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Bad Guy Daniel Christian

"Daniel Christian's" account will be disabled shortly. There are multiple reasons to believe his account contains false information so ID proof was requested. No ID was supplied and more than ample time was given for such ID.
 
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Interesting where Ohio216/Kendrick was looking for a female Russian tortoise back in Jan.
"Daniel" has a current Ad where he is selling Russian Tortoises. An Ad for Russian Tortoises, by itself, could mean nothing. However, it does show another link (even if small) between Kendrick and "Daniel".
 

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It took more digging to find the truth and like Mr. David said he did have other ads selling them as eastern box turtles and I seen them for myself. Yes he did go a little crazy but he was just looking out for them and he seemed pretty mad that he was getting away with everything and he should of never been banned even for a few days because he was confronting a clear liar and scammer. Mr. David said he got in trouble for calling him a lowlife, well he was right and nailed it. I cant believe he had the nerve to rip someone off and then try to repost them as a different turtles. I don't know the definition of what you would call someone that does what he did but I agree with what Mr. David called him after seeing what Daniel has done so far. I wonder when his ban lifts cant wait to see what he has to say about all of this new stuff here. Will be interesting to see. I'm glad to see at least one more scammer is gone but you never know if he will make a new account and try this scam all over again so watch out for anything like this I know I will.
 
I wonder when his ban lifts cant wait to see what he has to say about all of this new stuff here. Will be interesting to see.

Levi4turtle's account is active again. It will be interesting to see his thoughts now seeing that the two accounts (Daniel C & Ohio216) are linked under different names. Perhaps someone can shot him a PM and ask him to chime in. Thanks:thumbsup:
 
Does anyone recognize this person? "Daniel C", since you have been trying to view this thread, do you recognize this person?
 

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That's bs I just know am able to log in been trying since 9pm when it said it ended why is that? Here is a email from this guy the other one he wrote I cant put on here unless im aloud to post what other people write he swears a lot in first email. here is his second one. he is what I called him he says he pretty much is a scammer.
 

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I love how he thinks I wanted to buy them shows how smart he really is. I hope this guy never returns on here again or try to make a different account. I seen and seen scammers and figured out how they work. But I'm the bad guy
 
Ya I get upset when people try to scam and have illegal turtles. They cant speck for themselves. He has them I don't think he found them on internet he's going to try to avoid getting in trouble for illegal turtles. I hope he's banned for good I have called out several scammers so far. It's not hard. They prey on hard working people to make a quick dollar because they don't want to work they just want a hand out free money is only thing on scammers minds. He ripped off one person already and had the nerve to post again.
 
Whoops what I meant was it's not your message.
Anyway I hear you man. Obviously the guy is scum. Just deliver your message differently or it gets lost and then you take the focus off the problem and put it on you and then nobody cares about the scammer because you've engaged everyone else in a confrontation. You have passion that's a good thing but trust me from my own experience a little goes a long way.
 
I exchanged a few PMs with "daniel c" as this was developing, the culmination of which is below. The last message from me was after Robert revealed his plan to ask for ID confirmation - just a final poke, since I knew his time was very limited.
hhmoore said:
Why did you stop using ohio216, which was only registered a month before this one?
daniel c said:
I wanted to use my real name and I couldn't change it on that one.
hhmoore said:
You created an account using another person's name? Why would you do that? (Don't tell me you made up the name & just happened to come up with one that matches a person that lives in the area....and that the D.O.B. you used for that name matches that person by coincidence).
 
As long as I'm posting PMs, here's one that I sent Levi4turtle when his rant in the ad was in its early stages.
I'm not going to discuss it in the ad, and exacerbate the problem.
You seem to be under the misconception that we freely ban people that we suspect are scammers. We don't. It is not our place to act as judge and jury. Spammers - they're gone. People confirmed to have used false information when registering - gone. Otherwise, there is a process, and it takes time.

As far as comments in the ad - posting basic warning is fine...if you're sure. It's best if you include proof (ie identify the origins of the pictures used, show that the email address is all over the 'net, etc). Once that is done, a BOI thread should be posted...and any subsequent commentary belongs there. The mentality that it's okay to pile on in these ads tends to spill over into other ads; so, no, it is not acceptable. Disruptive posting is disruptive posting, and is subject to infractions.

As far as why that person is still able to post - I was attempting to tie it to some other ads, and hadn't had time for an in depth investigation. Please refer back to the earlier explanation about process and time - a PM sent (with read receipt) has not been opened, so the clock can't start ticking. That account will likely never make another post, anyway.

Investigating things here can often lead to some unexpected finds...and those can take time to develop/explore. I do have some more questions related to this situation; and perhaps some information that hasn't been shared yet. As I told Levi4turtle, though, it's a process; and while it can be tempting to lay everything on the table early, it isn't always the best move for us.
 
Unfortunately, it seems that I took the wind out of this thread by removing Levi4turtle :(

Mr Champlin - deercorpse - I noticed that you were here during the night... perhaps you could shine some light on what your digging revealed about this situation. I've sort of hit a standstill, and help from the membership is always appreciated :thumbsup:

It's tempting to lift Levi4turtle's ban, to get the rest of his input on this - especially the part that is slowing me down...I'm not really a turtle guy, so I'm more easily derailed in this category - but I'm not that desperate yet. (Besides, he needs to learn to abide by the rules if he's going to participate)
 
Yes he did go a little crazy (ref. Levi4turtle)
On an unrelated note, Levi4turtle has once again been temporarily removed

Before they both were banned (again), Levi4turtle sent me the uncensored emails between him and Daniel C. Later on, I will try to post the censored versions.

As readers can see from Harald's PM with Daniel C, there is no question that both accounts "Daniel C" & "Ohio216" are the same person.
 
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