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WILD BILL245

WILD BILL245

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I Am Interested In Getting A Super Dwarf Retic And Would Like To Know Where I Might Be Able One. I Never See Them Listed For Sale Anywhere.
 
Contact Garrett Hartle, his business is Reach out Reptiles out of Pittsburgh. He is the real deal. Have to be careful wen it comes to SD relics, lots of uneducated ppl out there. Not only will you receive a great animal but he is full of a wealth of knowledge. He also has a great YouTube channel. Good luck in your search sir.

Chris
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I highly recommend Rodney Boalich out of Clearfield, PA. He is an extreme retic locale breeder and very knowledgeable. A good guy to deal with. He breeds true SD retics. I got a wonderful male Selayer Island retic form him 5 years ago that is a joy to keep. The Selayer retics are beautiful and have very calm temperaments usually. They are a dwarf and don't get all that much larger than the SD but with much calmer dispositions and tend not to be flighty. You can contact him at [email protected]

Good luck with your search,
Bill
 
Well - Garrett Hartle has excellent knowledge on Dwarf/SD retics. He also has waiting lists for his pure SD retics, that are usually at least a 6+ months wait. I know that because I have asked him, and got on the list for his pure Kalatoas last Dec. He will on have a few clutch of pure Kalatoas for 2019. But he also will likely have quite a bit of high percentage(50-87.5%) SD crosses from good bloodlines. Still even with those you will need to get on a waiting list.

Also Samson Pruitt of Slither, Inc. presently has a couple of 2018 F1 pure Kayuadi males. At least he did as of this past weekend. He does a lot of reptile shows in the Southeast. And maybe going to the next Repticon in Atlanta. He also has some high percentage Sd(Kalatoa) crosses (50-75%).
 
Just curious for an update

WILD BILL245 said:
I Am Interested In Getting A Super Dwarf Retic And Would Like To Know Where I Might Be Able One. I Never See Them Listed For Sale Anywhere.
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Wild Bill, how'd this turn out? Did you ever get a hold of Garrett or Samson?

I picked up a little lady a couple of months ago that is, according to the seller, one of Slither Inc's productions, and she is absolutely fantastic. She's not a pure SD by any means, but if she's an indication of his other animals, I would jump at the chance to purchase more.
 
thank you for all your replys and information you gave. i am going to the repticon reptile show in atlanta in april so i will check it out there to. two questions to all though. does an albino lavender sunfire retic keep it's pretty deep orange and white color when it gets older and is their much difference in temperment between males and females or is it between each one and how it's raised?
 
OH!!! i haven't bought one yet but plan to get one. i guess the dwarfs and super dwarfs are a lot more in price than the pretty morps regular size ones i looked out on line.
 
WILD BILL245 said:
i guess the dwarfs and super dwarfs are a lot more in price than the pretty morps regular size ones i looked out on line.
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Dwarf and SD does seem to be pretty hot right now. Plus, I think there's a sense of questioning the reputation of some vendors who claim to sell D or SD hybrids (with mainland), so the guys (and gals) who have really cemented themselves as honest players are in really high demand.

I think I paid about $100 more for mine, ostensibly 25% SD. I got her at a Repticon show and didn't pay the asking price, so consider that angle as well. Of course, you never know for sure how "dwarf" or "super dwarf" it really is, unless the seller/breeder has an outstanding reputation.
 
Generally speaking- you can expect to pay at least 50% more for a retic with 50% SD blood, than you will for a similar morph of pure mainland retic.

For example - if a pure mainland Albino, Tiger retic is sells for about $500. Then a 50% Kalatoa, Albino tiger retic should be at least $750.

And generally the greater the percentage of SD or dwarf blood is - the higher the price tag will be.
 
well all that makes since. i never paid the asking price at the repticon show. got a baby burmese python, hypo green, 30% dwarf for 160.00. thought that was a good price. hope to get a nice retic or i would like an albino granite burmese which i thought was very pretty. is there a difference in temperment between male and females or the individual snake.
 
