have significants others, parents, children, who need the vaccine, and those who have the vaccine to sell could simply withhold it from the protester's family.
 
The walking dead.

Liberia: Dead Ebola Patients Resurrect?
http://allafrica.com/stories/201409240829.html
By Franklin Doloquee

Two Ebola patients, who died of the virus in separate communities in Nimba County have reportedly resurrected in the county. The victims, both females, believed to be in their 60s and 40s respectively, died of the Ebola virus recently in Hope Village Community and the Catholic Community in Ganta, Nimba.

But to the amazement of residents and onlookers on Monday, the deceased reportedly regained life in total disbelief. The NewDawn Nimba County correspondent said the late Dorris Quoi of Hope Village Community and the second victim only identified as Ma Kebeh, said to be in her late 60s, were about to be taken for burial when they resurrected.

Ma Kebeh had reportedly been in door for two nights without food and medication before her alleged death. Nimba County has had bazaar news of Ebola cases with a native doctor from the county, who claimed that he could cure infected victims, dying of the virus himself last week.

News of the resurrection of the two victims has reportedly created panic in residents of Hope Village Community and Ganta at large, with some citizens describing Dorris Quoi as a ghost, who shouldn't live among them. Since the Ebola outbreak in Nimba County, this is the first incident of dead victims resurrecting.
 
North Texas Hospital Evaluating Patient For Potential Ebola Exposure

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/09/29/...luating-patient-for-potential-ebola-exposure/
DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) – A North Texas hospital has a patient in isolation as they evaluate them for potential exposure to the Ebola virus.

Officials with Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas released the following statement Monday night:

“Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas has admitted a patient into strict isolation to be evaluated for potential Ebola Virus Disease (EVD) based on the patient’s symptoms and recent travel history. The hospital is following all Centers for Disease Control and Texas Department of Heath recommendations to ensure the safety of patients, hospital staff, volunteers, physicians and visitors. The CDC anticipates preliminary results tomorrow.”

It is unclear what specific symptoms the patient has or what the patient’s travel history was.

CBS 11 News spoke with Dallas County Health and Human Services Director Zachary Thompson who confirmed the patient had been in an area where the Ebola virus exists. “Looking at the travel history is the first indicator and then the next step is [treatment or non-treatment] once we get lab results,” he said.

Thompson definitely felt that there should be a heightened sense of awareness in North Texas, based on what has happened internationally. “With what we’ve seen in the media and how deadly the Ebola virus is, it is a concern.”

Thompson stressed that there are certain procedures that will be followed if tests for the ptient come back positive. “We [health professionals] all had been planning to look at what our next steps are if there is a confirmed case. Again, we have to do the public health follow up, to see what contacts… where this individual has gone since they arrived here in Dallas. There are a number of things that have to be looked at.”

As far as possible infection to others here in North Texas Thompson said, “The key point is, if there’s been no transmission, blood, secretion, any type of bodily fluids by the infected person to someone else, then that risk is low to none.”

The Ebola virus has killed more than 3,000 people across West Africa and infected several Americans who have traveled to the region, including Fort Worth Doctor Kent Brantly who contracted the disease while doing missionary work in Liberia.
 
Reuters -
The first patient diagnosed with Ebola in the United States initially sought treatment six days after arriving in the country, potentially exposing a "handful" of family members and others to the virus, a top U.S. health official said on Tuesday.

Dr. Thomas Frieden, director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said he had no doubt that local and federal health authorities could contain the potential spread of the deadly virus in the country.

"It is certainly possible someone who had contact with this individual could develop Ebola in the coming weeks," Frieden told a press conference. "I have no doubt we will stop this in its tracks in the United States."

The patient was hospitalized at a Dallas hospital on Sunday after traveling from Liberia, one of the countries hit hardest by the worst Ebola outbreak on record.
 
As I understand it he was symptom-free and therefore hopefully not (or very limitedly) infectious while he was travelling, and obviously he as soon as he did develop symptoms and his travel history was known (he was in Sierra Leone* , I think, about 11 days ago) doctors were alerted and he's in treatment.

On an optimistic front, this shows that the disease control system worked in this instance, but I'd be interested to know if he volunteered himself to CDC or if he was picked up any other way?

* I stand corrected, it was Liberia
 
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One of the articles I read stated he came in two days earlier and was sent home and told he had the flu. Then when systems worsened family called an ambulance to pick him up. He was sick a couple days before going to the emergency room.

So that is four days with symptoms. One trip by himself to emergency room. Contact with people there waiting for treatment, medical staff and doctors then back home for a couple of days.
 
CDC Confirms Patient In Dallas Has The Ebola Virus

Oh crap......

So how did medical personnel get the travel history? I presume it was volunteered by the patient upon admittance to the hospital. So this person was infected with Ebola, got onto the plane without exhibiting symptoms, and then started showing symptoms after being in the USA. Doesn't this scare the crap out of anyone else?

