Bad Guy Beware of zactay24

[Afrock86]

Could be sirafim, but if he was really trying to find a good owner and one who is experienced, putting it on Craigslist for half the price it's worth is not imo looking out for the snake.

 

[zactay24]

He is correct on his story. Last year I had her posted by my girlfriend on cl. I am not a fan of Craigslist but it's simple to use and easy to post. I had been traveling to north Georgia to deal with my dad who had a stroke. I believe I told you I had family business to deal with. I had been traveling back and forth several times. I did have several people no show on her. My girlfriend really isn't a snake person. So she was contacting me saying that people weren't meeting or would show up with less cash asking to hold as a deposit. I got back and we did have a arrangement to meet but my father passed away. I personally know the owner of animal love inc she took her in. I have been back full time in Florida since February. I'm sorry if I caused any issues or problems for you or other people.

 

[hoppingherps]

I read through the posts with a bit of hesitation on your inclination of what finalized the deal. Having a good working knowledge on finalizing a trade/sale of a herp two things in your messages seems apparent. You wanted that snake very badly(we all have had that one) which put you in the mindset in those lasts few messages the deal was as good as gold. Next you failed to see from his messages he had already wrote off the trip to meet.

He may have been a bit cryptic with getting around to saying it was not going to happen. Being uneasy about the meeting/transaction whatever you see it as he gave clues that he did not want to. To top that off he never made a solid agreement of this sale happening. You got him to figure out a day but he never gave the thumbs up like telling you what car(make, color), a definite place to meet with a set time.

At the very best he was just a little passive on the firm NO. Now to top that off even if he never sold/gave the snake to the other person in what universe do you believe it right to call him out on the BOI with this amount of time passed. If we all got this worked up over missed opportunities without a single dime swapping hands this forum would crash. If anything something else is missing from the story and the perspective of the seller would help clarify this.

 

[Serafim]

I read through the posts with a bit of hesitation on your inclination of what finalized the deal. Having a good working knowledge on finalizing a trade/sale of a herp two things in your messages seems apparent. You wanted that snake very badly(we all have had that one) which put you in the mindset in those lasts few messages the deal was as good as gold. Next you failed to see from his messages he had already wrote off the trip to meet.

He may have been a bit cryptic with getting around to saying it was not going to happen. Being uneasy about the meeting/transaction whatever you see it as he gave clues that he did not want to. To top that off he never made a solid agreement of this sale happening. You got him to figure out a day but he never gave the thumbs up like telling you what car(make, color), a definite place to meet with a set time.

At the very best he was just a little passive on the firm NO. Now to top that off even if he never sold/gave the snake to the other person in what universe do you believe it right to call him out on the BOI with this amount of time passed. If we all got this worked up over missed opportunities without a single dime swapping hands this forum would crash. If anything something else is missing from the story and the perspective of the seller would help clarify this.

I agree I didnt see it as a solid deal. I have made a ball python purchase before in person and I was given specific details like car make and model what they would be wearing etc. I do agree the seller could have just come right out and said no or explained the circumstances better. I do not think they deserved a bad guy thread seeing as no money was taken.

 

[Afrock86]

Seems like someone is lying

 

[Serafim]

Lying or not i could care less shame on him but your actions with contacting Love inc is creepy. So he decided to not sell to you I can now see why.. I would warn anyone who would potentially sell to you to beware..

 

[Afrock86]

You're not getting the point serafim, he said he k ow longer has the boa and that he gave it to animal love. He did not give it to animal lI've and he is selling the same boa he has said to not have. I also stated earlier that I would ask the program if they in fact did buy the snake considering g I have no pitlctoral evidence of the snake. My bad if trying to avoid someone else getting scammed i's creepy.

 

[Afrock86]

Pictorial evidence*

 

[Serafim]

You're not getting the point serafim, he said he k ow longer has the boa and that he gave it to animal love. He did not give it to animal lI've and he is selling the same boa he has said to not have. I also stated earlier that I would ask the program if they in fact did buy the snake considering g I have no pitlctoral evidence of the snake. My bad if trying to avoid someone else getting scammed i's creepy.

