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Bad Guy William Gangemi (at repticon)

I was at the Columbia repticon show on the 11th and 12th, and I got two flapneck chameleons from William/Billy Gangemi (he uses both names), as soon as we were on the way home with them I noticed that the female was licking her lips and yellow puss was coming out but I thought maybe she had just eaten and was just swallowing it. This happened for the second time but again I was optimistic and that she was just processing food, since she was just a little girl. I went to go pick up both of their cages and noticed it again so while waiting I did some research and found out it was a tongue infection, so immediately I took her to the vet and they gave me the same diagnosis. I started treating her right away. I decided that it was a good idea to check my male just in case and sure enough it was the same thing, a tongue infection, that night my female didn't make it.
And upon looking him up I found news articles about him involved in illegal wildlife trafficking.
Article: https://www.thestate.com/news/business/article213374129.html
Here is a statement from that article: In the current case, five other men with S.C. connections have pleaded not guilty to illicit wildlife trading charges and are awaiting trial. Those men are: Joseph Logan Brooks of Holly Hill, Matthew Tyler Fischer and William Martin Fischer of Harleyville, Matthew Harrison Kail of Florida and William Gangemi of New Jersey.
That was just a few months ago!!!
Please be careful where you get your animals from, and make sure you look the people up.
 
I'm sorry, but if you have been charged with illegal animal import why does repticon still have you as a vendor?
 
Lol

But just in case people do believe that, I want to point out that Repticon is a private company. You would think they would want to distance theirselves from him, if not just legally but for their own image. I know he is just a vendor, but still.... I'm OP and therefore biased.
 
When figures such as: "Collectively, the multitude of turtles traded between Hong Kong and the United States were valued at up to $409,000", some people will line up for that kind of money, knowing it's illegal, and of course being caught, is the last thing on their minds. Go figure.:shrug01:


Here at my ranch, during spring and summer, my family and I see on average 15 to 25 three toed box turtles every 3 to 4 weeks, my family and I would greatly miss them if they disappeared.


It all comes down to those who have a love of money, when in fact we are to use money.

Seeing these indigenous critters here at my ranch is Priceless!

JMHO

Lynn Peterson
Big Time Reptiles
 
I think that some great strategies are....

Let the buyer beware.

If it sounds like to good of a deal, then it probably is. Walk away....

Understand that reptile shows are a swap meet.
The healthiest and best animals are not there.

Research the animal you are interested in, AND look for reputable breeders.
Email them or call them, If they are too busy to reply, or help you move on.
 
Sick animal bought at Hamburg, PA show

I found this thread because I was trying to locate Mr. Gangemi to request a refund for a RETF I bought at the show.
This was my first time buying an animal from a show, I did not know there were WC animals for sale, otherwise I had not gone at all.
I asked the lady (the mother of Mr. Gangemi) at the table why the one was different from the others, she told me it was not different they were all the same. I insisted it was darker than the others and she dismissed again giving me an empty explanation. Because I had never seen a RETF in person before I didn't know the shape of their bodys, so I didn't notice they were emaciated.
Because the darker, to me, looked pretty I got it plus 2 more.
I made sure to be very careful carrying them, went quick to the car when I left the building and immediately turned on the heater.
When I got home the dark one was dead and another was very bad.
I just want Mr. Gangemi to refund for the frog that died, the one his mother saw and even after I asked about it she allowed me to buy.
Thank you!
 
Red Eyes can be deep dark green as well as bright lime green and be perfectly healthy.

It was cold that day of the show- if you brought them to the car and THEN turned on the heater, that's plenty of time for them to die. 10 minutes in December hamburg weather waiting for the car to warm up would kill pretty much any tropical frog.

Or, you were just incredibly unlucky enough that two frogs that were alive when you bought them, succumbed to their illness at the exact same time immediately after being transported home in December with nothing to do with the weather...
 
I did not say they got sick after I bought them, I said they were already sick and one was already dying. There was one already dead at the table but I thought casualties are expected. Now I see some have more casualties than others!:rolleyes:
 
MartaK said:
I did not say they got sick after I bought them, I said they were already sick and one was already dying. There was one already dead at the table but I thought casualties are expected. Now I see some have more casualties than others_
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Seriously Marta, you purchased critters you are now saying were already sick and dying after you claim to have seen a dead frog on the table? You really do not have to know body shapes to recognize emaciation. I think it is much more likely that this was a weather/husbandry issue.
I'm sure you took photos, can you post them please?
 
If you had contacted me I would have issued a refund the day off. I haven’t had an issue with any of the others and as stated above some are light green some are dark and some have spots and some don’t. Please privately email me so we can work something out. Thanks and as for another one dead at the table I don’t recall as there’s no way in hell I would have left a dead frog on the table at the show! Thanks everyone take care
 
Why would I have the trouble of coming here to say lies? What would I gain with it? Maybe you guys are used to deal with scumbags but I am not one of them.
Yes I took pictures and yes there was a dead frog on the bottom container, please ask your mother, she disposed of it.
Mr. Gangemi I will email you the pictures tomorrow, tonight I have an appointment I am already late for.
Thank you!
 
Marta very sorry to hear of your loss.

Generally there is no guarantees on amphibians.

Frogs are fragile creatures and losses can be expected.

You had the opportunity to look over the frogs in person before you purchased. if the frogs looked sick why did you buy them?
 
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