The whole epidemic (or pandemic) containment protocol is hinging on the singular fact that they expect a patient to be voluntarily forthright about their travel history when they come into the hospital seeking treatment. From what I am reading THAT is going to be the deciding factor as to whether an admitted patient COULD have Ebola, or just a touch of the flu.

Quite honestly no medical facility is going to have the resources to treat everyone coming in with flu-like symptoms as if they potentially have Ebola. Especially with us heading into flu season right now. Is EVERYONE going to be tested, or just rely on them telling the truth as to where they have been recently? If someone gets into the country, has symptoms, and does contaminate a few other people, when those secondary infected people go to their primary care physician, they would be considered as only having the flu, and treated as such. Then we have the beginning of a BIG problem.

That patient started showing "symptoms", I presume while at home, so from what I understand once someone shows symptoms, they are then capable of spreading the virus. I'm sure he exhibited those symptoms at least a little while before deciding to go to the hospital, so it is HIGHLY unlikely he is the only one carrying the virus in that area right now. How long was he exhibiting symptoms before deciding to go to the hospital? How many casual contacts might come down with flu like symptoms in a few days and just think, "Crap, I think I'm coming down with a cold or flu. But I can't afford to take off of work and I've GOT to go to the post office and grocery store today."

Well, looks like that cat may be climbing out of the bag now.

Sorry, might sound cold of me, but I can't believe the government is allowing flights into the country carrying people coming from the heart of the Ebola epidemic. I hope history doesn't look back on this as being an incredibly disastrous mistake.

Man, this is making the hairs stand up on the back of my neck. Last time I had this feeling was when I read the first article in Science News many moons ago about this new thing discovered called AIDS.

Addendum: I found a webpage that is answering some of the questions I have..... -> http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/30/health/ebola-us/
 
It scares me!! For one it is in MY state!! And Dallas is only 200 miles east of me.

When I hear about Ebola on the other side of the world it doesn't scare me nearly as much as when it is in my 'back yard'!!
 
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/09/30/cdc-confirms-first-case-ebola-in-us/

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) confirmed on Tuesday that a patient being treated at a Dallas hospital has tested positive for Ebola, the first case diagnosed in the United States.

The patient left Liberia on September 19 and arrived in the United States on September 20, CDC director, Dr. Tom Frieden told reporters at a press conference Tuesday. It’s the first patient to be diagnosed with this particular strain of Ebola outside of Africa.

“[The patient] had no symptoms when departing Liberia or entering this country. But four or five days later on the 24th of September, he began to develop symptoms,” said Frieden.

The patient, who was in the U.S. visiting family in Texas, initially sought care on September 26, but was sent home and was not admitted until two days later. He was placed in isolation at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital of Dallas, where he remains critically ill, according to Frieden.


“The next steps are basically threefold,” said Frieden. “First, to care for the patient … to provide the most effective care possible as safely as possible to keep to an absolute minimum the likelihood or possibility that anyone would become affected, and second, to maximize the chances that the patient might recover,” said Frieden.

Frieden said the CDC and Texas health officials were working to identify and monitor anyone who may have come in contact with the patient.

“It's only someone who's sick with Ebola who can spread the disease,” said Frieden. “Once those contacts are all identified, they're all monitored for 21 days after exposure to see if they develop a fever.”

Frieden added that while it is possible that someone who had contact with the patient could develop Ebola in the coming weeks, he has no doubt the infection will be contained. At this point, he said, there is zero risk of transmission to anyone on the flight with the patient because he was not showing any symptoms at the time of travel.

It's unclear how the patient became infected, but health officials said he “undoubtedly had close contact with someone who was sick with Ebola or who had died from it.”

The patient will stay at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital for treatment, where epidemiologist Dr. Edward Goodman, said medical staff have a plan in place for some time now in the event that a traveler brought Ebola to the United States, noting that the team had a crisis preparedness meeting just one week before the patient arrived at the facility.

Hospital officials are currently evaluating different treatment options, including experimental therapies which have been successful in other patients, according to Frieden.

Both the CDC and the Texas Department of State Health Services performed lab testing that is said to be highly accurate for detecting the Ebola virus disease.

“Our lab has a specially trained team to handle high-risk patients like this,” said Dr. David Lakey, commissioner of Texas Department of State Health Services. “We have no other suspected cases in the state of Texas at this time.”

Zachary Thompson, director of Dallas County Health and Human Services urged residents to rest assured the agency was doing everything they could to ensure the safety of the community, and that they would be working closely with the CDC and local health officials to follow up and track possible contacts of the patient.

Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital of Dallas officials said in a statement Monday that an unnamed patient was being tested for Ebola and had been placed in "strict isolation" due to the patient's symptoms and recent travel history, and that the facility was taking measures to keep its doctors, staff and patients safe.

The hospital had announced a day earlier that the patient's symptoms and recent travel indicated a case of Ebola, the virus that has killed more than 3,000 people across West Africa and infected a handful of Americans who have traveled to that region.

The CDC has said 12 other people in the U.S. have been tested for Ebola since July 27. Those tests came back negative.