No Your not getting the point... Thousands of fauna members and business owners that conduct business here have people back out of deals or they themselves back out of deals ITS THEIR CHOICE. The fact that money never changed hands makes this easy. You are upset he did not sell you a boa. You trolled his sales ad. He never asked for any money up front. You created a bad guy thread for seller backing out of a sale in August of 2016. You could have done an FYI thread to show some concern. You have no valid proof he does not have the snake. I do not condone him lying he has no reason to lie all he had to do is say he did not want to sell the snake. All im saying is from what Im reading your behavior is creepy. You did not get the snake you wanted at a steal as you posted initially so here we are. I would also advise anyone looking to buy that snake to use some caution ask some questions request some pictures with agreed upon words written on paper. It just odd that the only reason you trolled his ad was because he increased the value. Remember you have 20 boas already Im sure you have other sources of buying one. Your only issue is he did not sell you the snake. BTW who keeps text messages of someone they dont know for 9 months? The point is without PROOF of Scam. All he has done is back out of a deal.im sure everyone will tread lightly from here on Congrats you warned us. can we also get a link to the Boa in question might make it easier to find and maybe a link to this thread on his ad..

 

[Afrock86]

1. He posted the snake on the classifieds. 2015 female Guyana boa with lots of purple from the palm bay area. Hmm rings a little bit if a bell for me.

2. Enter the phone number that he has listed into my messaging in my phone and BAM, any texts I've had in the past with this number appear. I did not intentionally troll him.

You seem to have doubted me sense the very beginning, and somehow excuse his lying and shadyness over be being "creepy". I wonder if this had blew up in my face and animal love Inc did in fact have the snake, if you would have found it creepy. This will be the last convo I will have with you on the matter bc you seem particularly biased.

 

[Serafim]

Out of curiousity I sent the seller a request for pictures. I mean its possible something is up I also requested the picture include a piece of paper with todays date on it. Im having trouble getting it to upload from my phone can I text you the reqested picture? Now im feeling creepy lol

 

[Fangthane]

My bad if trying to avoid someone else getting scammed i's creepy.

Well, it's not like you sent out friend requests, hoping to gain access to someone's more private FB posts to use in a smear campaign. Simply seeking verification doesn't seem very creepy to me. This thread may have started as a bit of a dud; but barring some really damn good explanation, you seem to have caught him with his pants down. I always appreciate knowing just who can be counted on to lie when the chips are down. Toss someone a little rope and sometimes they manage to tie a noose and justify their place in the spotlight.

 

[Serafim]

 

[Serafim]

Requested photo with requested info of snake which seller does not have

 

[Afrock86]

Can someone please explain to serafim that there is no question that the owner of the boa has her, but that he is using that said boa to catfish people for whatever reason into buying said boa. Hence the educational program that he claimed on here to know personally (but in his message's to me his sister knew of them) that he said he sold them to has no idea what I was takin about. I don't know how many more times I can explain it.

 

[Serafim]

You're not getting the point serafim, he said he k ow longer has the boa and that he gave it to animal love. He did not give it to animal lI've and he is selling the same boa he has said to not have. I also stated earlier that I would ask the program if they in fact did buy the snake considering g I have no pitlctoral evidence of the snake. My bad if trying to avoid someone else getting scammed i's creepy.

Looks like someone is back peddling a bit. He lied he hurt his credibility as a seller Will probably never sell the boa and if people did their homework they would ask questions and get current photos. Your original claim and your response on his ad was he was going to jerk people around. He jerked you around You never once before contacting that lady said anything about him not having the boa your complaint was he doubled the price

 

[Serafim]

You actually going to sell this snake this time or going to jerk people who are interested around again like you did too me a few months back. Feel free to defend your business practices on the BOI if you'd like.
Last edited by Afrock86; 05-20-2017 at 08:00 AM.

 

[Serafim]

I see he has a Guyana boa for sale here that he had for sale on Craigslist back in october. He listed it for $200 which is a steal for such a great snake. He's tried selling the snake multiple times and acruelly finally got ahold of him to buy it, made plans and everything and then he texts me that he's giving it to an educational program. Well looks like that was bs bc it's on here for double the price.

Convo takes multiple posts

No mention of you are concerned he doesnt have the animal he lied to you we get it. Your upset because you didnt get the snke you wanted for 200 dollars. For the record too all viewers the lie is not to be excused there was no reason to lie to begin with a simple I decided to do something else with the snake would have been sufficient. A liar is a Liar but the op hasnt proven anything except he really wants that snake..

 

[Serafim]

Can someone please explain to serafim that there is no question that the owner of the boa has her, but that he is using that said boa to catfish people for whatever reason into buying said boa. Hence the educational program that he claimed on here to know personally (but in his message's to me his sister knew of them) that he said he sold them to has no idea what I was takin about. I don't know how many more times I can explain it.

and for the record nobody needs to explian anything to me. You proved he needs to be approached with caution you also proved at least in my opinion that you have the potential to be the customer from hell.. Again You didnt get the snake move on

 

[Chris Kennard]

Thanks for the heads up Dakota.