In general with retics, there's not a big difference except when it comes to breeding season and males can get antsy, pushy and sometimes bitey.
 
Well in terms of temperament between males and females among dwarf/SD retics (or crosses). In my personal experience (I presently have 2 males & 2 females) - both sexes seem to be fairly calm, yet very curious, and active snakes, generally speaking.
They are almost never what could be considered to be defensive (hissy, & bity). Overall - all 4 of my SD crosses are a joy to own.

By comparison - I use to have a pair of pure Dwarf Burmese - which were the most defensive & ill tempered snakes I have ever own. They were the complete opposite of my SD retics.
 
i would love to hear from more retic owners and their experiences with them. samsom pruitt from slither inc, i saw on the repticon site will be at the atlanta show in april and i'll check him out. anyone has or had an albino lavender retic. from the pics they look real nice. i would like a nice looking morph with some dwarf or super dwarf in it and max out at 8 to 12 ft.
 
Your request for a max of 8-12 ft would pretty much have to be a high percentage super dwarf.

Our sd pair (75% kalatoa (SD) 12.5% jampea (dwarf)), the male is over 7' and female is 10'. Our 75% dwarf male is about 12' or so and 50% dwarf female is easily 16-18'. Each snake grows differently and size depends on a variety of factors, mostly genetics and food intake, I just wanted to give some examples to show that you're probably going to want to focus on high % SD.

Good luck in your search!
 
thank you for the info. since the males are smaller in size than females i think i better have my focus on a male and i kind of like the sunfire albino lavender retics. they are pretty and i know their not a dwarf but would you say as it got older and i limited the food intake( i don't mean starving it to death lol ) that i could keep it at a managable size?
 
I don't have enough experience to advise but in general stunting by lower feeding with snakes is only poor for the snake and they will generally reach max adult size over time regardless. just my $0.02
 
WILD BILL245 said:
Does an albino lavender sunfire retic keep it's pretty deep orange and white color when it gets older and is their much difference in temperament between males and females or is it between each one and how it's raised?
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Yes, combining albinos with other genes such as sunfire, tiger, and golden child (just to name a few), allows them maintain their dark yellow/orange and bright purple/lavender coloration into adulthood.

The purple albino tiger combo is my favorite!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVkqlGgOUUc&t=10s

The white albino tigers are also impressive!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh83Z9ZpnkA

I personally would NEVER purchase a single gene albino retic, as their coloration drastically fades as they approach adolescence and adulthood.

Also, I would not recommend a lavender retic as a pet, their colors are less impressive in comparison to their purple and white counterparts. However, when used in a breeding program, 2 lavenders will produce all 3 Clark albino phases.

Males tend to be more aggressive than females during breeding season, especially when housed within a near vicinity of other snakes.
 
Your request for a max of 8-12 ft would pretty much have to be a high percentage super dwarf.
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Not Necessarily. I have heard of even pure mainland females being in that size range - at until they are 8-10 years old. And I have heard of 50% super dwarf females that are roughly the same size a pure super females. In fact the feeding schedule, frequency and amount are equally as important as the retic's genetics, in helping to keep the retic at a modest size.

Prehistoric pets has plenty of videos on the subject. As they have healthy adult pure mainland females which are the size of dwarfs(9-12'). They also have 50% Kalatoa females which are the same size as pure Kalatoa females (about 7-8' long, and weigh about 6-8 lbs).

Like wise - the mother of my Purple Albino, Suntiger female(Topaz) was a pure mainland retic - which was about 7-8 years old(last spring), and about 11' long, when she laid the clutch Topaz came from. Topaz's father is a 50% Kalatoa male which is about 6-6.5' long.
 
My sizes were just examples based on my observations and what I've seen from other keepers. I know each snake is different.

edit to add -but I also think sizes are downplayed or smallest examples are shown in some instances (sometimes for sales) and people might have incorrect expectations.
 
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