Four American aid workers who have become infected while volunteering in West Africa have been treated in special isolation facilities in hospitals in Atlanta and Nebraska, and a U.S. doctor exposed to the virus in Sierra Leone is under observation in a similar facility at the National Institutes of Health.

The U.S. has only four such isolation units but the CDC has insisted that any hospital can safely care for someone with Ebola.

According to the CDC, Ebola symptoms can include fever, muscle pain, vomiting and bleeding, and can appear as long as 21 days after exposure to the virus.

Jason McDonald, spokesman for the CDC, said health officials use two primary guidelines when deciding whether to test a person for the virus.

"The first and foremost determinant is have they traveled to the region (of West Africa)," he said. The second is whether there's been proximity to family, friends or others who've been exposed, he said.

U.S. health officials have been preparing since summer in case an individual traveler arrived here unknowingly infected, telling hospitals what infection-control steps to take to prevent the virus from spreading in health facilities. People boarding planes in the outbreak zone are checked for fever, but symptoms can begin up to 21 days after exposure. Ebola isn't contagious until symptoms begin, and it takes close contact with bodily fluids to spread.

Frieden said there may be a handful of potential patient contacts who need monitoring in the United States. He compared that with the nearly 900 contacts who were monitored when an infected patient brought the Ebola virus to Lagos in July, reiterated his confidence in health officials' ability to control the disease.

“The bottom line here is that I have no doubt that we will control this importation or this case of Ebola so that it does not spread widely throughout this country,” Frieden said. “There’s no doubt in my mind, we will stop it here.”
 
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/09/30/details-on-ebola-patients-arrival-in-texas-current-condition/

This one states he didn't have symptoms of the flu but was given antibiotics and left.
DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) - The North Texas patient now confirmed to have Ebola arrived in the DFW area 10 days ago. We know he started suffering symptoms four days later and on the 26th sought healthcare for the first time.

After going to a local emergency room the patient was sent home with antibiotics because he didn’t present symptoms of the flu or any other contagious, serious illness. On September 28 the man was taken to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital by ambulance — where he’s been ever since.

Earlier Tuesday CDC officials said the patient was critically ill, but the hospital won’t comment on his condition citing patient privacy. They did tell CBS 11 News however that the patient is communicating with them and able to easily express when he is hungry.

It was only after the patient arrived back at Presbyterian Hospital on Sunday that health workers checked his travel history and started trying to determine if he could possibly have Ebola.


Tuesday night, the patient remained in a special isolation unit of the Intensive Care unit and was being watched through a glass wall. Doctors say an important part of his treatment includes making sure he is well hydrated.

Staff at Presbyterian Hospital had been following the Ebola threat closely for months; they not only planned for a case, but also had a crisis preparedness meeting just a week before the man showed up in the ER.
 
Doesn't this scare the crap out of anyone else?

Yes. The next few weeks should be interesting for Texas, while we wait and see if there will be subsequent cases.

I loled at the mention in the link above that air travelers in some of the countries mentioned are 'screened for fever' and not permitted to fly if they have one. All someone needs to do is take a Tylenol before going to the airport and an elevated temp will come down for a few hours, long enough to get on the plane.
 
Definitely frightening. Goes back to my earlier question: Should the government be allowing people who visit northwestern Africa to freely fly back into to the US until we get this under control.
I flew out of the US during the H1N1 ordeal, and all we had to do was fill out a short questionnaire before entering other countries. Obviously, those surveys did nothing to curb the outbreak.
It just makes you want to scream "Stop going over there!!!". It would have been that simple. Too late now.
 
So the guy just went to the emergency room of the hospital because he had nothing better to do that day? :rolleyes:

Sometimes I think that unless the issue can be treated right there in the ER, the patient is send home.
I recall some years ago a teacher's assistant brought her young child to my clinic at 7AM or so (yeah, I got there early most of the time). She did not want to take off work unless she had to, she had used up all her sick leave so if she didn't work, she didn't get paid, and those assistants make very little money. The child presented with the classic symptoms of appendicitis, so I told her it was urgent that she take her child to the emergency room immediately, and she went.
Her child was seen, and they were sent home. That day in the late afternoon, according to what she was told on her second, now extremely urgent visit, the appendix ruptured.

Fortunately the child lived. But here, with an infectious disease such as Ebola, the urgency for a correct, early diagnosis is multiplied, it is not only the ill person at risk, but potentially many, many more.
 
From that article:
Thomas Eric Duncan had left Liberia on Sept. 19 and arrived in Dallas the following day.

On Sept. 26, he sought treatment at the hospital after becoming ill but was sent back to the northeast Dallas apartment complex where he was staying with a prescription for antibiotics. Duncan's sister, Mai Wureh, said he notified health-care workers that he was visiting from Liberia when they asked for his Social Security number and he told them he didn't have one.
Just great. Go to the hospital because you feel bad, the health care workers do get told that you've recently arrived from a viral hot zone, and you get sent home with an antibiotic.
 
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